[[ghost]] Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 How would you guys go in the first round? trade gardner and our first for an earlier first, and a 5th/6th pick up mike williams or elgin baylor stay home, maybe move down for extra picks, and pick up whatever DE is left stay pat and get pollack, cody, or that kiwanaku (sp?) guy move up and get Lienart or Rodgers (wow, you guys must really hate our QBs) Get Antrelle Rolle (since we, god forbid, might lose Smoot) trade down plenty, get a lot of picks, then get quality DEs and o-linemen me= either stay pat and get cody or pollack, or get mike williams, but im worried if he's still teh same. that man is just beast, but DE is a really big need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetto-smoove Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I wouldnt mind having Mike Williams line up next to Coles, because its clear in 4 years Gardner cant get open. We need a DE also, so it all depends on where we are drafting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlobberKnockinFootball Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Dude, you're not going to get a high first rounder for Gardner. You'll be lucky to get a 3rd. At the rate we're going we will be in the top 5 picking again. So I guess we will have to go with the best player available again. Can't loose out on talent when you're up that high. But I'd say we either take the best DE or best WR available. I think top 5 is too high for a guard. But not for a LT. It all depends on what we do with Samuels who I'll take. But i'm shooting for a DE if there is one rated pretty high. As well as O-line. I don't think we are going to be high enough to take a Mike Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter's Better Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Isn't Gardner's contract up after this year? So he and smoot are free agents next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadedup_skin4lifer Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ He is a dominator... Keep whatever pick we get and draft Barron!!!...and trade Samuels/Gardner for plenty of picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 We find the best DE in the draft or trade our soon-to-be top-five pick down to get a DE and some help on the OL. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by Dexter's Better Isn't Gardner's contract up after this year? So he and smoot are free agents next year? No, just Smoot. Gardner still has one year on his rookie contract. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLiNT0N P0RTiS Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by ghetto-smoove I wouldnt mind having Mike Williams line up next to Coles, because its clear in 4 years Gardner cant get open. We need a DE also, so it all depends on where we are drafting Oh yeah! Mike Williams would be awesome. I would love to have him on this team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlobberKnockinFootball Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I think Gardner has one more year... but to be sure just check it out on this site. There is a link somewhere on our players contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMac Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 With our record right now, we already are looking at a high 1st rd pick. Dallas 3-7 - they beat us Cleveland - 3-7 - They beat us Carolina - 3-7 Oakland 3-7 KC - 3-6 Miami and S.F. both at 1-9. The way we are playing we could end up with the #3 pick in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter's Better Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Anyone have a link to our current roster / salary chart? I know its on this board somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadedup_skin4lifer Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 MIKE WILLIAMS!!!! Braylon Edwards, Mark Clayton, and Chris Henry all have better upsides than Mikey...He is tall which is a plus...but the way he dominated the lil 175 llb DBs wont happen in the NFL...Especially after damn near 2 years off... Plus if u think Rod Gardner and Keyshawn are slow...wait until this guy gets on the field ... :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saragoth Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by [[ghost]] How would you guys go in the first round? trade gardner and our first for an earlier first, and a 5th/6th pick up mike williams or elgin baylor stay home, maybe move down for extra picks, and pick up whatever DE is left stay pat and get pollack, cody, or that kiwanaku (sp?) guy move up and get Lienart or Rodgers (wow, you guys must really hate our QBs) Get Antrelle Rolle (since we, god forbid, might lose Smoot) trade down plenty, get a lot of picks, then get quality DEs and o-linemen me= either stay pat and get cody or pollack, or get mike williams, but im worried if he's still teh same. that man is just beast, but DE is a really big need Wouldn't trade up. because we'll prolly get a high pick anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by SlobberKnockinFootball Dude, you're not going to get a high first rounder for Gardner. You'll be lucky to get a 3rd. At the rate we're going we will be in the top 5 picking again. So I guess we will have to go with the best player available again. Can't loose out on talent when you're up that high. But I'd say we either take the best DE or best WR available. I think top 5 is too high for a guard. But not for a LT. It all depends on what we do with Samuels who I'll take. But i'm shooting for a DE if there is one rated pretty high. As well as O-line. I don't think we are going to be high enough to take a Mike Williams. I agree with you for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted November 22, 2004 Author Share Posted November 22, 2004 i really like williams. isn't their a single, tall, fast, wide out this year? i say we go with widout first, then DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 ghost Williams is NOT fast. Braylon Edwards isn't like Coles, but he's tall and he goes up and gets passes and basically willed the Wolverines to a few victories this season. They leaned on him to make comebacks. He's a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikmans Killer No.56 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I don't get why everyone is saying WR. Coles, D-Mac, Jacobs, Thrash (assuming 70-30) is gone next year. LINE HELP!! OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 DE has to be priority #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNorth Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 fact is this years draft lacks true blue chip talent, so I think its best to trade down and get additional picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfujskins Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I hate to say this, but Mike Williams is going to Dallas:doh: But anyways, I think we need to stick with our pick and get the best DE available, whether that be Kiwanuka or whatever. Its too bad we dont have a 2nd, cause that would be perfect for a center. The DE is the priority, BUT there is just something about using 2 high first round picks 2 years in a row on Defense, especially when our offense is the one struggling, that kinda make me a little sick:puke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I would go with the WR from Mich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Can I ask why everyone seems to want a Wideout? We don't need one, we have depth at the position... We need line help... Need... Necessity. Edwards, as awesome as he is, drops alot of passes... He's one of my favorite college players, but come on... There is no WR good enough for us to take over DE, DT or OT, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by KDawg Can I ask why everyone seems to want a Wideout? We don't need one, we have depth at the position... We need line help... Need... Necessity. Edwards, as awesome as he is, drops alot of passes... He's one of my favorite college players, but come on... There is no WR good enough for us to take over DE, DT or OT, period. Don't get it twisted, I'm just saying he's a better overall prospect than Williams, not that we should ignore the lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 What we do in FA will dictate what we will do in the draft. Given the number of quality DEs that will be avaliable in FA, we should go after one and develop the young talent we have. The offensive line needs more help then any. I've seen rumors that Steve Hutchison of Seattle will be a FA. That would be a huge addition at LG. Sameuls should be replaced, Brunell should retire, and Gardner should be traded for the highest pick we can get: which will probably be a third or even a fourth rounder given his play and inability to get open. The Wr class in the draft is expected to be deep this year. I believe that we should first take the best LT avaliable with our first pick. Given where this stud would be determines whether or not we should trade down and get a center as well. I have faith that McCants, Jacobs, and Coles(once healthy) will make a great tandem. McCants and Jacobs will get there chance to prove themselves this year, but the priority should be rebuilding the offensive line. False starts, holdings, and not getting holes open for Portis killed us in the philly game. If the o-line wasn't so bad we would've won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by Renegade7 If the o-line wasn't so bad we would've won. Not only do I disagree, I disagree whole heartedly. We CANNOT win games when we commit dumb penalties, and when the refs seem to have an agenda. Period. We didn't execute against Philly. We're a better team than I saw on the field yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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