TEK2000 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Look in the mirror, buddy. We were told that getting a bye while backing into the playoffs was just as good as winning a wild card game. Now you guys are thumping your chest because you actually won a playoff game. Which is it? pick a lane and stay in it. Who said those things? Not me. Who is thumping their chest? Not me and not any other Cowboys fan that I see on this forum. I see Cowboys fans that are pleased with the progress we made this season but I don't see anyone acting like we just won the Super Bowl... not even close... that would make the ATN look MUCH different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 You also have to take into account the lack of injuries the pukes enjoyed the entire season. That does not happen very often. The law of averages usually catches up with teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairRedskin Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Who said those things? Not me.Who is thumping their chest? Not me and not any other Cowboys fan that I see on this forum. I see Cowboys fans that are pleased with the progress we made this season but I don't see anyone acting like we just won the Super Bowl... not even close... that would make the ATN look MUCH different. You guys are all yapping about progress. You can't claim progress after having had a 13-3 season with homefield locked up. Aint buying it. You got blown out of the water your last playoff game. Looked like you didn't even belong on the field with the Vikes. At least you were competitive against the Giants. Progress since last year? Marginal. Progress overall since Wade took over. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsunoles0021 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 You guys are all yapping about progress. You can't claim progress after having had a 13-3 season with homefield locked up. Aint buying it. You got blown out of the water your last playoff game. Looked like you didn't even belong on the field with the Vikes. At least you were competitive against the Giants. Progress since last year? Marginal. Progress overall since Wade took over. Nope. Wishful thinking, my friend. I mean, yes we're rivals, but why not look at it objectively? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBurgNGold Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Wishful thinking, my friend. I mean, yes we're rivals, but why not look at it objectively? Okay, you guys finally won a playoff game in 13 years. I guess that is some progress. But judging by those standards, the Raiders are more succesful because they went to the Bowl 8 years ago!! :rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsunoles0021 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Okay, you guys finally won a playoff game in 13 years. I guess that is some progress. But judging by those standards, the Raiders are more succesful because they went to the Bowl 8 years ago!! :rotflmao: What? The Raiders have regressed for nearly a decade now with no signs of life. The Cowboys improved as a team and finally made some big steps. Nobody is saying they are SB champs, it's just a fact that they made some nice steps in 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff in D.C. Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 What? The Raiders have regressed for nearly a decade now with no signs of life. The Cowboys improved as a team and finally made some big steps. Nobody is saying they are SB champs, it's just a fact that they made some nice steps in 2009. Hell your situation was probably better in 03 when you went 10-6 and made the playoffs with Tuna, and it looked like the Turds were on the upswing only for you to go 6-10 in 04, and 9-7 and no playoffs in 05 before rebounding to again make a wc appearance in 06. And that was with Tuna as your coach, not Stay Puft. The bottom line is, Jerrah doesn't know what he's doing, you have a mediocre coach, Romo sits to pee is still a perennial choker in big games, and your team was horribly overrated this year. I bet the Turds don't even make the playoffs next year let alone win a div. round playoff game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsunoles0021 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Hell your situation was probably better in 03 when you went 10-6 and made the playoffs with Tuna, and it looked like the Turds were on the upswing only for you to go 6-10 in 04, and 9-7 and no playoffs in 05 before rebounding to again make a wc appearance in 06. And that was with Tuna as your coach, not Stay Puft.The bottom line is, Jerrah doesn't know what he's doing, you have a mediocre coach, Romo sits to pee is still a perennial choker in big games, and your team was horribly overrated this year. I bet the Turds don't even make the playoffs next year let alone win a div. round playoff game. HAHAHA wow, I'm done with the thread. You've shown your lack of football knowledge if you think the 2003 Cowboys were better than the 2009 Cowboys. Wow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff in D.C. Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 HAHAHA wow, I'm done with the thread. You've shown your lack of football knowledge if you think the 2003 Cowboys were better than the 2009 Cowboys. Wow... :ciao: Keep putting words in my mouth, you're entertaining me. Where did I say the 2003 team was better than the 2009 one? Read this very carefully..... I said the team's situation was better in 2003 then it is now. You had just made the playoffs, Tuna was locked up for a while to mold the team his way, and Jerrah was staying out of the way. HeHateMe even stated that he thought if Tuna had stayed that you would have been in the Super Bowl again by now. Are you going to tell me that you're glad you have Stay Puft as opposed to Tuna? