Tarhog Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Originally posted by John Weathers If we dont keep him what will the other players think? That no one player is indispensable? That if you want obscene money, you better play obscenely well? and most importantly.... More money for ME! I don't care what 'the players' think. We've had enough spouting off from Smith, Jansen, and others as to what they 'think' this year. The organization should do what it deems best for the long-term interest of the Redskins, the players should trust their judgement, and everybody should keep their yaps shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 One of our leaders????? Of what???? We suck. And he's turned down the 16 mill SB we offered and the 50 plus million contract. He's not even worth that. You need to take a quick lesson in how the salary cap works and how signing Champ will prevent us from signing Dline help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Master Jay Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Bruce was too old when he came but Jansen deserved his money that is what the game has become. If our owner wouldn't give his money away so easily our players wouldn't want so much of it. We need to keep Bailey because he is one of our best players and one of our leaders. We dont even have a player that has been on the team longer then him or Jansen. Very soon we wont know whose on the team because it will change every year that is why our ship has sunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 As a very intelligent person once said... "We lost with you, we can lose without you." Does anyone give a damn what Champ THINKS he deserves based on large contracts he sees other players get? Almost every single one of those contracts turned out to be a HUGE waste of money. The players are inherently selfish 99.95% of the time. They will claim they want to win, but will do nothing to sign reasonable contracts that allow organizations to construct talented, balanced rosters. If he thinks he deserves that much money, then fine, let him find it... elsewhere. Two interceptions and 8 passes defensed this year. Yeah, those numbers certainly deserve a 15 million dollar signing bonus. I'd trade champ for that rookie in Chicago straight up right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Do you even understand what the cap is? I'd love to keep Bailey, but we cant afford to re-sign him AND sign the Dline help we DESPERATELY need. You understand that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_33 Posted December 23, 2003 Author Share Posted December 23, 2003 I got this link from my friend,but I don't believe this is the correct one.... He has sources that work for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution... But this is what he sent me... http://www.ajc.com/falcons/content/sports/falcons/1203/16quest.html I'm still looking for the actual source,so maybe someone here can find it as well.... I do know that this was an article and NOT... by ear.... So bare with me.... :shot: In his recent link he added that the guys that were involved in this "trade talk" were.... Falcons interested in 1)R.Gardner 2)C.Bailey (ufa) 3)I.Ohalete (rfa) 4)and possibly D.Dockery Why they would tip their hand...I have no idea?But I'm just relaying the source.... The Redskins are interested in 1)T.J Duckett 2)Patrick Kearney 3)Alge Crumpler 4)and possibly Todd Mclure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Master Jay Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Champ will get his money from the Redskins that's the bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddha Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Originally posted by michael_33 In his recent link he added that the guys that were involved in this "trade talk" were.... Falcons interested in 1)R.Gardner 2)C.Bailey (ufa) 3)I.Ohalete (rfa) 4)and possibly D.Dockery Why they would tip their hand...I have no idea?But I'm just relaying the source.... The Redskins are interested in 1)T.J Duckett 2)Patrick Kearney 3)Alge Crumpler 4)and possibly Todd Mclure Well that makes me call bullcrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 No it's not the bottom line. That may be what you think, but you would be incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 The last time Snyder approached the Falcons for a RB was before the '99 season -when he offered them Stephen Davis and our 1st rd pick for Jamal Andersen. Luckily for us the Falcons said no.:whew: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDiplomat Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Hey Patrick Kerney is a stud, and I doubt his salary is that high. This would be a huge step in rebuilding our DL. Thats 1 of the 4 positions we Need on the DL. Gardner could go as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Master Jay Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 The off season is right around the corner we need to correct a lot of things on our football team. One thing for sure in sports is the good players all get paid and we have to suffer. He is one of the best if not the best and his SB will have a lot of zeros on it I just hope Danny Boys signature is on the check and not somebody elses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Then you hope we continue to suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Master Jay Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 We probably will because our coach surely does and I wouldn't put all the blame on Champ. I know a lot of us thought we were better off when Davis left but that wasn't the case when his new team has won their division and now we need a running back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Yeah, because we were AWESOME with Davis. Champ doesnt deserve all the blame. But if we resign him, he'll deserve more than now, because his money could be used better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Hmm... Rod Gardner and Champ's rights for Patrick Kerney, Algae Crumpler, and a first rounder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Master Jay Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 That is true with a lot of players but the system doesn't work that way and the Agents know it. We can say the same thing about Lavar he's greedy also. When a player gets the chance for a new contract he has to get the max especially in football if Champ was on the free market he may very well get 20 mil. His agent knows it and he knows it. We cant get around that D-Russell will want some money D Gardner left because he got more money from Denver. He play like crap this year and probably wont be on there team next year but he got paid and his agent made sure of it. Champ will too that is the system and it wont change any time some so let the talks begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDiplomat Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Originally posted by CrankyTodd Hmm... Rod Gardner and Champ's rights for Patrick Kerney, Algae Crumpler, and a first rounder? If possible I would jump on this. McCants isn't that much of a drop off from Gardner. Our DL repair would start with Kerney. TE situation is great now. And our losses, I could stand. We would have to pick of a CB in free agency and mabye a low profile hard-working RB. But thats it in FA. In the draft we get 2 DL in the top 10 (). Problems solved. If it was only that simple though. http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133336 http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235206 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_33 Posted December 23, 2003 Author Share Posted December 23, 2003 CHECK this out!! I was just doing my daily web-surfing and look what I ran across? Of course...This is by no means... mean that what I have posted is going to happen as soon as the Skins-eagles games has ended.... But I thought It was interesting none-the-less... http://www.maddenmania.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28252 Maybe the rumors are leaking faster and faster every moment... Guys....I have a feeling we might be dealing with the Falcons before to long.... Where there is smoke....there is fire! I just hope we don't do anything stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Made Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 2 top 10 draft picks this year would be fun.. sean taylor, tommie harris anyone? duckett is no better than rock though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Originally posted by Kilmer17 One of our leaders????? Of what???? We suck. And he's turned down the 16 mill SB we offered and the 50 plus million contract. He's not even worth that. To defend champ that was a pathetic contract and we all know it. Only 7 million of it was actully gauranteed. If all 14 million were he would have taken it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Originally posted by michael_33 CHECK this out!! This is a rumor on a game site :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 I kept joking about a Duckett for Gardner trade a couple weeks ago.... I think this is just rumors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_33 Posted December 23, 2003 Author Share Posted December 23, 2003 Jbooma...On this site...a lot of people keep tabs on their respected teams.... I wasn't saying this is a repredable source...I was only posting it cause I found it quite a coinidence that this topic has been talked about before I got this source this morning.... And on the particular site I posted,they don't talk about fantasy football or gaming or who to trade in their franchise in the game....They talk about subjects that are happening at the time.... are you telling me?You don't find it strange at all that these falcon fans are having trade talks about T.J duckett and my friend e-mails me a link about McKay and Snyder in "trade talks"... And my friend is not a gamer either as far as video games is concerned,so I know that is a fact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Champ is not going to play for the redskins next season so whatever we can get for him will be a plus. T.J duckett could be our next Gerald Riggs couple that with their first round pick and we will be sitting pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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