Dirk Diggler Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 God bless the Danny... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/jeffri_chadiha/03/08/coles/index.html Many reasons why Coles, Redskins had messy divorce Posted: Tuesday March 8, 2005 11:56AM; Updated: Tuesday March 8, 2005 12:52PM It all will be over soon for Laveranues Coles. Once he passes a routine physical Wednesday, his trade from the Washington Redskins will be consummated and he'll officially be a New York Jets wide receiver again. Given how much we've heard about Coles' frustration this past season, there shouldn't be a more delighted player in the NFL. There's no question he lucked into the best opportunity he could find after his time in D.C. Coles will be reunited with his close friend, quarterback Chad Pennington, while playing in an offense that should be far more aggressive with new coordinator Mike Heimerdinger calling the plays. He'll play with a better supporting cast on a playoff-caliber team. He also gets to be happy again. That's the biggest boon for a player who described every week of last season as a "miserable" experience and added that the most important lesson he learned while in Washington was "trust nobody." If you want to know how badly Coles and the Redskins needed a divorce, consider this: Redskins owner Daniel Snyder threatened Coles when the receiver's refusal to accept the trade without a contract extension thwarted the deal last month. "He said that if I stayed in Washington, he would turn me into another Terry Glenn," Coles said. (Glenn, now with the Cowboys, missed most of the 2001 season with New England as his public feud with head coach Bill Belichick resulted in various fines, suspensions and ultimately Glenn's benching). "He said he would send a flat-screen television to my home because I'd be better off watching the games there. That was his way of saying I'd be sitting for the next couple years until they cut me." Snyder didn't return phone calls about that comment but it's easy to understand his irritation. He gave Coles a then franchise-record $13 million signing bonus two years ago. He expected Coles to be an integral part of the offense for many years. Now Snyder was watching the same player call his shots on the way out of town -- Coles eventually secured a reported $15 million in guaranteed money over the next three years while forcing the Redskins to take a huge salary cap hit -- and it stung. But Snyder wasn't the reason Coles wanted out of Washington. Joe Gibbs was. Coles never felt comfortable with the Hall of Fame head coach. He was wary of Gibbs as far back as training camp. Coles feared that the coach (who was traveling and couldn't be reached for comment) would favor a conservative, run-first offense featuring Clinton Portis -- and that's exactly what happened. Though Coles caught a career-high 90 passes last season, he averaged a career-low 10.6 yards per reception and scored only one touchdown (which Portis threw to him on a halfback-option pass). Coles never publicly aired his bitterness but he privately bristled about Gibbs' strategies: the coach's unwillingness to move the receiver around in the offense, the lack of downfield passing and the predictable nature of the system. He often commiserated with Rod Gardner, another Redskins receiver in search of a trade. "We'd shake our heads and wonder where we fit in every time we saw a new game plan," said Coles, who became a Pro Bowl receiver while playing in Steve Spurrier's pass-happy system a year earlier. "People say we're leaving now because we're selfish, but how are you supposed to be happy as a receiver when you go from a passing offense to a running offense? This wasn't what I signed up for." Coles' main complaint about Gibbs was the coach's inflexible nature. "I didn't feel respected as a player," Coles said. "I know everything changed [when Gibbs succeeded Spurrier] but when you feel like you're one of the best players at your position, you'd think you could talk to a coach about the play-calling. We didn't have that situation. He called the plays. We ran them. That's where things fell off with me. I realize it's a dictatorship but there's only so much you can take." When the season ended, Coles met twice with Gibbs in order to air grievances. Neither session led to any positive results. "We concluded that it was best to go our separate ways," Coles said. "I don't want to get into the details but he basically said he didn't trust me, and I said I didn't trust him." At that point, Coles wasn't sure where his career would go, but he was excited when the Jets aggressively pursued a trade. Coles was bitter when New York didn't try harder to retain him as a free agent two years ago so the Jets' recent interest convinced him that the team still believed in his talents. The team's lack of concern with Coles' broken right big toe has been welcome news as well. He sustained the injury in the third game of the 2003 season and the Redskins believed it hindered his explosiveness. They wanted Coles to undergo surgery after this season but he balked because doctors told him the operation should be seen only as a last option (it could be a career-threatening procedure if it's unsuccessful). Coles adds that his condition improved with the help of a