txkid Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Champ for CP is looking more like a bad trade for the Skins, but two other offseason trades were worse, and Parcells and Jerrah got the best of both. 1. Galloway for Meshawn - Galloway will miss several weeks. Had he not get hurt he scores a TD and the Bucs might have beaten the Skins last week. Now the Bucs offense is sputtering. Meshawn is the go to guy for the pokes. 2. Draft pick trade Cowboys and Bills - The Bills take JP Losman with the Cowboys pick. He gets hurt and probably won't be a factor at all this season. The Bills are 0-2 and if they continue to lose close games and have a 4-12 season so they will deliver the Cowboys an early first round pick next year, and Maurice Clarett might have a star on his helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 After today, NOT trading Heath Ramsey when he was whining after Brunell was signed could count as one of the worst offseason non-trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pr11fan Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 How about 2 firsts for Galloway. Remind me again how great Denver made out in the deal. Griffin had under 3 ypc for Denver and they have the same record we do. Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaveli Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Originally posted by hail2skins After today, NOT trading Heath Ramsey when he was whining after Brunell was signed could count as one of the worst offseason non-trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenmdixon Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Why evaluate trades that do not involve season-ending injuries to a traded player? I would think it's way too early to evaluate a trade...it's only been two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Originally posted by hail2skins After today, NOT trading Heath Ramsey when he was whining after Brunell was signed could count as one of the worst offseason non-trades. Yeah and that 3rd round pick for Brunell is looking real genius too, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteve Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Oh my FREAKING goodness!! Giving up on Clinton Portis after two games. NO WONDER opposition fans call us dumb homers.:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsLegacy44 Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 This makes no sense. How can you evaluate a trade this early in the season? How is trading someone that consistently disrupted your team chemistry, and subsequently benched for most of the season, a bad move???? And I really hope Meshawn's teamcanceritis spreads in that dallas locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broohaha Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Originally posted by steveskins Oh my FREAKING goodness!! Giving up on Clinton Portis after two games. NO WONDER opposition fans call us dumb homers.:doh: pretty sure the OP is a cowpoke fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six4g Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 So, how many of you were on the CP wagon last week? Talk about fickle fans.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Champ for CP is looking more like a bad trade for the Skins... Explain, please... Champ gave up, at the very least, two catches to Jimmy Smith today and dropped a pass when they put him on offense (the exact reason he never went on offence anymore here). Hell, at least CP put some points on the board today and our CB's aren't exactly getting lit up like some people thought they would once Champ departed. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txkid Posted September 20, 2004 Author Share Posted September 20, 2004 I mentioned that the other two trades were worse. I just feel that the Skins gave up too much for CP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pr11fan Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Txkid, Griffin blew the game for Denver today and Champ got beat for 2 catches, and we're both 1-1. How is it a bad trade. And how is Dallas giving 2 #1's for galloway not as bad as the one's you mentioned. Homer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 ok, Coles had 9 receptions for 100 yards, Tim Carter had 3 for 63, and Toomer had 6 for 54, Gardner had 3 for 66 ( and dont use an argument that he just got one big reception, Carter got that 38 yarder as well). This shows our defense did pretty well for the most part. Now Portis, he had 2 receptions, one for a td, plus he got more rushing yards than Barber did. Tell me why we are giving up on our team already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien 91 Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Maurice Clarett does not scare me. Put him in a dallas uni. and watch Lavar take his head off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 This thread makes me sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broohaha Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 i wish the geniuses that started these dumb "how's that trade looking NOW" threads would shut the hell up and realize that CHAMP WAS NOT GOING TO RE-SIGN WITH THE REDSKINS. the only apt way to evaluate the trade is to compare it against other places the skins could have traded chump. morons.