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlass Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Who said those things? Not me.Who is thumping their chest? Not me and not any other Cowboys fan that I see on this forum. I see Cowboys fans that are pleased with the progress we made this season but I don't see anyone acting like we just won the Super Bowl... not even close... that would make the ATN look MUCH different. The 'Girls should have fired Wade. You'll never get to the Superbowl with him. Watch when things go bad he'll start to panic and he'll throw anyone under the bus if it means keeping his job. As a head coach i have no respect for that man. I still remember his two years coaching the Broncos.... oh, he was bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsunoles0021 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 :ciao:Keep putting words in my mouth, you're entertaining me. Where did I say the 2003 team was better than the 2009 one? Read this very carefully..... I said the team's situation was better in 2003 then it is now. You had just made the playoffs, Tuna was locked up for a while to mold the team his way, and Jerrah was staying out of the way. HeHateMe even stated that he thought if Tuna had stayed that you would have been in the Super Bowl again by now. Are you going to tell me that you're glad you have Stay Puft as opposed to Tuna? Parcells was a complete shell of his former self. He was a great personnel guy, but did not have the energy or fire left to be a head coach. He was not the Giants' Parcells by any stretch of the imagination. And, yes, at this point I would rather have Wade. He's a defensive genius and it brings stability where Parcells was like Favre where you never knew if he was going to return. This roster is better at basically every position than the 2003 team. This team won the division and a playoff game, nothing the 2003 team even came close to. This team won big games in December, something the 2003 team couldn't do. Every knew the 2003 team was an overachieving team that benefited from a semi-soft schedule. It is absolutely ludicrous to even suggest the 2003 team was in a better situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VA Cowboy fan Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 The 'Girls should have fired Wade. You'll never get to the Superbowl with him. Watch when things go bad he'll start to panic and he'll throw anyone under the bus if it means keeping his job. As a head coach i have no respect for that man. I still remember his two years coaching the Broncos.... oh, he was bad. Oh now its "never get to the superbowl" with Wade, last year it was the Boys will "never win a playoff game" with Wade.....wow it has to suck to get proven wrong so often.....Why dont you just say the Boys had a pretty good year and move on and lets all see what next year brings when it gets here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Always difficult to predict what will happen. Injuries play such a big part. Your lack of them contributed to puke record. That said, no reason Romo sits to pee won't put up his usual numbers. Austin looks like the real deal and you have one of the best TE's in football. Your defense should be just as good next year since I assume everyone is returning. At least JJ has figured out your possible weakness in your Oline. They will be one year older and stayed healthy pretty much the season. It will be a long year if they can't protect Romo sits to pee. It would force the coordinator to get creative with his game plans which he doesn't appear he is good at. Any coordinator can run an offense when the Oline is protecting the QB and the receivers can get open downfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsunoles0021 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Always difficult to predict what will happen. Injuries play such a big part. Your lack of them contributed to puke record.That said, no reason Romo sits to pee won't put up his usual numbers. Austin looks like the real deal and you have one of the best TE's in football. Your defense should be just as good next year since I assume everyone is returning. At least JJ has figured out your possible weakness in your Oline. They will be one year older and stayed healthy pretty much the season. It will be a long year if they can't protect Romo sits to pee. It would force the coordinator to get creative with his game plans which he doesn't appear he is good at. Any coordinator can run an offense when the Oline is protecting the QB and the receivers can get open downfield. Fair assessment. Discovering that Doug Free can play was huge for this team though. He is young and appears more than capable of replacing Flo. Drafting an additional lineman should definitely be in the gameplan for 2010 draft to help out the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerMuscles Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Fair assessment. Discovering that Doug Free can play was huge for this team though. He is young and appears more than capable of replacing Flo. Drafting an additional lineman should definitely be in the gameplan for 2010 draft to help out the line. ummm, Doug Free is trash. You clearly missed the Vikings game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blue Joe Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 The Cowboys situation only looks good when observed in a vacuum. They gained a HUGE advantage by being the healthiest team in the league. In contrast, the Redskins and Eagles were among the most injured teams. The Giants were middle of the road in terms of health and made the situation worse by hiring an incompetent, bumbling fool to take over for Spags at DC. Everything went the Cowboys way this season, and they still got embarassed in the divisional round. They're going to have a much, much tougher road in 2010. And they now have the worst head coach in the division. Dallasnews.com:More at the link. GAMES LOST BY STARTERS Here is the injury chart for the 2009 NFL season, listing the number of games lost by starters due to injury, the number of starters who finished the season on reserve lists, the number of players who started all 16 games and the key injury. There are 16 possible starts at each of the 22 positions. So the maximum games lost at any one position is 16. For instance, New Orleans left offensive tackle Jammal Brown suffered a season-ending sports hernia in training camp. So that's 16 games off the top. He was replaced in the lineup by Jermon Bushrod, who missed the fourth game of the season with a sprained ankle. But that would not count in the team total because the 16 of Brown are already on the books at the position. To count Bushrod's would be double-counting at a single position. Division champs in CAPS; other playoff teams in bold: Team G/L IR 16G Key injury G COWBOYS 14 0 10 RT Marc Colombo 7 MINNESOTA 16 1 10 CB Antoine Winfield 6 