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      Good afternoon Redskins fans!  I have once again been invited to sit in the relative comfort of the press box and shout my thoughts into the void via this blog.  As you watch the game today and see the rain  pour relentlessly from the heavens, know that I am safe and dry.  Know also that @Spaceman Spiff is out there somewhere, cold and unappreciated, rolling around in the muck trying to capture that perfect picture.  Maybe say a little prayer for his health (or laugh, whatever, I’m not judging you).  Also, be sure not to miss the pictures he posts on this site after each game.     
       
      Before we get into today's Redskins game, I want give some thanks for more positive occurrences in DC sports.  Congrats to the Washington Mystics for winning their first championship.  Congrats go out to the Washington Nationals as well for reaching the world series.  These two teams (along with the Caps) are working hard to change the sports related mood around this town, and we're all happier for it. 
       
      Lets move now into less cheerful topics, namely your Washington Redskins!  Yow know things are going bad, and I mean really dang bad, when your team has gone through three quarterbacks and two coaches and your not even half way through the season.  Today's fresh hell comes in the form of a specter of the our recent past coming to smirk at our misfortune.  Im talking of course of Kyle.  Kyle's spent the week assuring everyone that he isn’t holding a grudge, while very obviously holding a grudge.  “Everything else.”  You know what I’m talking about. 
       
      If all he brought to town were his hurt feelings we wouldn’t have a problem.  Sadly, he’s arrived with an undefeated football team that the NFL says we have to play this week.  This feels entirely unfair. 
       
      My generic key to the game:  Run the ball and stop the run.  The team (spoiler alert: 49ers) that does this today will win.   
       
      Redskins Inactives  
      QB Colt McCoy  
      S Deshazor Everett  
      CB Josh Norman  
      RB Chris THompson  
      LB Josh Harvey-Clemons 
      G Wes Martin  
      TE Vernon Davis  
       
      49ers inactives  
      QB CJ Beathard 
      WR Deebo Samuel  
      CB Ahkello Witherspoon  
      FB Kyle Juszczyk 
      T Mike McGLinchey 
      T Joe Staley 
      DL DJ Jones 
       
      1st Quarter Update
      Redskins 0 – 0 49ers
       
      Callahan wasn’t playing around when he said he wanted to run the ball.  That first drive was all runs, and looked great... right up until they tried to pass the ball.  Hopkins missed the relatively short fied goal, because of course he did.     

      Maybe Quinn isn’t a good choice to be returning punts?  Consider it.    
       
      That second Redskins drive looked more like what we’ve come to expect from this offense.  Run for negative yards, pass dropped, and an unsuccessful screen pass.  A quintessential Redskins three and out. 

      Passing yards this quarter:  Redskins 3. 49ers 9.  Are you not entertained?! 
       
      Half Time Update
      Redskins 0 – 0 49ers 
       
      How happy are you to spend your Sunday afternoon watching this game?  Consider that some people paid money, to sit in a poncho, in the rain, to watch this game. 
       
      It’s now time for those half time adjustments that our beloved skins do so well.  It’s unlikely the second half mirrors the first. 
       
      3rd Quarter Update 
      Redskins 0 – 3 49ers  
       
      Good news, this game will not end in a 0-0 tie.  Those half time adjustments have kicked in as expected and the 49ers have found a way onto the scoreboard in this messy throwback game.  The Redskins have decided to spend the second half collecting holding penalties and sadness.  Mercifully, only one quarter remains. 
       
      End of Game Update 
      Redskins 0 – 9 49ers 
       
      Callahan hasn’t spent much time as the head coach of the Washington Redskins, but he’s already proven that his team can waste 2nd half timeouts like a veteran.  It makes little sense to adopt a strategy that shortens the game when your team is losing, and it makes even less sense when your team is short on time outs.  I’m not really sure what the thinking as late in this game.    
       
      Next week Kirk Cousins!   
       
