NoVaSkins21 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Teams have figured out how to bottle up the blitz that Haslett is sending most of the time which allows them to get chunks of yardage over the middle. The run defense is as bad and probably worse. Opposing OL are just clearing out the guys on defense which is allowing the big runs up the middle. This has been and will continue to be the story as the year goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 We were not 1 player away from Super Bowl contenders. Getting McNabb was getting a QB still in his prime without the growing pains of drafting a QB high who may never pan out to be a good player. If we were going to go for the win now mentality we would have made a stronger player for Vajx among other players. Or perhaps the Redskins realized that they may have made a mistake dealing picks and it's going to take a few years to build into a Super Bowl contender and instead of compounding the problem they decided they needed to keep the picks and hope that what we have gets us through and into the playoffs. It's all conjecture, on your part and mine at this point. And you have a point with the VJax stuff, but I do as well and honestly, since I'm assuming neither of us are apart of the Redskin brass, neither of us have a clue what the real thought process was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 So why trade for him if we didn't want to win now? I don't understand this logic in the least. We can lose with those other guys. Yes, he's an upgrade, I never said he wasn't. I really like McNabb, but not if he was brought in to win in the future. I agree we don't have the pieces to win now, but the point is I'm not sure the coaching staff believed that from the start. Hence the words "High Expectations". Campbell stinks, but Grossman is an upgrade to Campbell as well. And if we planned on being mediocre to bad, we could have used the McNabb 2nd rounder (and third rounder this year) on other draft picks to shore up the rest of the football team. And, we'd be on the road to a 1-15 season. I prefer a stop gap measure until we develop the lines. We're not going to see playoff results until 2012...IF everything (draft, injuries, retirements, etc.) goes well. In the meantime, I enjoy watching a competent head coach after a two year absence. I'm liking the discipline. The game time experience has improved. And, there's hope...something I haven't had in two years. If McNabb beats the Eagles this weekend, the world will be all better again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homercles82 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Teams have figured out how to bottle up the blitz that Haslett is sending most of the time which allows them to get chunks of yardage over the middle. The run defense is as bad and probably worse. Opposing OL are just clearing out the guys on defense which is allowing the big runs up the middle. This has been and will continue to be the story as the year goes on. We are 11th against the run. Our pass defense is what is killing us. Someone posted about how the Rams 3rd down plays were mostly passes for first downs. We are 31st against the pass. Or perhaps the Redskins realized that they may have made a mistake dealing picks and it's going to take a few years to build into a Super Bowl contender and instead of compounding the problem they decided they needed to keep the picks and hope that what we have gets us through and into the playoffs. It's all conjecture, on your part and mine at this point. And you have a point with the VJax stuff, but I do as well and honestly, since I'm assuming neither of us are apart of the Redskin brass, neither of us have a clue what the real thought process was. Your point will be 100% valid if McNabb is not resigned. If we get him for 4 years it is worth the 2 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsCrushCowboys Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Our blitz packages are getting destroyed by the slant pass....teams will continue to do this until we either get better in coverage or more pressure quicker on the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homercles82 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Our blitz packages are getting destroyed by the slant pass....teams will continue to do this until we either get better in coverage or more pressure quicker on the QB. The zones are too soft or our coverage guys are not seeing the plays develop fast enough. I know teams tend to be doing 2 or 3 step drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 We are 11th against the run. They may be 11th against the run, but those TD runs by Jackson and Darby sure made them look worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 And, we'd be on the road to a 1-15 season.I prefer a stop gap measure until we develop the lines. We're not going to see playoff results until 2012...IF everything (draft, injuries, retirements, etc.) goes well. In the meantime, I enjoy watching a competent head coach after a two year absence. I'm liking the discipline. The game time experience has improved. And, there's hope...something I haven't had in two years. If McNabb beats the Eagles this weekend, the world will be all better again. Let's see how we finish this year. But if we finish 5-11, was McNabb really worth it? I'd argue no, partially because I'm not sure he'll want to re-up with a bad team. We gave up draft picks, this year and next and we'd drop draft position. If we win, it's great. So it's a wait and see approach for me. I hope we win. Winning will probably help to keep McNabb here and it just makes me happy. Two birds, one stone. Your point will be 100% valid if McNabb is not resigned. If we get him for 4 years it is worth the 2 picks. My point is valid now. If he doesn't resign we're screwed. I'm using the word "if" for a reason. We don't know. If we get him for 4 years, and he's still effective the trade will be 100% worth it. But my point is extremely valid. I just hope it doesn't become true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsCrushCowboys Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 The zones are too soft or our coverage guys are not seeing the plays develop fast enough. I know teams tend to be doing 2 or 3 step drops. agreed, when we send some of our cover guys on blitz, the guys that are left (3-4) are not reacting fast enough to the quick spant pass and with the 2 step drop we cannot get any pressure on the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastate Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Where are all those guys from week one saying they'd rather have a defense that gives up yards rather than points?? Well now both is happening and the Dallas game is going to go down as a gift from them to us. Never buy into bend don't break defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Where are all those guys from week one saying they'd rather have a defense that gives up yards rather than points?? Well now both is happening and the Dallas game is going to go down as a gift from them to us. Never buy into bend don't break defenses. I'd love a defense that gives up yards but not points. I'd love a defense that doesn't give up yards or points more. Not sure what the point there was. We'd be winning games if we didn't allow points. But we are allowing points and therefore, we're losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Master III Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Who here actually thinks Kedric Golston is better than Albert Haynesworth? *crickets* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Master III Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Kemo, Carriker, and Golston have no business starting over Bryant, Haynesworth, and Daniels..... Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Who here actually thinks Kedric Golston is better than Albert Haynesworth?*crickets* As far as doing his job and attitude and wanting to be here? *raises hand* As far as talent and play in a 4-3 at DT? 92 is hands down better. It depends on your definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iced Coffee Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 If we dont get our act togehter Peyton Manning is going to shred us to pieces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinzfever2010 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 If we dont get our act togehter Peyton Manning is going to shred us to pieces Thats if Landry doesn't kill him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 They may be 11th against the run, but those TD runs by Jackson and Darby sure made them look worse. Which means, take those out as apparitions, and we're actually better against the run than 11th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 agreed, when we send some of our cover guys on blitz, the guys that are left (3-4) are not reacting fast enough to the quick spant pass and with the 2 step drop we cannot get any pressure on the QB. Which means that we need to be able to play press coverage and stall the receivers/throw them off the routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateYanksDukeCowboys Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Schemes don't mean squat if you can't tackle, and this team can't tackle. Save a few like Fletcher and sometimes Landry, this is the worst tackling Redskins team I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Master III Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Kedric Golston is not a starter and would be lucky to be on an NFL roster if he wasn't on the Skins' 53. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinzfever2010 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 D.Hall has looked good tackling this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SellersHappens Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 The only reason we are ranked 11th against the run is that opposing teams don't attempt that many runs against us since they know they can destroy us in the passing game. Michael Vick is going to obliterate us, I fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinzfever2010 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 The only reason we are ranked 11th against the run is that opposing teams don't attempt that many runs against us since they know they can destroy us in the passing game.Michael Vick is going to obliterate us, I fear. I hope LaRon gives him the business and Kolb returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdoublebass Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 It is only 3 weeks and a brand new and we are making a transition to a new 3-4, im sure it will take some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateYanksDukeCowboys Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 I hope LaRon gives him the business and Kolb returns. Laron won't be able to catch Vick. If he couldn't run down a limping Steven Jackson, he most certainly won't be running down Vick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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