NoCalMike Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Post-game reports on ESPN 980 are saying Cooley is expected to miss a few more weeks with the sore knee, has it it drained several times, per Shanahan. So it looks like there is a possibility he might not be quite ready Week 1, which will put Fred Davis in the starting spot. We'll see how that goes. I am not a non-believer in Fred Davis by any stretch, but I have not yet seen nearly enough from to to believe he will be ready to step into the starting role and be as productive at Cooley. Careful what you wish for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFISkins Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I'm not sold on his run blocking. And, what is with Sellers moving to TE? Is Young that good leading the RB or has the once Pro Bowl FB dropped in talent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero21 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I mean...we've seen Davis start in place of Cooley before. He did fine. I just think Cooley's a better tight end, and a great locker room guy, so I'd like to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLredskin Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 knee problems??? oh yeah ship him out of here for a 4th....the knee is a tricky thing for athletes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Skins Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I love Cooley, but I'm not as concerned about this as I would have been 3 years ago. Fred Davis is more than capable, and I even like what I see out of Paulsen. Get well Cooley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMeast Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 From what I read earlier the had his knee scoped the day after the season ended because of a meniscus (sp?) tear that dated back to 2005. He also said on The Fan earlier that he could play and practice, but they wanted to make sure they didn't set him back further. HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Sassy Molassy Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I'm not sold on his run blocking. And, what is with Sellers moving to TE? Is Young that good leading the RB or has the once Pro Bowl FB dropped in talent? Sold on whose run blocking? Davis' or Cooley's? They are both notoriously bad blockers, though I will say that watching tonight Fred Davis looked pretty good blocking, at least on one play. The big run that Hightower had, Davis did a great job of locking on to his man and sealing the edge. Young has impressed in camp and the times I paid attention to him in tonight's game he looked very good, also had a great catch and run. I think Sellers' time is up, unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) both Young and Kieland showed a lot of promise at the FB position meanwhile the only time I noticed Sellers was when he got called for a false start, which as the vet offensive player you'd expect him to be more on point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkekoa Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Should have got rid of Cooley sooner. For the guy who hasn't seen enough of Davis to think he can replace Cooley's production...how much more do you need to see? Both suck at blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I hope Fred makes the most of this opportunity. Honestly, I wish we had moved Cooley before last season. *On another note, Sellers is done. Don't see the point of keeping him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Sellers will latch on with another team, and will always be a Redskin to me, but he has been made obsolete by a young draft pick with talent and a drive to succeed. Sellers still has skills, but apparently not as much skill as Young at this stage in each players career. I could see him doing well blocking for another team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 even if Cooley doesn't play, we have Paulsen and Davis to back him up. Sellers is not getting out of training camp which i am very happy about. We have a real battering ram in Darrell Young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashburn Dave Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 The Cooley trade debate is definitely one of the hot topics on ES. He is one of my favorite current players and he is my wife's favorite. Regardless I'm of the mindset that it's what's best for the team not the individual player or fan sentiment. If we can draft a guy in the 3rd round, have him in his prime for 7 years, and then trade him right before his decline for a 3rd round pick (which me might have gotten last year), what is not to like? Fred Davis is more than a capable replacement. Give me Fred Davis and a 3rd round pick any day of the week over a soon to be declining Cooley and a Fred Davis wasting away on the bench. For those that say we need depth at TE so don't trade Cooley it reminds me of the Fantasy Football guy that drafts Aaron Rodgers in the 1st round and then Philip Rivers in the 4th round and says you can't have enough depth at the QB position. Wasted pick IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GO HAMSKINS Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Trade Cools now ! There isn't anything negative that I would have to say about CC as a Skin. He(cc) has been great,but the time is now.We have two nice YOUNG Te's in Davis,and Paulsen.The time to trade Cooley is now,when he's coming to the end of his prime ,but yet he is still good enough for the Skins to be rewarded with a nice compensation in a trade. Davis is young and just as good.FD is coming to the end of his contract as a Redskin.The time to make him the "guy" is this season.Just think about in this way what would any other good team in the NFL like the Pats,PHI,ect. do in our situation ? Answer trade to get younger and more picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty dread Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I'll never understand this trade Cooley BS. He's more valuable to use than the late round pick he would bring in a trade, especially now with a bad knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 The Cooley trade debate is definitely one of the hot topics on ES. He is one of my favorite current players and he is my wife's favorite.Regardless I'm of the mindset that it's what's best for the team not the individual player or fan sentiment. If we can draft a guy in the 3rd round, have him in his prime for 7 years, and then trade him right before his decline for a 3rd round pick (which me might have gotten last year), what is not to like? Fred Davis