WakkaWakka Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 For any of you Feds: http://blog.al.com/breaking/2013/07/secretary_of_defense_chuck_hag.html Furlough is here to stay for 2013, Secretary of DefenseChuck Hagel said this week, ending the hopes of those who thought the Pentagonmight yet cancel or lower the number of days of unpaid leave workers arescheduled to take through the end of the fiscal year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 I've been following the things Hagel has been saying this week. At least he manned up and said it was his decision to furlough all the services equally, which I'm still not sure is lawful for him to do. At my agency we've got plenty of money and all furlough is doing is pissing off hardworking people like myself. I was previously not shy about putting in "unpaid volunteer" time to get the job done, but now.... they've made it clear they don't want the job done and don't care about us. This is because our agency put in huge restrictions on spending when sequestration came down. Hagel has mentioned that right now he can't guarantee it will be lower than 11, but also said he hopes we'll be able to get to September and cut a couple days off. I took measures to protect my family for these 3 months, but if furloughs go into 2014 and they structure them the same way as this year (compress it all into a 20% pay cut) it'll hurt a ton more. The problem I have now is that he's been throwing around $52B vs. $37B to indicate that 2014 is going to be worse. Well... that $37B was over the last 6 months, so technically speaking our cut/spend rate is going to be a little bit better in 2014 since we won't have to take the cuts so drastically. I would like to see Congress take action on the furloughs vs. Hagel, but I know which party drove sequestration, drove using the debt limit as leverage and is driving to do so again. I still have a hard time understanding if sequestration is good policy-wise. In my mind we pretty much reached the event horizon in February 1996... that's when we hit our first national debt of $5T. All these people yelling about the debt now, where were they then (I bet a few of them were cutting their teeth in Congress). If we had no intention of paying back that first $5T, why do we care how much we run the debt to? (I know, there's something about the debt:GDP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Wait, Ferg, if you're furloughed for 11 days, how is that a 20% pay cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointyfootball Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Wait, Ferg, if you're furloughed for 11 days, how is that a 20% pay cut? 20% pay reduction for rest of fiscal year, not for entire year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USS Redskins Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 the cool thing is that Mr. Pres will be vacationing in Marthas Vineyard - on the heels of a 100 million dollar Africa trip. Way to tighten that belt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointyfootball Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 the cool thing is that Mr. Pres will be vacationing in Marthas Vineyard - on the heels of a 100 million dollar Africa trip. Way to tighten that belt! It is frustrating, but this can't be pinned only on the president. Congress is just as much to blame and they're getting ready for their summer recess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 What annoys me more is that you can't find any Congressman who has taken to the floor and takl about how great these cuts are for saving money (10 have taken to the floor and denounced these cuts). Yet, I think they could make a deal to offset $10B this year (divided between ($5B) of the worst cuts in defense and $5B of the worst cuts in non-defense) by takinhg money out of the outs years of sequestration (heck they could take it out of 2016-2017).. Given that I've not seen any indication of a deal to end sequestration, I'm pretty sure the GOP/TEA Party shouldn't worry about no follow through on these cuts. Otherwise it's, "Hooray, we really, *really* don't care about the middle class." Every week and furlough day that continues makes me turn against both parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Bernanke just said that the economy has slowed one to one and a half percent because of the sequester too. Winning all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakkaWakka Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Disfunction continues. http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/312727-shutdown-looms-over-obamacare Forget about furloughs for select agencies. Let's just shut the whole thing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Disfunction continues. http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/312727-shutdown-looms-over-obamacare Forget about furloughs for select agencies. Let's just shut the whole thing down. Don't punish federal employees because Congress can't do their damn job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Bernanke just said that the economy has slowed one to one and a half percent because of the sequester too. Winning all around. a clear sign we need to change from the govt being the economy helicopter drop baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborneskins Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 http://www.federalnewsradio.com/1103/3413329/Defense-furloughs-cut-from-11-days-to-6- WASHINGTON (AP) -- U.S. defense officials say they will be able to ease the pain of mandatory, unpaid furloughs that civilian employees have had to bear for a month because of budgetary pressures. The Associated Press learned that civilians facing 11 unpaid days off will have those cut to six days. Officials say the Pentagon found sufficient savings in the final months of the current fiscal year to lessen the burden on those who have had to take a day off a week without pay since early July. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel approved the final numbers this week after meeting with top leaders. Officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly. The decision comes as about 650,000 civilian workers began their fifth week of furloughs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 That's fantastic news. Furloughs do nothing but harm. Although my wife will be bummed that she doesn't have 7 more Fridays "off", it will be a welcome back for her pay. I suspect they will continue the furloughs for 2 more weeks (to get to 6 weeks) then go back to full pay/work weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborneskins Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Yeah, I am assuming that if true, it will be that way. For me, my 6th furlough day would be next Friday. I havent heard anything official from anyone regarding this though. Just what they are reporting on Federal News Radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborneskins Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 I just received the email with a copy of Secretary Hagels memorandum. In a nutshell, all DoD civilian furoloughs will be cut from 11 to 6. However; you will still have to complete your 6 furlough days by the 17th of August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 I'm thankful that they ended them early and am hopeful that they won't use them as a crutch next FFY. That said, I'm even more thankful that we could afford to lose 20% of her salary for the 6 weeks. I know quite a few people who weren't as fortunate. To me, furloughs will always be a giant mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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