jphilly Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 5 hours ago, NickyJ said: To be fair, Skip Bayless really is stupid. Shannon Sharpe dropped in my esteem when he joined Skip's show. the fact that Skip is such a Cowboys blowhard is whats suprising . If he said that about any other team then Id say w/e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey713 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 I think it's kind of unfair to hold QBs to a "higher standard" just because they are the "face of the franchise". Why should WRs and RBs be allowed to goof off without much scrutiny, but a QB can't go out to a party where he's not doing anything illegal?? I'm not saying my opinion is right, but that's how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphilly Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Rey713 said: I think it's kind of unfair to hold QBs to a "higher standard" just because they are the "face of the franchise". Why should WRs and RBs be allowed to goof off without much scrutiny, but a QB can't go out to a party where he's not doing anything illegal?? I'm not saying my opinion is right, but that's how I see it. with great power comes great responsibility. As a leader you want to be the example not the exception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 5 hours ago, jphilly said: with great power comes great responsibility. As a leader you want to be the example not the exception So corny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 16 minutes ago, RonArtest15 said: So corny. This is true. But honestly, can you name a top-tier QB that is a known partier? over the last 20 years? Maybe Cam, but even with him there has been just a small blip on the radar. I'm not saying they don't exist, just nobody comes to mind. QB is one of those positions where you want a football geek that spends his free time diagnosing defenses. Also, shouldn't you hope that Dak cares more about fame and partying than he does getting better at his craft? I sure do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: This is true. But honestly, can you name a top-tier QB that is a known partier? over the last 20 years? Maybe Cam, but even with him there has been just a small blip on the radar. I'm not saying they don't exist, just nobody comes to mind. QB is one of those positions where you want a football geek that spends his free time diagnosing defenses. Also, shouldn't you hope that Dak cares more about fame and partying than he does getting better at his craft? I sure do. If it's a troubling pattern that affects the on-field product, then sure...but going out every now and then, there's nothing wrong with it, IMO. Also, no one has a problem with the partying when you're winning. This is why a lot of Cam's habits were tolerated season before last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey713 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: This is true. But honestly, can you name a top-tier QB that is a known partier? over the last 20 years? Maybe Cam, but even with him there has been just a small blip on the radar. I'm not saying they don't exist, just nobody comes to mind. QB is one of those positions where you want a football geek that spends his free time diagnosing defenses. Also, shouldn't you hope that Dak cares more about fame and partying than he does getting better at his craft? I sure do. I see your point... and if Dak's performance on the field doesn't improve - or if he regresses - and he's still partying it up, then I will definitely hold him accountable. It's not like he went to Cabo before the playoff game.... Until then, as long as he's not taking banned substances or doing illegal crap then let him be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphilly Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 On 2/7/2017 at 8:33 AM, Rey713 said: I see your point... and if Dak's performance on the field doesn't improve - or if he regresses - and he's still partying it up, then I will definitely hold him accountable. It's not like he went to Cabo before the playoff game.... Until then, as long as he's not taking banned substances or doing illegal crap then let him be. The problem is in a short time its has popped up so much already . Now granted the world is a giant bag of **** right now for anyone famous ...... If someone forgets to flush a public bathroom toilet it would be all over the news . The Cowboys even JErry likes to party " leaked hooker Pics " Just look at all the guys that are in trouble over there or have been suspended . I think some people are missing the point that even if he does behave himself . You cant control what others do and even a small bump into the wrong drunk could be a disaster . Its not fair to compare him to normal young people . He has chance to make millions and no amount of partying is worth risking it . With the chances of injury already a chance just playing ..... why tempt faith . If you look over the past 10 years of players getting in trouble off field . Most had something to do with Clubs/ Bars / drinking . From Murder , rape , assault , dui to self inflicted gun shots . Im not saying it will happen to Dak , but it should be a concern and watched . