StillUnknown Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Where has Crawford been??? He's been receiving limited minutes since the last Spurs game. Crawford threw up a terrible shot, even by his standards, in the NY game and he hasn't seen the court since. On a sidenote, this team has to lead the league in players who start one game, then doesn't play the next. Temple started at shooting guard the past few games while Beal recovered, didn't see the court at all last night. The rotations can't be helping this team. I would imagine its easier to play when you have a general of idea of when you may see the court and who you will be running with. Singleton played somewhat decent ball since returning from the doghouse, was earning consistent minutes the last few games, last night he doesn't even play 2 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jermizzle Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 He's been receiving limited minutes since the last Spurs game. Crawford threw up a terrible shot, even by his standards, in the NY game and he hasn't seen the court since.On a sidenote, this team has to lead the league in players who start one game, then doesn't play the next. Temple started at shooting guard the past few games while Beal recovered, didn't see the court at all last night. The rotations can't be helping this team. I would imagine its easier to play when you have a general of idea of when you may see the court and who you will be running with. Singleton played somewhat decent ball since returning from the doghouse, was earning consistent minutes the last few games, last night he doesn't even play 2 minutes. i agree. thought temple would back up Beal. I was surprised that Booker got that many mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Wall had the worst game I've ever seen him play. Things like that happen. Let's see how he bounces back. SO much overreaction from this fanbase (especially on BF) to his performance from last night. Yes, we know it was bad...but he's been nothing short of amazing as far as gauging his effect on the squad since he returned from injury. *Wale has to be one of the lamest dudes in the music industry. Dude is WAY too sensitive. SMH. Yeah it was a terrible game. And by no coincidence, a whole bunch of people on RealGM are scheming up ways to trade him and others are coming out of the woodwork claiming, "Oh I never really liked him." I think it would be easier for people to realize and accept we've probably got at least 6 more years of Wall ahead of us. The time frame of his development is in that term. What did Wale do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Yeah it was a terrible game. And by no coincidence, a whole bunch of people on RealGM are scheming up ways to trade him and others are coming out of the woodwork claiming, "Oh I never really liked him."I think it would be easier for people to realize and accept we've probably got at least 6 more years of Wall ahead of us. The time frame of his development is in that term. What did Wale do? Wale = SENSITIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Wale = SENSITIVE Yeah that's silly and nothing to get worked up about and it was weak for Wale to walk up and try and talk to him. But that commentator was being a condescending prick. I guess we're spoiled by Phil and Buck. Those Toronto guys seemed awful. I like Boston's crew with Tommy Heinsohn and Mike Gorman too, but I've yet to hear many broadcasting duos as good as Phil and Buck are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBash Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I'm really interested to see how Wall plays next game. He was out of control and trying to force things on his own after things kept getting worse. Amazingly, we only lost by single digits eventhough our leader had the worst game of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) Yeah it was a terrible game. And by no coincidence, a whole bunch of people on RealGM are scheming up ways to trade him and others are coming out of the woodwork claiming, "Oh I never really liked him."I think it would be easier for people to realize and accept we've probably got at least 6 more years of Wall ahead of us. Yeah. I'm one of the people who advocated trading Wall. And basically it's because I don't think he's a franchise player nor do I think he'll ever develop into one. In three years he still has the same weaknesses he had coming out of college: Unable to hit a jumpshot consistently, not that great in the halfcourt, plays out of control etc. Look, I do think he's a "franchise type talent" but I question whether he's actually a "franchise player" So yeah, I'm willing to trade him. Edited February 20, 2013 by BRAVEONAWARPATH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Wale is the man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBash Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 We gotta hit a Paul George type of homerun in the draft this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Yeah. I'm one of the people who advocated trading Wall. And basically it's because I don't think he's a franchise player nor do I think he'll ever develop into one.In three years he still has the same weaknesses he had coming out of college: Unable to hit a jumpshot consistently, not that great in the halfcourt, plays out of control etc. Look, I do think he's a "franchise type talent" but I question whether he's actually a "franchise player" So yeah, I'm willing to trade him. I know you've been consistent in your stance all along. I was talking about the people who were knee jerk posting in reaction to last night's bad game. Trading Wall means you're totally ending the rebuild and starting something new. If you never liked Wall to begin with, I understand wanting to move on. But giving up on ANY rebuild when not even three years have passed would be an irrefutable sign of gross incompetence by a FO IMO. I'd question whether the team had a commitment to winning or understanding of how to build and frankly, I'd consider them no longer worth following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 We gotta hit a Paul George type of homerun in the draft this year. Might not have that pick if we're in the Josh Smith running (which I'm against for various