       

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NFL.com: Jeff Fisher Trolls Redskins During Coin Toss

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eat it you moustached son of a ****

 

karma ... 

 

"I love it when nobody says you have a chance to win. There is an 11-3 team and a team that is always 8-8," Arians said. "You figure it out." I was pretty sure no one could top Jeff Fisher's sending out six captains to face the Redskins move in terms of a head coach firing shots at another team, but Arians has somehow outdone himself.

 

"Everybody wanted to talk all that stuff about how great their defense is. I think they saw a good defense tonight, it was in red and white," Arians said. "We blocked them. I think they had been reading their press clippings way too much."

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24882109/bruce-arians-rips-people-for-picking-always-8-8-rams

 

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Hard to say.

 

We did at least get one good year out of the trade. Now, it was meant for long-term success, so you can definitely say we failed there.

 

For me, it's hard to say who really "won" this trade.

 

Here's the players the Rams received: DT Michael Brockers, CB Janoris Jenkins, RB Isaiah Pead, G Rokevious Watkins, LB Alec Ogletree, WR Stedman Bailey, RB Zac Stacy, OT Greg Robinson.

 

Pead has 75 career yards, Stacy has 19 carries the last 8 weeks, Bailey has 622 career yards, Watkins played in 4 games before being cut, Jenkins is a decent CB, Brockers is solid, Olgetree isn't bad, and Robinson is a rookie. Yes, they got some decent players on the team, but let's not act all those players they drafted are studs.

its not hard at all, the Rams won the trade by a lot.

They have guys that are still on their team and will be there for the next few years.

The guy we have is probably gone this April. WE lost.

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its not hard at all, the Rams won the trade by a lot.

They have guys that are still on their team and will be there for the next few years.

The guy we have is probably gone this April. WE lost.

 

That's great if they have players still on their team, but if they're contributing as much to a successful season as Griffin is right now, does that really mean they won?

 

To me, it's like a trade in fantasy football. Just because you're reciving more players in the trade, doesn't necessarily mean you won the trade. If the guys you traded for aren't making your team better, did you really win the trade?

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That's great if they have players still on their team, but if they're contributing as much to a successful season as Griffin is right now, does that really mean they won?

 

To me, it's like a trade in fantasy football. Just because you're reciving more players in the trade, doesn't necessarily mean you won the trade. If the guys you traded for aren't making your team better, did you really win the trade?

that Rams defense is disgusting and Jenkins, Ogletree, and Brockers are vital cogs in that. Lets be honest here. Jenkins is way more than solid. He is a damn good cornerback and better than any player we have on our roster.

Those guys are contributing much more than what RG3 is contributing to this team and will contribute more to the Rams in the future.

If you are sitting back and looking at the results of that trade and think its still a push, then you are so off the deep end that its not worth having a rational conversation with you. Its just not true. We lost the trade.

The Rams problem is they have a charlatan coach and no QB.

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That's great if they have players still on their team, but if they're contributing as much to a successful season as Griffin is right now, does that really mean they won?

 

To me, it's like a trade in fantasy football. Just because you're reciving more players in the trade, doesn't necessarily mean you won the trade. If the guys you traded for aren't making your team better, did you really win the trade?

we got a playoff appearance from it (if you want to know how great that was ... ask a Cowboy fan about thier recent playoff apperances)

 

head to head vs. the Rams ... at worst a wash

 

in general ... worst thing to happen to the Redskins in my memory ... a team that was (and continues to be) a talent void across the entire roster .... 4 potential starting players (at a minimum might have been able to pick up another day 1 or 2 pick since some of those were very high picks) traded for 1 QB who would start day 1, have no internship and with Grossman as his "veteran" mentor and an equally unproven and unprepared Cousins as back up.  Has nothing to do with Griffin ... just a felony stupid thing to do to a franchise that needed to rebuild ... and honestly Griffin as well

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Speaking of Jeff Fisher. Is there a more revered and respected coach that has never won anything in the NFL?