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfandan Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Meh, he will be fine if he understands that, "Nothing GOOD happens at two o'clock in the morning." Until he does something that affects his team this is all just sour grapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphilly Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 2 hours ago, eaglesfandan said: Meh, he will be fine if he understands that, "Nothing GOOD happens at two o'clock in the morning." Until he does something that affects his team this is all just sour grapes. Please show me sour grapes ? No wonder why Eagles fans get the rep they do . Im pretty sure you did not read the whole thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMarco Murray 29 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Wait. You're serious? Come on man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arftech Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Didn't this occur during the first day of their bye week? Frankly, I don't give a damn! Hail Em Up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphilly Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 34 minutes ago, arftech said: Didn't this occur during the first day of their bye week? Frankly, I don't give a damn! Hail Em Up! which time ? THe one was before their loss to the Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambit187 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 On 2/1/2017 at 5:14 PM, jphilly said: So does anyone else see a pattern with this Rayne Dakota Prescott guy ? Yes that his full name if you did not know . He might of had an amazing year but he was also thrown into the perfect storm and got pretty lucky if I might add . People like to praise him for his Maturity and say he make good decisions. I would like to call BS on that . I also wonder what the media has missed since there is already enough stuff to make you wonder . Dak likes to party and drink . Nothing wrong with that but there is always a time and place . During the season and before the draft is definitely not time or place . 1.) Partying during spring break and getting into a drunken brawl , where he got his ass kicked. Not smart a serious injury could of happened to end career before it started . Also could hurt being drafted. 2.) DWI weeks before the NFL draft . the NFL has some pretty dumb players , even they knew better then to drink and drive before the draft . No excuse in a time when everyone has a smart phone and now Uber / Lyft available at a touch of a button . 3.) Partying in October with SNoop Dog. SNoop is Snoop everyone knows what he is about . Getting ascioted with that crowed is never good . Either is partying it up as alcohol and drugs can lead to bad things " fights , getting shot > accidents ect. 4.) Partying like they won something after going 11-1 . Out again drinking .... ALso spraying the crowed with champagne. Late nights are just asking for trouble .... SPary the wrong guy or girl with that crap .... your asking for trouble . They also lost the next game vs the Giants . 5. ) GOing to Vegas to party right after the season and crushing loss in playoffs . Starting to see a pattern ? the guys likes to drink and have a good time . his season was far from perfect people also call him very confident . I think having a season like he did will hurt more then help . RIght now his head is probably huge with the ego stroking fans and media . Thats never good for a young man with money . He had a lot of things he needs to work on and with teams having a full year of tapes will be studying it . ALso the pro bowl showed his weak arm and long ball accuracy . Wentz first thing he did was want to improve himself by hiring one of Houses disciples to help with his mechanics and throwing . DOnt get me wrong , I cant wait for it all to blow up in their faces and the excuses / crying begin . the best will be when they get rid on Romo and then finding out it might of been a mistake . you thoughts ? Discuss I smell someone who is very salty.....lets take these line by line 1. Dak and two of his teamate were jumped at a concert at Spring Break by 6 other guys.....I am pretty that I know at 46 that everyone that goes to spring break either drinks or smokes. Also I vividly remember being at Fort Bliss in the 90's and me and my Army homeboys getting into fights with Tim Hardaway and Tony Tolbert who were big time athletes at UTEP........ 2. The DUI was cleared " According to the Starkville Daily News, conflicting reports by the arresting officers, inconclusive Breathalyzer results and video evidence cleared the former Mississippi State quarterback." Also he left his house to go pick up/help a teammate that was going through some things and was himself impaired. 3. Partying with Snoop Dog....is not a big deal. Snoop is not a convicted criminal and Snoops brand is growing can't remember the last time I seen mass shootings or arrest at a Snoop Dog concert. Also they were in VIP with heavy security 4. Partying and spraying drinks....Hummmm I'm pretty sure they were in VIP in an exclusive club and nothing happened....Still they are young and aloud to have fun and from what I heard there was plenty of security. 5. Is just super sour grapes....Its AFTER THE SEASON.... Funny that you didn't mention that during the season he turned down front row seats with backstage passes to a Kanye West concert because he wanted to study for a game. You also failed to mention how he has been turning down endorsement deals also so he can focus on his work..