AJWatson3 Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 i am still itching for us to catch OBL! every day that passes the american public thinks less and less of him. he is the biggest criminal in the world, and a man who orchestrated an attack on america. why don't we have this scumbag yet? and why has everyone from the media to the government not been addressing this? is it not a "hot" news item anymore? disgusting. i can't help but think that if we would have put as much effort into the Afghanistan "War" (aka "War on Terror") as we did in iraq, we might have gotten him. and here's to hoping bush comments "one down, one to go" during his address to the nation this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 We moved a significant amount of intelligence assets into Iraq in order to help with the search for Hussein. Now that he has been captured, you will see these assets redeployed in the hunt for Osama. Today is a great day, not only for the capture of Saddam, but for the ability to bring more assets to bear on our other major target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 OBL is impotent at the moment. His ability to lead his people has greatly diminished given his need to hide. He can't coordinate strikes very far beyond the region at present. He's essentially under control if not under wraps. Saddam was a major part of winning the War on Terror. Bigger even than OBL at the moment because he's a far larger symbol to the world than OBL, though OBL will probably resonate better at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggins44 Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 Art I concur, except that I believe OBL still has the network to create terror around the world. He may not have the efficient system he once enjoyed, but don't underestimate his ability to plan and coordinate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 Under a mountain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 ...I was sure he was going to be in the same cave with Saddam along with Elvis and Amelia Earheart... too bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 OBL in my opinion is much more of a threat to the US than SH was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SkinsHokie Fan Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 He is dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 Originally posted by SkinsHokie Fan He is dead I'm inclined to agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 Code, Perhaps that's partially true. OBL certainly HAS been much more of a threat to the U.S. than Saddam was. But, Saddam had the capacity to be a far greater threat to the U.S. and the eyes of the world care much more about Saddam than OBL right now. OBL, however, isn't much of a threat to the U.S. right now. He's in extreme hiding. He hasn't produced a video of himself in a long while. He's either sick, dead, or scared to death of what will happen if he is filmed because he's awfully quiet for a terrorist leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 Art, its more than simply a "long while". Before the Tora Bora assault, Bin Laden was coming out with videotapes quite regularly. Since Tora Bora, we've seen exactly ONE videotape, and that was clearly old file footage of Bin Laden, taken from a distance, with no associated audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 Originally posted by Art Code, Perhaps that's partially true. OBL certainly HAS been much more of a threat to the U.S. than Saddam was. But, Saddam had the capacity to be a far greater threat to the U.S. and the eyes of the world care much more about Saddam than OBL right now. OBL, however, isn't much of a threat to the U.S. right now. He's in extreme hiding. He hasn't produced a video of himself in a long while. He's either sick, dead, or scared to death of what will happen if he is filmed because he's awfully quiet for a terrorist leader. I understand what you're saying, but OBL was responsible for planning an attack that has had a drastic impact on Americans. While SH is a crazy dictator, his removal is more of a humanitarian victory rather than a victory for the safety of Americans, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 Originally posted by CrankyTodd Art, its more than simply a "long while". Before the Tora Bora assault, Bin Laden was coming out with videotapes quite regularly. Since Tora Bora, we've seen exactly ONE videotape, and that was clearly old file footage of Bin Laden, taken from a distance, with no associated audio. Those tapes remind me of a raghed version of "Weekend at Bernie's" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aREDSKIN Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 OBL is dead, which I think, or in Iran which is possible, but not probable IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 No, Weekend at Bernie's is the official name of the Wesley Clark campaign. Just a cardboard cutout propped up by Clinton campaigners and administration officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 Originally posted by CrankyTodd No, Weekend at Bernie's is the official name of the Wesley Clark campaign. Just a cardboard cutout propped up by Clinton campaigners and administration officials. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Pakistan would be my guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mania Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 OBL has been on dialysis for 6 years and can't be that strong. I had a friend on dialisys for 2.5 years and his bones got very brittle before he received a kidney transplant. I also think OBL is Saddam Hussein w/o stilts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Originally posted by codeorama I understand what you're saying, but OBL was responsible for planning an attack that has had a drastic impact on Americans. While SH is a crazy dictator, his removal is more of a humanitarian victory rather than a victory for the safety of Americans, IMO. Code, It could well prove true that Saddam helped train the chief 9/11 terrorist -- which is being reported by the British press. We'll know more soon enough I suppose to his direct links to 9/11, which may surpass what we thought they might be. Terrorists hang out in the same circles. Taking any of them down directly is a victory for the safety of the American people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius J. Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 well, we know how accurate british intelligence can be on these issues. -DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Originally posted by DrunkenBoxer well, we know how accurate british intelligence can be on these issues. -DB Indeed we do. Which is why this link is such a moving possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Al-Zawahiri is actually by far the biggest threat left to the US. OBL may be the public face of Al Quaeda, but Zawahiri is the brains and would be the muscle of any future attacks. It was Zawahiri who instigated the first WTC attacks. His merging of the Muslim Brotherhood with OBL's mujahadeen is what made Al Quaeda powerful. Nor should we underestimate the importance of capturing Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who was likely the mastermind behind 9/11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 I think he's still alive living in some cave. I think its alittle nicer than the hole they found Saddam in. I also think that he has control over a lot of people still. His plans aren't ones that take place within 24 hours....or days of when orders are given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Documents will come out about saddam's involvement with al queda being more tight than believed. I wonder if some of the tS stuffmy guys and I were privy to will come out during the trial? Time for the truth serum, lie detector test, and sleep deprivation to make saddam spill the beans. But I'd be on the look out for pepe the assasin or olaf to take out saddam beffore the trial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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