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that Rams defense is disgusting and Jenkins, Ogletree, and Brockers are vital cogs in that. Lets be honest here. Jenkins is way more than solid. He is a damn good cornerback and better than any player we have on our roster.

Those guys are contributing much more than what RG3 is contributing to this team and will contribute more to the Rams in the future.

If you are sitting back and looking at the results of that trade and think its still a push, then you are so off the deep end that its not worth having a rational conversation with you. Its just not true. We lost the trade.

The Rams problem is they have a charlatan coach and no QB.

 

Again, I don't see how it's clear we lost the trade.

 

Both teams made the trade hoping they would get better.

 

The Rams brought Fisher in in 2012. Since the trade, the Rams are 20-25-1. Yes, better our record over that time period, but no winning seasons. Yes, they have some nice players they acquired, but it hasn't led to the team getting any better. Sure, their defense is good, but they aren't getting results. All you heard about his how this trade was so great for the Rams, then where are the results?

 

I'm not trying to justify the trade on our end because the last 2 years have not made it look good for us. But after the 2012 season, just about everyone said that trade was worth it for us. We've at least had a little success since the deal, the Rams are basically the same team they were from before they made the deal.

 

This isn't like the Herschel Walker trade that enabled the Cowboys to embark on their dynasty run. None of those guys even have a Pro Bowl apperance.

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I'm not trying to justify the trade on our end because the last 2 years have not made it look good for us.

and it wont look good for us going into the future.

 

This isn't like the Herschel Walker trade that enabled the Cowboys to embark on their dynasty run. None of those guys even have a Pro Bowl apperance.

is this the scale we judge whether a team won a trade or not? Whether it turns into a Herschel Walker-like trade? Thats a ridiculous standard and shows that you are not able to have a rational discussion on this topic.

Again, RG3 will more than likely not be a player for this team anymore. The Rams defense is one of the best units in the NFL now and its because they got 3 starters from this trade.

The issue they have is a bad coach and terrible offense (Brian Schottenheimer is another of these Legacy hires that show they have no real ability to coach in this league. Sounds familiar.) but that team is talented and have a great foundation to build.

We have nothing.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa on the Jenkins talk.

He's been the most victimized guy on their D all year and this was highlighted last night by announcers... After he was beat on long ball by Floyd.

Rams are 6-10, 7-9 for the remaing life of this trade.

Nobody won. Frankly, I'd take RG3s potential over a bad franchise with a handful of above average players.

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Just went back and reread the article to make sure I didn't miss anything. It didn't explain what a coin toss was either. Since nobody can answer me, I assume I'm not the only one. I did find this wikipedia page which may be helpful for those who aren't familiar with the practice... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coin_flipping. I do have a few questions though that maybe somebody can answer.

1. Why do they call the eagle side 'Tails'? Seems like it would make a lot more sense just to call it 'Eagle'.

2. The article says I'm supposed to say what side it's going to land on while it's still in the air. That doesn't make any sense. I have no idea what side it's going to land on when it's in the air.

3. In the demonstration, it says land "on" but it's actually the opposite, right? Like it landed on it's head, you actually call Eagle.

4. What if it lands on it's edge? Tie?

 

How long have you been watching football? Heck, how long have you been living on planet earth? I feel like this post is made by someone living in a bizarro world without coins. This is something elementary school aged kids do to learn about probability.

 

It's like you've somehow managed to not watch a single Super Bowl, Championship game, or overtime game ever. They all make a point to show the coin toss.

 

I can't believe that this is the type of person I argue with on ES. This has changed everything for me.

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Vic Tafur @VicTafur

As much as I enjoyed Jeff Fisher showing up Washington with the RG3 draft picks last week, the karma gods did not. Win more, troll less.

Ding ding ding.

Their All World team tried their damndest to hand the Skins the game in the first half, then score a whopping 6 pts last night.

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