ARIZONA 17 1 11 TE Stephen Spach 5 Denver 17 2 8 RT Ryan Harris 8 NY Jets 18 1 10 DT Kris Jenkins 10 Kansas City 23 1 4 S Jerrad Page 11 Tennessee 24 3 7 OLB David Thornton 5 Baltimore 26 1 10 CB Fabian Washington 6 Tampa Bay 28 1 8 S Jermaine Phillips 14 NEW ENGLAND 34 0 6 LT Matt Light 5 San Francisco 36 1 12 CB Walt Harris 16 Green Bay 40 3 10 C Jason Spitz 11 Atlanta 46 4 10 DT Peria Jerry 14 Miami 48 5 5 QB Chad Pennington 13 Pittsburgh 49 2 12 DE Aaron Smith 11 Chicago 50 4 6 MLB Brian Urlacher 15 NY Giants 51 4 6 S Kenny Phillips 14 Houston 52 6 10 G Chester Pitts 14 Oakland 52 2 8 WR Chaz Schilens 11 SAN DIEGO 54 2 8 NT Jamal Williams 15 Carolina 56 5 7 OLB Thomas Davis 8 Seattle 57 2 6 LT Walter Jones 16 CINCINNATI 59 4 7 TE Reggie Kelly 16 Cleveland 60 7 5 ILB D'Qwell Jackson 10 Washington 61 5 9 G Randy Thomas 14 Detroit 63 5 3 RT Daniel Loper 8 INDIANAPOLIS 63 3 6 WR Anthony Gonzalez 15 NEW ORLEANS 67 3 7 LT Jammal Brown 16 Philadelphia 70 3 8 MLB Stewart Bradley 16 Jacksonville 71 5 8 DE Reggie Hayward 15 St. Louis 75 6 5 DT Adam Carriker 16 Buffalo 103 8 6 CB Leodis McKelvin 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlass Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Oh now its "never get to the superbowl" with Wade, last year it was the Boys will "never win a playoff game" with Wade.....wow it has to suck to get proven wrong so often.....Why dont you just say the Boys had a pretty good year and move on and lets all see what next year brings when it gets here Ok he won a playoff game. "You guys RULE!":dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 The bottom line is......your team was horribly overrated this year. Jeff, in a good number of your posts, you talk about how much more Wade should have done with "all of the talent the Cowboys have." Here, you say "the Cowboys were horribly overrated." Which is it? At least be consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Really it comes down to this: The Cowboys exceeded most expectation of them this year. only 8 teams progressed as far as they did, and only 4 teams had flat out "better" seasons. They're a good team with most of their skill players and defense under 30, so they look like they should be contenders again next year. They do have problems on the offensive line where age has become an issue, they lack a sure replacement for Flozell Adams at LT and they are not a great pass blocking team, much of which is covered up by Romo sits to pee's pocket presence and elusiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlass Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Really it comes down to this: The Cowboys exceeded most expectation of them this year. only 8 teams progressed as far as they did, and only 4 teams had flat out "better" seasons. They're a good team with most of their skill players and defense under 30, so they look like they should be contenders again next year. They do have problems on the offensive line where age has become an issue, they lack a sure replacement for Flozell Adams at LT and they are not a great pass blocking team, much of which is covered up by Romo sits to pee's pocket presence and elusiveness. Going into the Playoffs EVERYONE was saying they were the best team. They were favored by a point at Minnesota. At the beginning of the year nobody was counting on the Cowboys because of the "Choke" Factor. Then they had everyone convinced only to choke.... again. Different year, same Cowboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Going into the Playoffs EVERYONE was saying they were the best team. They were favored by a point at Minnesota. At the beginning of the year nobody was counting on the Cowboys because of the "Choke" Factor. Then they had everyone convinced only to choke.... again. Different year, same Cowboys. People were saying they were the hottest team, not the best. Against MN they were holding their own and moving the ball until Flozell went down, at which point it turned into an old fashioned beat down. A choke job implies losing to an inferior team, which isn't what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsunoles0021 Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 ummm, Doug Free is trash. You clearly missed the Vikings game... I guess you didn't tune in, unless you're thinking of Colombo. Colombo was absolutely beaten like a rented mule. Colombo put forth one of the worst performances I've ever seen from an OL. Free wasn't bad at all against the Vikings, all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEK2000 Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 I guess you didn't tune in, unless you're thinking of Colombo. Colombo was absolutely beaten like a rented mule. Colombo put forth one of the worst performances I've ever seen from an OL. Free wasn't bad at all against the Vikings, all things considered. Definitely the worst performance Colombo has ever had for us. He's usually a very good player for us.. a very consistent player... he just had one AWFUL day that day. Slow out of his stance, didn't keep his feet moving as he engaged Ray Edwards, and wasn't quick enough in dropping back to force Edwards too deep to make a play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlass Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 People were saying they were the hottest team, not the best. Against MN they were holding their own and moving the ball until Flozell went down, at which point it turned into an old fashioned beat down. A choke job implies losing to an inferior team, which isn't what happened. Inferior teams choke all the time. That's part of the reason they are inferior. Dallas was favored going in to Minnesota. Thus Vegas and betters thought they were better. I listen to ESPN radio all morning and a lot of thoise guys and there guests were saying Dallas was the best team in the NFC, Like you said they were the hottest, but I guess that counts for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VA Cowboy fan Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 But wait...all everyone talked about during training camp was how soft Wade ran his camp etc.....but in doing so the players stayed healthly all year......I'm not sure but I think that might be a clue for other teams....maybe camp cupcake is the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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