Awesome Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 this year it seems that everyone is cap strapped. that said, and the abundance of seemingly available, cheap QB's, where does Bledsoe fit in? will anyone pay for him, or does he ride the pine for another year in NE. i was sure that he would be the biggest FA topic this offseason, but i haven't heard a peep about what he's been doing or if he's met with any clubs. i know it's still early in FA, but does anyone have a good, credible bead on where they think Bledsoe will end up and what it's gonna take to sign him. any chance he's in DC 2002? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 none. there is no cap space for Bledsoe and he is showing no signs of recognizing that teams are not going to give him the outlines of his original deal with NE, he is going to have to accept less.<br /><br />the Patriots aren't going to get more than a #2 for Bledsoe. they might get a late first if he agrees to restructure to an acceptable amount for 2002.<br /><br />but two #1 picks? you have to be kidding.<br /><br />the guy is 31 and is immobile as hell. He has had the tar beaten out of him playing behind a poor line in NE the past few years.<br /><br />He is an old 31. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Posted March 18, 2002 Author Share Posted March 18, 2002 agreed, he is an old 31. i wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole,unless it was for cheap, i don't think i would even give up a 2nd rounder for him. just wanted to see what others thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 I just read that his agent is talking to the Broncos this weekend at the owner's meeting, to try and drum up some action.<br /><br />But his value has dropped. The Pats might be able to get two #2's, or a #2 and #4 draft pick spread over a couple years. Shanahan said he would consider Bledsoe, but I dont think anything will happen until June. Bledsoe will probably have to restructure that $100 Mil deal NE gave him. I think his presense on the pines will be devisive this year, so I think NE has to move him before the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fuji869 Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 If no one will give up what the Patriots want in a trade for Bledsoe will they end up cutting him? <br /><br />Brady will be getting the big money in 2002 and with what he will probably be paid and with Bledsoe's $100 Million + contract New England will not be able to afford two Big $$$ QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 The Bengals are a perfect fit for Bledsoe on so many levels. They have the cap room and the picks to do it.<br /><br />The Bengals have a lot of talented players on both sides of the ball who are about the enter their prime. If the Bengals want to move forward, they need a franchise QB whom the players believe it to take them to the next level.<br /><br />Bledsoe is the perfect candidate and solid mentor for Akili Smith. But I don't own the Bengals so... <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="smile.gif" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hailredskinscom Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 NOPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daustin Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 makes sense to me DieHard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 The guy is still coming off a major internal injury still is immobile and our O line wont be the great wall of China either so we will need a guy back there with decent mobility.<br /><br />I'm just happy we didnt have the cap room for Danny to play sign a name this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 I would think thta SOMEBODY will give up a 2nd rounder for him, but it all comes down to the benjamins! <img border="0" alt="[cool]" title="" src="graemlins/cool.gif" /> <br /><br />We'd be stupid to not pick him up for that.<br /><br />Men, the center of gravity for any NFL team is the QB - PERIOD, especially a Steve Spurrier Offense. Haven't WE seen that first hand? Who here thinks we would have gone 0-5 or not made the playoffs if we had picked up Dilfer and made him the man from the git go and dumped George?<br /><br />Teams with marginal QBs are marginal teams - PERIOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 You are right about that DieHard, except the Bungles hardly ever do what is right. Those cheap skates wont want to pay Bledsoe what his contract calls for. Does Cory Dillon ring a bell? They eventually signed him, but it got ugly for awhile.<br /><br />The Patriots cant afford to cut Bledsoe either, because of the monster cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 It's amazing how quickly this board can whip itself up into an anti-player frenzy.<br /><br />Bledsoe is a three time pro-bowler who has been significantly injured for one half of one season in his entire career. <br /><br />I don't think he's worth two #1s either, but if the Pats only wanted one #2 for him we'd be fools not to consider it. I don't know if anyone esle has noticed, but we have a huge gaping hole at QB right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 Why would someone pay (in this case, with draft choices) for somebody they can get for free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by fish:<br /><strong>Who here thinks we would have gone 0-5 or not made the playoffs if we had picked up Dilfer and made him the man from the git go and dumped George?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I do. Our defense was a seive and just as responsible for those lopsided losses as our offense. And while a more efficient QB may have narrowed the gap slightly... it wasn't until game 6 when ALL phases of the Skins game finally started to click.<br /><br />We didn't have a running game, we didn't have a passing game, we didn't have a defense, the playcalling was horrendous and the players were stirring up a mutiny. <br /><br />Would Dilfer really had made a difference? Nah. There's plenty of blame to go around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 As of right now, any decisions on Bledsoe's trade is strictly up to the Patriots. Having signed that rather huge deal last year I believe that it's the organization that is shopping him around. I think Bledsoe's only input into that is "trade me or else". Or else what? <br /><br />Currently, if memory serves, the first 3 years of his contract gurantee him something like 5.5m the first year and 5m the next two. The Patriots are rumored to want something like 1-2 first round draft picks for him as well. Depending on who is doing the reporting.