StevieInferior Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 A buddy of mine said that he herd on WTEM that Lavar has got a beef with Edwards. Anyone have any details? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Apparently he was seen going on a tirade on the sidelines during the game. I dunno the details though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieInferior Posted November 17, 2003 Author Share Posted November 17, 2003 Well he can't blame the DC anymore. He always seems to blame the DC when in fact he needs to take a deep look inside and find out what is wrong with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSKNfaithfull Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Just tune in to the John Thompson show this afternoon Lavar always gives full details and Doc grills him about everything no cut cards its great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 SS, good point. He didn't like his D coordinators and endorsed this one so it's time for him to step up. Now, I'm making that statement without even hearing the whole story. There's a chance that he and Edwards were both just fired up and having an exchange that was misinterpreted.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Lavar, IMO, as well as anyone on the defense, has a right to be irate with Edwards. How many 3rd downs were we in a zone and Mushan Muhammad catches for a first? The man had over 189 yds receiving. He should of be keyed on, especially on third downs, after he hit his first 3 frist down receptions. I think youth got us in this case in the coaching ranks. However, I have noticed that Edwards learns well from his mistakes. He doesn't make the same ones too often from game to game. That is promising, very promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakofthesouth Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Guys...guys....guys... Lavar has been one of the most costly victims of Snyder's inability to maintain a DC for more than one year. Every friggin' year, Lavar has to adapt, change, think about this differently, think about that. It's not his fault that his coaching has no consistency. Now, you might say that Edwards' system is similar to Lewis', etc., but it's still different. Each year, he has to try and recreate chemistry w/ a new DC, and learn the system all over again. What he needs is a DC to stick around and work w/ Lavar and create an atmosphere where he can play the game to his potential. Because Lavar is the best defensive player the skins have had in some time, and if we can't keep him happy, he will be gone. And the team that he goes to will ultimately give him a great environment to grow in... he will come back to haunt us. So don't talk smack about the best defensive player the skins have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Originally posted by UtahRedskins However, I have noticed that Edwards learns well from his mistakes. He doesn't make the same ones too often from game to game. Forgot about two weeks of bootleg plays, didn't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 While LaVar is talented and a beast, he in NEVER happy with the defense coordinator or scheme. I'd dangle LaVar as trade bait and see what the possibilities are. We have too many "stars" on the defensive side of the ball, we need lunch pail guys that aren't after the glam life and just do their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakofthesouth Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Originally posted by codeorama I'd dangle LaVar as trade bait and see what the possibilities are. Dude, you're crazy. I'm really glad you're not in the FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Why is that crazy? If a team was willing to give us 5 number 1s for him we'd be crazy NOT to take it. On a cellar dwelling team, nobody is "tradeproof". Im not saying give him up for a song. But everybody has a price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 I don't think Code is that crazy at all. Personally I don't believe we can have both Trotter and Lavar on the field because they share too many of the same weaknesses, particularly overpursuit. We need somebody to stay in position and not blow his assignments. After dominating the first few weeks of the season, they are now getting consistently fooled on game-changing plays by bootlegs, screens, etc. Lavar is getting sick of losing, and his monstrous cap figures mean if he doesn't want to stay, he can force our hand by refusing to negotiate. If Davis wasn't worth 11m, Lavar is not worth 9m or so (whatever the upcoming figure is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakofthesouth Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Well, that's your opinion guys. If we get rid of Lavar Arrington, we will surely regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touchdown Portis! Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 If, and only IF, we had to trade one, we'd trade Trotter. Lavar is a Redskin. He's a damn beast and makes things happen. He's very intense and wants to win. Give it a little more time and let him get a little more experience and he is going to start killing people. I can't believe you would talk of trading Lavar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakofthesouth Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Besides, Riggo, it's not his fault the defense is struggling. And yeah, he makes some mistakes, and he overpursues occassionally, but he's human; all players make mistakes. Lavar runs around every game w/ a friggin' target on his chest; the opposing team usually assigns two guys to take him out if the play. And he plays through that. The answer is not all these new players; that's been proven in the past few offseasons. The answer is team chemistry...a vital part of a winning team. We have to create a 'sense of team.' The players are there, particularly w/ Lavar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan913 Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Trade Lavar? Someone has been :high: and :cannibas: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Not trade Lavar is some other team is willing to grossly overpay for him? That's smoking crack. Are you people saying that if Arizona offered their next 5 number 1 picks, their next 5 number 2 picks, and offered to pay all of Lavars cap hit next year you wouldnt trade him? Nobody is saying we should just can him. But it's crazy to say he is untradeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Kilmer summed up my sentiment... I never said get rid of him at all cost, I said dangle him as trade bait and see if there is a deal we can't turn down. I would love to have a killer d line. LaVar is overrated. He doen't follow his assignments, he's always got a problem with whomever his boss is. I wouldn't give him away, but if someone wants to give away the fort for him... I'm there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakofthesouth Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Again, Kilmer, I really don't think personnel is the issue. Sure we're thin at certain areas, but so are other teams that get it done. The difference is chemistry, and Lavar needs to stay. This whole FA explosion the NFL is undergoing presents a very interesting conflict- get the best talent, or maintain and create a tight-knit group of players? Look at the Eagles. McNabb is not the best QB, their receivers are never pro-bowl bound, but yet, for the past few years, they have been a great team becuase of their chemistry. That's the main ingredient to making a solid super bowl run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakofthesouth Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 One more thing, Code... Lavar is not overrated. He is a great player. The defense needs continuity, not the possibility of new personnel. Just the thought/talk of Lavar going on to the market would create a lot of bad feelings in the organization. Bad idea. But, you guys are free to think what you want! I just don't agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Bad analogy. The Eagles have ben changing personell at WR and RB for 4 years now. WRs- Na Brown, Charles Johnson, Torrance Small, Thrash Mitchell, Pinkston, The ex packer whose name escapes me, McMullen, countless TEs. And more RBs than we have. I'd love to keep Lavar in B&G forever, but I bet their were a bunch of Cowboy fans who wanted Herschel Walker forever too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakofthesouth Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 OK, good point. Maybe not the Eagles. I guess what I mean is that they are good regardless of the caliber of their players. When McNabb went down last year, I was sure their season was over. But...Detmer comes in and leads his team. Then, he gets injured. Feely comes in and leads his team. That's the kind of continuity I mean, and that's the kind of chemistry that wins ball games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Freak... LaVar is not a great player... he could be with his talent, but he is nowhere close to being great. He hurts the team constantly with his free lancing AND... continuity you say??? LaVar hated it when Marty was here, he hated Lewis, now he hates it with Edwards... what gives, is he coachable at all?? Do we have to get a special LaVar coach that does exactly what LaVar says so he can finally be great? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Williams Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 just like marvin he's making arrington play DE......arrington doesn't like doing that very often.....if he wants to blitz he will....in college he was a roamer and he feels in the nfl he should be to.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Originally posted by KINGBRICE_28 just like marvin he's making arrington play DE......arrington doesn't like doing that very often.....if he wants to blitz he will....in college he was a roamer and he feels in the nfl he should be to.... So basically, LaVar is only happy if he is able to do only what he wants...?? I'd rather have a guy that enjoys doing what the coach asks of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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