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RW31 Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Ill cry if we use our 1st on clarrett because it will likely mean JJ is a bust...plus, I really, really like the top of the DT class this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Originally posted by txkid I mentioned that the other two trades were worse. I just feel that the Skins gave up too much for CP. Don't worry about us. Feel bad because Jerrah and Tuna passed on the best backs in the draft for an undersized kick return specialist. Feel bad because Jerrah and Tuna didn't bother to sign a conerback in the offseason and you have a 4th stringer starting opposite Newman and a tomato can at one saftey spot. Feel bad because Wiley won't do anything at the defensive end position this year, and he was your biggest signing. Feel bad because no one wants Jerrah to build a new stadium in their backyard at taxpayer expense. Feel REALLY bad that you are one QB injury from being WAY below .500 at the end of the season. But don't feel bad for us. We'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostRider Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Originally posted by Broohaha i wish the geniuses that started these dumb "how's that trade looking NOW" threads would shut the hell up and realize that CHAMP WAS NOT GOING TO RE-SIGN WITH THE REDSKINS. the only apt way to evaluate the trade is to compare it against other places the skins could have traded chump. morons.... Wow someone using common sense. It's kind of pathetic how everyone thinks we just gave up Champ when he wasn't willing to play here. Wake up people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 I really don't understand how we are supposed to evaluate these trades considering 1. JP Losman wasn't necessarily supposed to make an impact this year. 2. Galloway is injured. This is kind of a shortsighted question...but if I had to vote, Galloway for Keyshawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redsk58417 Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Ok.....a little disapointed in the loss today? Understandable. As to "The trade." Champ wanted out of Washington, he wasn't coming back. The trade was Champ for Portis and a 2nd round pick which turned out to be RB Tatum Bell. Not Griffin. Why are we mentioning Griffin's name when talking "The Trade?" Let's all "Give it a rest" or are we going to harp on it every game this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 I must admit though, I am getting excited at the potential of Buffalo's first rounder. It only gets tougher for them. After a bye, they have New England. Still have the Jets twice, Seattle, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Baltimore and then New England again (to name a few). As each week passes, it looks more and more like a top 10 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbs Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Originally posted by txkid 2. Draft pick trade Cowboys and Bills - The Bills take JP Losman with the Cowboys pick. He gets hurt and probably won't be a factor at all this season. The Bills are 0-2 and if they continue to lose close games and have a 4-12 season so they will deliver the Cowboys an early first round pick next year, and Maurice Clarett might have a star on his helmet. [/b] Never happen. Parcells invested a 2nd on Julius Jones and he'll give him at least two years [1st year is learning] before moving on from him. Besides Parcells really likes Rashad Lee who is a free agent RB who they signed last year. Dallas won't go RB until at least round 5. Looking at that team I wouldn't be suprised to see Dallas go some combonation of DE, CB, or LB with their 2 first round picks. If the Bills stink it up to high heaven and Dallas is there with a top 5 pick they'll trade down stockpile another 2nd and or 3rd, and at about 8th-10th select either CB's Antrel Rolle or 6'3 FSU CB CB Antonio Cromartie. Put either of those guys opposite Newman and it'd be almost unfair how good they'd be in the secondary. Then at around 19 Parcells would go for some pressure off the edge and look at Boston College's 6'8 DE Mathia Kiwanuka or LSU's Marcus Spears. Or Dallas go sure up DE in free agency and go for a DT's like Anttaj Hawthorne [Wisconsin] and Rodrique Wright [Texas - though I doubt he drops into the middle of the 1st round] or Parcells could look to get bigger at LB and select Derrick Johnson [Texas]. Having gotten bigger and more physical on his side of the football Parcells can then hit the offense with his stockpiled 2nd and 3rd round picks. Anyway you look at it Dallas will make a killing off the Buffalo trade. That's why smart GM's never trade 1st round picks unless they're getting a player of unquestioned value, or they know they'll be a SB caliber team and the pick will really be a high 2nd. Even then in today's NFL one never knows how a season will unfold. The Bills could realistically be looking at a 4/5 win season. If they continue to lose with Bledsoe and are at 1/2 wins when Losman comes off the injury list they just might figure that they should fast forward Losman's development. In that case they'd be lucky to win 3 more games the rest of the year thus giving them a 4/5 win season and Dallas a top 6 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsNation Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Originally posted by txkid Champ for CP is looking more like a bad trade for the Skins, but two other offseason trades were worse, and Parcells and Jerrah got the best of both. 1. Galloway for Meshawn - Galloway will miss several weeks. Had he not get hurt he scores a TD and the Bucs might have beaten the Skins last week. Now the Bucs offense is sputtering. Meshawn is the go to guy for the pokes. 2. Draft pick trade Cowboys and Bills - The Bills take JP Losman with the Cowboys pick. He gets hurt and probably won't be a factor at all this season. The Bills are 0-2 and if they continue to lose close games and have a 4-12 season so they will deliver the Cowboys an early first round pick next year, and Maurice Clarett might have a star on his helmet. Ok adolescent Dallas fan. So 2 fumbles makes the trade bad! Cut the jokes, judging any trade after 2 weeks is ridiculous. How many TD's has Champ scored? How many fumbles does Quentin Griffin have? Whats Tatum Bell's status? Your a complete moron. Tatum Bell is hurt. Champ hasnt scored a single TD. Griffin has 2 fumbles just like CP. Griffin has less total yards offense then CP. Both teams are 1-1. Hmmm. Next time you want to make a ridiculous homeristic Cowboy fan comment just log onto the Cowboyzone fan board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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