cortisone shot prior to a game at Philadelphia last November. "From what I've been told, it's not a problem as long as I'm running and cutting fine," Coles said. "Until it gets to the point where I can't walk, I don't need surgery." The Jets won't comment on the trade until it's official, but they're clearly thrilled with Coles' return. He's a better receiver than Santana Moss, whom New York gave up in the deal, and he's more appreciative of a second chance with the team that drafted him. Coles also can't say enough good things about the Jets, including "the family atmosphere" fostered by head coach Herm Edwards. As for positive comments about the Redskins, Coles is working on that. He's already reconciled with Snyder and there's even been some progress made with Gibbs. "We came to the conclusion that if we met in the street, we could shake hands and be cordial," Coles said of Gibbs. "But that's about it." That acrimony might subside the longer Coles plays in New York. After all, he's landed in the best possible situation. The more he focuses on that, the better off he'll be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre The Giant Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/jeffri_chadiha/03/08/coles/index.html Irreconcilable differences Many reasons why Coles, Redskins had messy divorce It all will be over soon for Laveranues Coles. Once he passes a routine physical Wednesday, his trade from the Washington Redskins will be consummated and he'll officially be a New York Jets wide receiver again. Given how much we've heard about Coles' frustration this past season, there shouldn't be a more delighted player in the NFL. There's no question he lucked into the best opportunity he could find after his time in D.C. Coles will be reunited with his close friend, quarterback Chad Pennington, while playing in an offense that should be far more aggressive with new coordinator Mike Heimerdinger calling the plays. He'll play with a better supporting cast on a playoff-caliber team. He also gets to be happy again. That's the biggest boon for a player who described every week of last season as a "miserable" experience and added that the most important lesson he learned while in Washington was "trust nobody." If you want to know how badly Coles and the Redskins needed a divorce, consider this: Redskins owner Daniel Snyder threatened Coles when the receiver's refusal to accept the trade without a contract extension thwarted the deal last month. "He said that if I stayed in Washington, he would turn me into another Terry Glenn," Coles said. (Glenn, now with the Cowboys, missed most of the 2001 season with New England as his public feud with head coach Bill Belichick resulted in various fines, suspensions and ultimately Glenn's benching). "He said he would send a flat-screen television to my home because I'd be better off watching the games there. That was his way of saying I'd be sitting for the next couple years until they cut me." Snyder didn't return phone calls about that comment but it's easy to understand his irritation. He gave Coles a then franchise-record $13 million signing bonus two years ago. He expected Coles to be an integral part of the offense for many years. Now Snyder was watching the same player call his shots on the way out of town -- Coles eventually secured a reported $15 million in guaranteed money over the next three years while forcing the Redskins to take a huge salary cap hit -- and it stung. But Snyder wasn't the reason Coles wanted out of Washington. Joe Gibbs was. Coles never felt comfortable with the Hall of Fame head coach. He was wary of Gibbs as far back as training camp. Coles feared that the coach (who was traveling and couldn't be reached for comment) would favor a conservative, run-first offense featuring Clinton Portis -- and that's exactly what happened. Though Coles caught a career-high 90 passes last season, he averaged a career-low 10.6 yards per reception and scored only one touchdown (which Portis threw to him on a halfback-option pass). Coles never publicly aired his bitterness but he privately bristled about Gibbs' strategies: the coach's unwillingness to move the receiver around in the offense, the lack of downfield passing and the predictable nature of the system. He often commiserated with Rod Gardner, another Redskins receiver in search of a trade. "We'd shake our heads and wonder where we fit in every time we saw a new game plan," said Coles, who became a Pro Bowl receiver while playing in Steve Spurrier's pass-happy system a year earlier. "People say we're leaving now because we're selfish, but how are you supposed to be happy as a receiver when you go from a passing offense to a running offense? This wasn't what I signed up for." Coles' main complaint about Gibbs was the coach's inflexible nature. "I didn't feel respected as a player," Coles said. "I know everything changed [when Gibbs succeeded Spurrier] but when you feel like you're one of the best players at your position, you'd think you could talk to a coach about the play-calling. We didn't have that situation. He called the plays. We ran them. That's where things fell off with me. I realize it's a dictatorship but there's only so much you can take." When the season ended, Coles met twice with Gibbs in order to air