<br /><br />I thought I saw a report on ESPN that stated the Pats were considering coming down in their demands. Something like a 2nd round pick. The real problem is the money. I don't know if it is allowed, but I wonder if a team agrees to a trade, would it be possible to have Bledsoe do a complete re-structure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSkin Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 Dilfer probably wouldn't have made much of a difference in the first five games, but he would've gotten us to the playoffs. Tony Banks (and maybe Jimmy Raye) clearly kept us out last year. If we had a QB that could actually play the quarterback position, we would've been at least 9-7, probably better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baralufficus Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by inmate running the asylum:<br /><strong>I just read that his agent is talking to the Broncos this weekend at the owner's meeting, to try and drum up some action.<br /><br />But his value has dropped. The Pats might be able to get two #2's, or a #2 and #4 draft pick spread over a couple years. Shanahan said he would consider Bledsoe, but I dont think anything will happen until June. Bledsoe will probably have to restructure that $100 Mil deal NE gave him. I think his presense on the pines will be devisive this year, so I think NE has to move him before the season starts.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">that is like the 3rd time i heard that Denver is looking into QB's ...what about Greese ?.....what are their plans for him ....he would look great in a Skins uniform .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 I wouldn't say anti player.<br /><br />I've never been on the Bledsoe band wagon especially for the money he thinks he deserves.<br /><br />Now if it was a Brunell or Favre I'd say do the deal ASAP but immobile strong armed QBs are like the hightop fades of Kid n Play or bellbottoms played out.<br /><br />You can try to bring back the classic but sooner or later you'll remember why they went out of style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 I don't think anyone is on the Bledsoe bandwagon right now. I'm probably his biggest fan around here and I wouldn't give up two firsts for him either.<br /><br />What I don't get is this righteous indignation about the guy, as if its some sort of blasphmey to get a proven QB for more than 2 mil a year. I think Heath, Gus and Brad have made us gun-shy. Well, get over it. This is the NFL. You SHOULD be paying more for your QB than for any other position. You have to be willing to take a risk to get a proven player at that spot. <br /><br />Look at the SB winners since we won it in 91. Aikman, Aikman, Young, Aikman, Favre, Elway, Elway, Warner, Dilfer, and Brady. Dilfer was the only average player of the lot and he had the best defense in 15 years to back him up. <br /><br />Blake is a stop-gap. Sorry, but he is. He's 30 years old and other than some ok stats he's never proven he can take a team anywhere. Bledsoe, that fiend, tha money-grubbing brittle no talent hack, has taken some pretty average teams to the playoffs, and even made it to the Superbowl. He's a LOT closer to the sort of QB we need around here, and if he's available, we'd be fools not to try and get him. Same goes for Brunell (although he's never taken a team as far as Bledsoe despite being around longer), but you all don't seem to hate that guy, so I won't waste any time on him.<br /> <br /> <small>[ March 18, 2002, 05:07 PM: Message edited by: Henry ]</small> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 The only way he can get traded is if he re-works his contract BEFORE he gets traded. That would make him much more attractive, and might even make the asking price rise from the Patriots. I'd take him if he worked out a new deal for about 2 million a year, but now that we could have Blake....I take that back. <img border="0" alt="[dunce]" title="" src="graemlins/dunce.gif" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsyra Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 I think Dilfer would have made a difference in our season last year. Because he is a great team leader and he has proven that he can win. <br />I would much rather have Bledsoe than Blake, because I think Drew is a more accurate passer,and I also think he has proven that he will play for the teams interest and not for himself. Time will tell who we get and then we must work with what we have, I sure hope SS can do what he says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSkin Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 I would take Bledsoe over Blake if Bledsoe was a free agent at Blake's price. The thing is, he's still under contract and he's under a huge one at that. No question what the better choice is here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 Ah Henry, you have saved me from going on another rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 Saved you? <br /><br />I am on the record as saying that we would be a better team and a successful team if Bledsoe were a Redskin.<br /><br />If your going to spend the money, you put it at QB. <br /><br />Henry, your statement about being gun shy couldn't be more accurate. This is what I am referring to lately as Norvits. The fact that we remember what we had with Gibbs and what we got from Norv is making for some pretty "I would settle for that guy" attitudes.<br /><br />Let me put here a quote from The Sporting News about Bledsoe coming into this season:<br /><br />"Some fans may not like it, but Bledsoe is the Pats QB of the future. His $103 million contract extension assures he'll be at the helm for at least three more years and probably for four more after that.<br /><br />Last Season was another exercise in frustration for Bledsoe, who had trouble adjusting to yet another offensive scheme while playing behind the worst line in the league. He threw 17 TDs, his lowest since 1995, and was sacked a bone-crunching 45 times. Worst of all, Bledsoe appeared to lose some of his big-play ability. Four times last year (99) Bledsoe had the ball at the end of the game and couldn't do anything with it. The offense went 0-4 on wins or ties.<br /><br />Bledsoe's stregnths are many. He is the toughest QB in the league this side of the Packers' Brett Favre. Under Weis and QB coach Dick Rehbein, he has improved what long has been considered the weak parts of his game: footwork, mobility and ballhandling. He is young (born 2-14-72, that makes him 30), he is huge at 6-5, 240lbs and he is blessed with a rocket arm.<br /><br />Yet despite all he has done, Bledsoe can not make up for the deficiencies around him. He is a great QB at times but rarely a great playmaker. If the Pats ever hope to get their money's worth, they have to surround him with better talent."<br /><br />I would say that Davis, Samuels and Jansen alone would allow Bledsoe to really thrive in a Spurrier Offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 Whoops. This isn't Tailgate is it ? Sorry. Henry, well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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