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Well, turning down the Kanye tickets to study doesn't fit OP's narrative...sooooo.... LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphilly Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, RonArtest15 said: Well, turning down the Kanye tickets to study doesn't fit OP's narrative...sooooo.... LOL Id be even more worried about him if he wanted to go to a Kanye show . 18 minutes ago, gambit187 said: I smell someone who is very salty.....lets take these line by line 1. Dak and two of his teamate were jumped at a concert at Spring Break by 6 other guys.....I am pretty that I know at 46 that everyone that goes to spring break either drinks or smokes. Also I vividly remember being at Fort Bliss in the 90's and me and my Army homeboys getting into fights with Tim Hardaway and Tony Tolbert who were big time athletes at UTEP........ 2. The DUI was cleared " According to the Starkville Daily News, conflicting reports by the arresting officers, inconclusive Breathalyzer results and video evidence cleared the former Mississippi State quarterback." Also he left his house to go pick up/help a teammate that was going through some things and was himself impaired. 3. Partying with Snoop Dog....is not a big deal. Snoop is not a convicted criminal and Snoops brand is growing can't remember the last time I seen mass shootings or arrest at a Snoop Dog concert. Also they were in VIP with heavy security 4. Partying and spraying drinks....Hummmm I'm pretty sure they were in VIP in an exclusive club and nothing happened....Still they are young and aloud to have fun and from what I heard there was plenty of security. 5. Is just super sour grapes....Its AFTER THE SEASON.... Funny that you didn't mention that during the season he turned down front row seats with backstage passes to a Kanye West concert because he wanted to study for a game. You also failed to mention how he has been turning down endorsement deals also so he can focus on his work..... Its funny to see some of the posts on this thread . WHen people can not come back with a intelligent argument they will say Hater or Stupid and other simple words because they don't understand what they read or thought they read . So you dont even get your facts correct tells me everything I need to know about you . He was not skipping out " A" endorsement to study and work on his game during the bye week . He turned down an offer to go on a late night TV show to go see his Grandmother instead . Which is admirable but family is family and he was brought up close with his . Kanye LOL that dude still sells tickets ? But again he turned down tickets once so far ...... Its funny when people get there own ideas stuck in there heads and only read or see what they want . Please show me where I showed dislike for Dak or wrote anything that you could say Im upset with . It does not change the fact Dak needs to be careful because people are crazy and stupid these days . Dak can go out and be a perfect angel and crap can still happen . You really are missing the whole point ... so Im done wasting my breath . Everything is already in this thread for you to read.; S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambit187 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, jphilly said: Id be even more worried about him if he wanted to go to a Kanye show . Its funny to see some of the posts on this thread . WHen people can not come back with a intelligent argument they will say Hater or Stupid and other simple words because they don't understand what they read or thought they read . So you dont even get your facts correct tells me everything I need to know about you . He was not skipping out " A" endorsement to study and work on his game during the bye week . He turned down an offer to go on a late night TV show to go see his Grandmother instead . Which is admirable but family is family and he was brought up close with his . Kanye LOL that dude still sells tickets ? But again he turned down tickets once so far ...... Its funny when people get there own ideas stuck in there heads and only read or see what they want . Please show me where I showed dislike for Dak or wrote anything that you could say Im upset with . It does not change the fact Dak needs to be careful because people are crazy and stupid these days . Dak can go out and be a perfect angel and crap can still happen . You really are missing the whole point ... so Im done wasting my breath . Everything is already in this thread for you to read.; S I am missing the point mainly because you have none, your picking and choosing which incidents you points without providing any evidence that the things he has done are detrimental to his growth or that he is going to become the Adam "Pacman" Jones.....I also notice you did not do any homework, research or prepare a rebuttal for 1. and 2. You also did not go and post any articles from The Mannings that love him, His ex-coaches love him, the people that have told all types of stories about his childhood and what a wonderful and understanding son he was growing up with mix parents in a poverty environment love him. You slanted your argument with all things that would make you look like you really had a point. Honestly you sitting there praying and contemplating his downfall says a lot about you as a person....