grievances. Neither session led to any positive results. "We concluded that it was best to go our separate ways," Coles said. "I don't want to get into the details but he basically said he didn't trust me, and I said I didn't trust him." At that point, Coles wasn't sure where his career would go, but he was excited when the Jets aggressively pursued a trade. Coles was bitter when New York didn't try harder to retain him as a free agent two years ago so the Jets' recent interest convinced him that the team still believed in his talents. The team's lack of concern with Coles' broken right big toe has been welcome news as well. He sustained the injury in the third game of the 2003 season and the Redskins believed it hindered his explosiveness. They wanted Coles to undergo surgery after this season but he balked because doctors told him the operation should be seen only as a last option (it could be a career-threatening procedure if it's unsuccessful). Coles adds that his condition improved with the help of a cortisone shot prior to a game at Philadelphia last November. "From what I've been told, it's not a problem as long as I'm running and cutting fine," Coles said. "Until it gets to the point where I can't walk, I don't need surgery." The Jets won't comment on the trade until it's official, but they're clearly thrilled with Coles' return. He's a better receiver than Santana Moss, whom New York gave up in the deal, and he's more appreciative of a second chance with the team that drafted him. Coles also can't say enough good things about the Jets, including "the family atmosphere" fostered by head coach Herm Edwards. As for positive comments about the Redskins, Coles is working on that. He's already reconciled with Snyder and there's even been some progress made with Gibbs. "We came to the conclusion that if we met in the street, we could shake hands and be cordial," Coles said of Gibbs. "But that's about it." That acrimony might subside the longer Coles plays in New York. After all, he's landed in the best possible situation. The more he focuses on that, the better off he'll be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyZeb Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 The more I read, the more I hate him. Who doesn't like the trade now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Gibbs has 3 Superbowl rings Coles has a rap sheet. nice and Snyder was right.....his only mistake was making the trade and taking that hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Originally posted by Dirk Diggler That's the biggest boon for a player who described every week of last season as a "miserable" experience and added that the most important lesson he learned while in Washington was "trust nobody." "People say we're leaving now because we're selfish, but how are you supposed to be happy as a receiver when you go from a passing offense to a running offense? This wasn't what I signed up for." Those 2 quotes really irritate me. Too bad LC you came here and signed on the dotted line 13 million. Thats more then enough respect that you needed to get here. To trust nobody? That is absolutley absurd. If anything based on anecdotes of hall of famers and SUPER BOWL winners, Gibbs is the most trustworthy and honest coach you will find. This is crock. I am glad he is gone for whatever price we had to pay. I wish Snyder did make him a Terry Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 I don't like the trade now. we still got ripped off by Coles AND the Jets. Sending him home to watch...and his NFL rep to fade would of made me feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNatsFan Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Yeah, that Gibbs guy, he just doesn't get along with people very well. It must him. He's got a long history of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 I actually enjoyed this. It proved Coles as a selfish ignorant fool. He acts as though he such a big superstar he should get to call plays from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfriedm Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Coles will be reunited with his close friend, quarterback Chad Pennington, while playing in an offense that should be far more aggressive with new coordinator Mike Heimerdinger calling the plays. He'll play with a better supporting cast on a playoff-caliber team. :laugh: Oh my God that is so funny I think I'm going to :puke: EDIT: I can't even read this article anymore after that absolute idiotic statement. All I have to say about this :finger: and no against who ever first posted this but :sucks: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Originally posted by Bufford I don't like the trade now. we still got ripped off by Coles AND the Jets. Sending him home to watch...and his NFL rep to fade would of made me feel better. It probably would have made me feel better also, to have sit at home and rot, and I am not a big fan of what we got, but really its better then just having this issue linger. I am glad we got something rather then releasing him. I am glad we took this hit now, rather then next offseason. We are keeping a good chunk of this team together. Now is one of the best times to weed out those who do not want to be part of this program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 