scottb Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 From the Washington Times: The NFL decided not to fine New England Patriots fullback Larry Centers for his late hit on Redskins linebacker Jeremiah Trotter last week. Centers, who appeared to spear Trotter after a play was over, was flagged for a personal foul. ... If Carrier had made that hit a couple of years ago, he'd have been suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 If Arrington made that hit this year he would have been suspended and fined. I don't know if it is an offensive/defensive thing, but that's terrible. Centers admitted as much as it was an intentional spearing when he said that he would have pulled up if he knew it was Trotter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 The old NFL double standard in play here. It seems like,in these matters,we never get respected.Maybe if Trotter would've been seriously injured,the league would've done something..:cuss: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Same old shlitz..........different day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_good_brotha Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 It's just like last season when McCants took a helmet to helmet shot in the end zone. I can't remember who hit him or what team he played for. Anyways, that person wasn't fined or suspended. I'm sick of the Redskins getting screwed. Brotha aka Bro Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTerps2002 Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Lets face it the NFL offices don't care much for the skins... Upshaw's father is the one who levies fines and he may not want to show favirotism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Funny how an obvious hit like that rates a fine/suspension and we get hit with trifling taunting penalties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symbol Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Leading with the helmet is also suppose to carry a personal foul penalty, didn't see one of those either did we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Other than the fact the Centers hit was completely legal and well done and what you teach NFL players to do, I think the NFL is crazy not to fine him. Oh, wait, he shouldn't have even had the flag thrown against him much less be fined after the fact. Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 I watched the game again yesterday and it really wasn't a late hit. He did spear Trotter with his helmet though. It should have been a penalty and a fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Art, Aren't they taught to look at what their hitting. That was a spear. Head down and after the play had ended effectively, if not by whistle. The hit could not have sprung or done anything advantageous to the offense except to eliminate a defensive player by penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 yeah, it's got to go both ways. Any safety in the league would be 7500 bucks lighter this week. I tell you, Gene Washington is the worst thing that ever happened to this league. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridironmike Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Originally posted by Burgold Art, Aren't they taught to look at what their hitting. That was a spear. Head down and after the play had ended effectively, if not by whistle. The hit could not have sprung or done anything advantageous to the offense except to eliminate a defensive player by penalty. I coach 6-8 year olds and we tell them "SEE what you hit, hit what you SEE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 We need to keep that little clip, so the next time LaVar or someone on the Skins nails someone like that, we can say we were just doing what was already deemed acceptable by the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofer Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Originally posted by Yusuf06 I watched the game again yesterday and it really wasn't a late hit. He did spear Trotter with his helmet though. It should have been a penalty and a fine. It was late enough, though. The play was over. Centers had his head down. It should have been at least a fine. I used to like Centers. He made some nice plays for us a few years ago, and I thought Marty was wrong for cutting him. But that hit was a cheap shot, and he knows it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPare Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Didn't know that Regan was Gene's son, but it stands to reason, I guess. Problem with that analysis though, is that the skins had this kind of problem long before Regan arrived in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Sack Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 We're the Redskins. Why fine someone who illegally speared one of our players? I mean, come on, the NFL needs to be consistent. And I think they were consistent, in that they once again backed off from taking action on a player who cared nothing about the safety of an opponent. Nothing changes with officials. I hope we go to the SB soon. I hope we begin absolutely killing teams, regardless of the no fines and no calls. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkaD Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Personally, I think it is absolutely hypocritical of the NFL to not levy a fine on that play. That hit was the F'n definition of an illegal hit!! No team in the league teaches players to hit like that. You are supposed to have your head up and tackle with your shoulders. Centers not only lead with his helmet aimed it at his head, he intentionally left his feet aiming at his head and sprung himself using his helmet as a weapon. It was clear that his intention wasn't to make a block, but to hurt someone. I lost ALOT of respect for Centers. Not fining him is only saying to other offensive players that because they're not on defense it is okay to do that sort of thing. I have seen suspensions and huge fines levied on players where the hit was accidental!! This is an outrage and unforgivable by the NFL and there is no excuse for it. From their rules on the field to their inconsistant and biased fines on players, the league is an absolute MESS!!! Lates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickblue Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Interesting minutia on the hit by Centers on Trotter... both went to my alma mater... Stephen F. Austin State University in Nacogdoches, TX... I'm sure it is the first time one Lumberjack has laid out the other in an NFL game to that extreme... BTW... also the alma mater of Mark Mosely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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