reasons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Bait Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I just read that the Josh Smith sweepstakes is between us, Milwaukee, and NJ. Between these three teams, I'd think NJ would be most likely to land him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I just read that the Josh Smith sweepstakes is between us, Milwaukee, and NJ. Between these three teams, I'd think NJ would be most likely to land him. They are the most likely to be able to pay to keep him. That is probably a big factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) I wouldn't trade Wall unless it was for a top pick and the front office had a point guard in mind to draft. In other words after the lottery when the picks are known. I'd also want something else, potentially a second pick or a good player, as well. Wall isn't nearly as bad as he looked yesterday but he doesn't have an answer for the way they defended him and if he ever got in the playoffs I think teams could shut him down. If the trade made sense I wouldn't advocate it but I could support the reasoning. The problem is that I don't see any PG prospects in this draft that look great and Wittman's "offense" and the current roster depends on a PG. I'd rather he be traded than giving him a max deal though. Giving him a max deal would be a disaster. Edited February 20, 2013 by Destino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBash Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) Damn, the Kings gave up real quick on Thomas Robinson for Patrick Patterson, Cole Adrich, and Tony Douglas. Houston also traded Marcus Morris to his brother's team, Phoenix for a 2nd round pick. I would have given Crawford for Morris since they just lost Tony Douglas. ---------- Post added February-20th-2013 at 08:11 PM ---------- Also, is it still crazy of me to say we got the wrong year to have the number 1 pick? I got eyes rolled at me when I say I'd rather have Rose, Griffin, Irving, or Davis over Wall earlier in the season. I still think Wall can be a borderline allstar/allstar but I'd still rather have one of those 4 #1 overall picks. Edited February 21, 2013 by SuperBash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Damn, the Kings gave up real quick on Thomas Robinson for Patrick Patterson, Cole Adrich, and Tony Douglas. Houston also traded Marcus Morris to his brother's team, Phoenix for a 2nd round pick. I would have given Crawford for Morris since they just lost Tony Douglas. Damn. That was quick. Wish we had gotten in on a TRob deal. I love the move for Houston though. James Harden needs good players around him. They are a Dwight Howard signing away from being a powerful team. If the Sonics... I mean Kings... are looking to fire sale, I would love to get Cousins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Damn, the Kings gave up real quick on Thomas Robinson for Patrick Patterson, Cole Adrich, and Tony Douglas. Houston also traded Marcus Morris to his brother's team, Phoenix for a 2nd round pick. I would have given Crawford for Morris since they just lost Tony Douglas. Damn I'd have taken Morris too... and only a 2nd round pick?! bah. Also, is it still crazy of me to say we got the wrong year to have the number 1 pick? I got eyes rolled at me when I say I'd rather have Rose, Griffin, Irving, or Davis over Wall earlier in the season. I still think Wall can be a borderline allstar/allstar but I'd still rather have one of those 4 #1 over picks. I agree with you. Especially Rose and Irving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Wall was every bit the prospect any one of those guys were, except maybe Davis. Claiming otherwise is hindsight BS. I just think the Wizards are a busch league organization that has had a hard time developing any raw talent. I still think John will be alright though. I think both he and the team are taking a little bit longer to find their way and they basically wasted the first two years of Wall's career. But I think they've finally got something going that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Thomas Robinson was just traded for peanuts. Ernie better be trying to pry Boogie out of Sacto as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I also think the hype on Kyrie has gotten a little out of hand after crossing over Brandon Knight and winning the 3 pt contest, two things that mean precisely jack ****. The ESPN crew actually said he's the best PG 24 and under in the NBA, not Westbrook, and not Rose. That's ****ing ridiculous. Call me when Irving leads his team to a 1 seed and a couple of 50+ win seasons and wins an MVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBash Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Irving is pretty damn special. He looks and plays like a superstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I think it's easier to blame Wall and re-evaluate him in hindsight to say he has worse potential relative to all these other draft picks than it is to really accept the truth that the Wizards are a deeply flawed second rate organization with a loser culture that will never make stars like Rose or Griffin or Irving no matter what kind of talent we stumble into and there is nothing we as fans can do about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBash Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Man, I'd love for Vasquez to be our backup PG. Won't happen because he's gonna get paid once he becomes a FA, probably more than he'll deserve but it sure would be sweet to see a Maryland guy with real talent on the Wizards. Unlike Juan Dixon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Irving is a good player, but I honestly believe that a lot of the hype surrounding him has to do with how Lebron left Cleveland. That city was decimated after his departure. They needed a "savior," and now people/media are being a tad extra when hyping this guy up. I mean, what's the story going to be if he keeps putting up good #'s but the team still sucks? 5.5 assists.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Irving is pretty damn special. He looks and plays like a superstar. He's the flavor of the month. If his team is still losing 70% of their games next season the NBA will move on to the next shiny young star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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