ahh a one sided, Coles version only ***** fest how orginal :jerk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek1973 Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Can you believe this POS Coles? hey LC. Got news for you pal. The skins have a much better chance of reaching the SB than the Jets and reason for that is Gibbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Dog Night Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 "He said he would send a flat-screen television to my home because I'd be better off watching the games there. As much I dislike Snyder, and I do understand that he can be a total A-hole sometimes, I find it hard to believe that Snyder actually said that. From the way this sounds, there was no way he could have stayed here. I just wish the severence package didn't cost us 9 million dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGS_DADDY Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 "He said that if I stayed in Washington, he would turn me into another Terry Glenn," Coles said. (Glenn, now with the Cowboys, missed most of the 2001 season with New England as his public feud with head coach Bill Belichick resulted in various fines, suspensions and ultimately Glenn's benching). "He said he would send a flat-screen television to my home because I'd be better off watching the games there. That was his way of saying I'd be sitting for the next couple years until they cut me." :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlobberKnockinFootball Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 "I didn't sign up for that" If you didn't sign up for that then why don't you give the rest of the money back that you didn't sign up for and shut your damn pie hole!! I'll trust a man who is a HOF'er over some ******* that can't stay out of trouble with either his mouth or his actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXREDSKINS44 Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Originally posted by Andre The Giant "He said he would send a flat-screen television to my home because I'd be better off watching the games there. That was his way of saying I'd be sitting for the next couple years until they cut me." Hey Danny Boy you can send that flat screen my wife!!!:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappaluvacee Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 "that's not what I signed up for"...We know what you signed up for: the $$$ so now that you got the $$$ shut the F up and earn your check.....Sissy azz athlete. He should have been sent to Iraq to search cars for explosives, roadside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Coles was better off keeping his mouth shut. What an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 I'd like to know what Cooke would have said in a situation like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 If you want to know how badly Coles and the Redskins needed a divorce, consider this: Redskins owner Daniel Snyder threatened Coles when the receiver's refusal to accept the trade without a contract extension thwarted the deal last month. "He said that if I stayed in Washington, he would turn me into another Terry Glenn," Coles said. (Glenn, now with the Cowboys, missed most of the 2001 season with New England as his public feud with head coach Bill Belichick resulted in various fines, suspensions and ultimately Glenn's benching). "He said he would send a flat-screen television to my home because I'd be better off watching the games there. That was his way of saying I'd be sitting for the next couple years until they cut me." LOL! :laugh: Atta boy, Danny....I like knowing that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNut73 Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 "He said he would send a flat-screen television to my home because I'd be better off watching the games there. That was his way of saying I'd be sitting for the next couple years until they cut me." I like it...way to go Dan... Coles sounds like an arrogant prick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlobberKnockinFootball Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 I think I might head up to a Jets game this year and sit in the lower level by the bench and ride his ass the hole time. I'll go buy a $5 Redskins Coles jersey so he knows exactly why I'm getting on his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soljaofjesus Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 thats ok coles.. cuz when we go places you will continue to shake ur head an wonder " I though I could fit in this new "let him rip" gameplan" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Dog Night Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Originally posted by bhayesp I'd like to know what Cooke would have said in a situation like this. So would I. I'm guessing Cooke never signs Coles in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sith lord Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 He only averaged 10 yds per catch because he's not fast enough anymore to get down field.Actually,I like this trade.Moss had almost as many yards with half the catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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