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambit187 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 On 2/6/2017 at 8:38 AM, RonArtest15 said: On a Monday night? Like 5-6 days out from playing? I couldn't care less, honestly. Shoot, I know for a fact that many guys on the Skins would be out in the bars in Arlington/DC on Thursday nights. Just because you go out and enjoy yourself doesn't make you someone who's going to end up like Manziel. I know of about a half dozen Skins that party a whole lot and about 3-4 that on occasion see ex-pornstars that are now escorts in the DC/VA/MD area..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphilly Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 56 minutes ago, gambit187 said: I am missing the point mainly because you have none, your picking and choosing which incidents you points without providing any evidence that the things he has done are detrimental to his growth or that he is going to become the Adam "Pacman" Jones.....I also notice you did not do any homework, research or prepare a rebuttal for 1. and 2. You also did not go and post any articles from The Mannings that love him, His ex-coaches love him, the people that have told all types of stories about his childhood and what a wonderful and understanding son he was growing up with mix parents in a poverty environment love him. You slanted your argument with all things that would make you look like you really had a point. Honestly you sitting there praying and contemplating his downfall says a lot about you as a person....... If you really dont get it then after 3 pages Im not sure there is any chance you suddenly comprehend what was posted . I hope you are just trolling or did not read the whole thread and that's why you are missing it . It just happens to be Dak that is doing and gets used as the Token for the thread . IF it was wentz , Kirk , ELi BRady I would be bringing up same thing . Dak had an amazing year and has a bright future . He has to be smart because even if he does nothing wrong you cant control other people . When booze and drugs come into play its just tempting fate at times. Not worth messing up a career or getting seriously hurt . Is it a extreme stance yes and no .But how many other rookie QB have been in news for " partying" or even Vets " besides Johnny 8ball" THe rest is already in this thread not re typing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Seems like there's only one person in this thread who understands whatever point you're trying to make, JPhilly. If you're not sure who that is, look in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphilly Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 8 hours ago, RonArtest15 said: Seems like there's only one person in this thread who understands whatever point you're trying to make, JPhilly. If you're not sure who that is, look in the mirror. If only that was true ... Maybe if your reading was a stronger asset for you . You would see what was in fact said or not said . 3 pages on thread and you still have yet to add anything solid to it . Yet you cant get enough of the thread you still have yet to fully read it and understand it . You should be an advocate for reason not to eat lead paint . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onedrop Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I've been wanting to use the obscure canned ham reference for a while so I fell for it as well. The first 2 sentences of the OP are simply clowning the guys real name. That is all the evidence anyone should need as to true motivation for this threads existence. Realize; the premise of the original post is so laughable that we've invested 3 pages, some going so far as to actually defend a cowboy QB here on a Redskin MB...yes even here in ATN, started by an eagles fan. This is one of recent memories bigger troll jobs, either by ruthless cunning or blind idiotic luck. Personal analysis of individual posts and responses has my mind made up as to which but in either case it's mental masturbation....with sandpaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphilly Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 hours ago, onedrop said: I've been wanting to use the obscure canned ham reference for a while so I fell for it as well. The first 2 sentences of the OP are simply clowning the guys real name. That is all the evidence anyone should need as to true motivation for this threads existence. Realize; the premise of the original post is so laughable that we've invested 3 pages, some going so far as to actually defend a cowboy QB here on a Redskin MB...yes even here in ATN, started by an eagles fan. This is one of recent memories bigger troll jobs, either by ruthless cunning or blind idiotic luck. Personal analysis of individual posts and responses has my mind made up as to which but in either case it's mental masturbation....with sandpaper. or it could be Diarrhea of the mouth constipation of the brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 On 06/02/2017 at 2:38 PM, RonArtest15 said: Shoot, I know for a fact that many guys on the Skins would be out in the bars in Arlington/DC on Thursday nights. Which is a problem because they also do it when we play on Thursday night... Ever wonder why we suck on primetime? You get your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphilly Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 8 hours ago, Wildbunny said: Which is a problem because they also do it when we play on Thursday night... Ever wonder why we suck on primetime? You get your answer. are you saying some Redskins players <STAFF EDIT, RULE 13> to Deion Sanders ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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