is more than a capable replacement. Give me Fred Davis and a 3rd round pick any day of the week over a soon to be declining Cooley and a Fred Davis wasting away on the bench. For those that say we need depth at TE so don't trade Cooley it reminds me of the Fantasy Football guy that drafts Aaron Rodgers in the 1st round and then Philip Rivers in the 4th round and says you can't have enough depth at the QB position. Wasted pick IMO. Depends on the Fantasy League. Passing leagues where QB's rack up points,is a great example of having two prime QB's. That way with two elite QB's you get to pick which QB is playing the weaker opponent and stack your line up in that way. Also, what round do you think Tim Hightower is going in drafts this year? There are always going to be options at runningback in late rounds that you can make up your picks on that will pay off down the stretch. Last year I got LT in one of the waay later rounds of a 12 team draft and paid off big time for me. I think he ended the season with better numbers then Greene. Having those late round runningbacks pay off while having two elite QB choices on a weekly basis is paying dividends is the way you win in Fantasy Football. Tim Hightower will be a great late round steal,after what i saw lst night. I think Marshawn Lynch will also be a late round draft pick that pays off nicely this season. Ronnie Brown is going later in drafts too, and I think he will be the starter before the season is over. Sorry, I play a bunch of Fantasy Football leagues for 100 bucks a pop, at the same time. Im in Fantasy Draft mode right now. Related: What does everyone think of that Steelers RB who scored the TD last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuterBanksTarHeel Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 So, let me get this straight: Cooley, who didn't have much trade value before his knee issues, should be traded immediately in some desperate attempt for the team to land a 6th round pick in 2015? He has no trade value. Give it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2STaylor1 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 cooley brings good vet leadership and continuity to our offense which pretty much has a whole new wr corp and backfield...... unless we get something we cant refuse i say we keep him a redskin as long as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashburn Dave Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Depends on the Fantasy League. Passing leagues where QB's rack up points,is a great example of having two prime QB's. That way with two elite QB's you get to pick which QB is playing the weaker opponent and stack your line up in that way. Also, what round do you think Tim Hightower is going in drafts this year? There are always going to be options at runningback in late rounds that you can make up your picks on that will pay off down the stretch. Last year I got LT in one of the waay later rounds of a 12 team draft and paid off big time for me. I think he ended the season with better numbers then Greene. Having those late round runningbacks pay off while having two elite QB choices on a weekly basis is paying dividends is the way you win in Fantasy Football. Tim Hightower will be a great late round steal,after what i saw lst night. I think Marshawn Lynch will also be a late round draft pick that pays off nicely this season. Ronnie Brown is going later in drafts too, and I think he will be the starter before the season is over.Sorry, I play a bunch of Fantasy Football leagues for 100 bucks a pop, at the same time. Im in Fantasy Draft mode right now. Related: What does everyone think of that Steelers RB who scored the TD last night? Sorry, but I run a few leagues for 100 bucks a pop. Your strategy loses. Drafting a stud RB, WR or A.Gates in the 4th round when you already have your QB always wins over the guy that drafts 2 QB's in the first four rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 At this point the team would not get good value for Cooley until his condition is known, basically they must hold onto him this year and get the most out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I've been an advocate of trading Cooley for the past two years, but we wouldn't get anything back for him at this point. If he tears it up this year, then maybe we can re-open the discussion, but there's no point in trading him right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashburn Dave Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I've been an advocate of trading Cooley for the past two years, but we wouldn't get anything back for him at this point. If he tears it up this year, then maybe we can re-open the discussion, but there's no point in trading him right now. This. The time to trade him was last year. Hopefully he can recover from his surgery and give us another great year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntToast Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Dan Snyder sells a half a million Cooley jerseys a year he's, not going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 cooley brings good vet leadership and continuity to our offense which pretty much has a whole new wr corp and backfield...... unless we get something we cant refuse i say we keep him a redskin as long as possible Just to play Devil's Advocate....how do you know he brings veteran leadership? Just because someone has been in the league 5+ years doesn't automatically make them a "leader" in the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Sorry, but I run a few leagues for 100 bucks a pop. Your strategy loses. Drafting a stud RB, WR or A.Gates in the 4th round when you already have your QB always wins over the guy that drafts 2 QB's in the first four rounds. Like i said, I guess its the league you play in. The money I have won tells me you are wrong and re-enforces my opinion, but the scoring for each league is different and I play in multiple types of leagues. With that said, good luck in Fantasy this year, and I hope your QB doesnt get hurt. From my experience, its easier to replace a first/second rd RB and get similer production out of them, then it is to replace that top tier QB and get similer production off of a lesser QB. Serious question though,what do you think of OchoCinco on the Pats this season? A decent #2 reciever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan242 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Davis dropped a huge pass on 3 down in his hands. Cooley catches that. Enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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