scruffylookin Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 In the past I have been against bringing in a former Super Bowl winner here because history has shown that they don't have the same fire and spark to win it again in their new city. Shanahan bringing in his son and grooming him does provide an X factor for me though. I very much could see Shanahan get energized and passionate about winning a Super Bowl, like he was 15 years ago, with his son reportedly on the staff and then handing over the reigns to him in 5 or 6 years (however long this rebuild is going to take). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 In the past I have been against bringing in a former Super Bowl winner here because history has shown that they don't have the same fire and spark to win it again in their new city.Shanahan bringing in his son and grooming him does provide an X factor for me though. I very much could see Shanahan get energized and passionate about winning a Super Bowl, like he was 15 years ago, with his son reportedly on the staff and then handing over the reigns to him in 5 or 6 years (however long this rebuild is going to take). The other thing I like hearing about Shanahan is that he has spent this season studying other teams trying to get better. This is a guy who wants to win and isn't afraid to change something to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM916 Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 no one has won with 2.... but we love to break SB barriers in DC (black QB, 3 different QBs/RBs for one coach) Thanks, that gives me the slightest bit of hope. I'm still going into any super bowl appearance expecting to lose though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkskin Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 None have ever won a SB with different teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManleyMann7271 Posted January 4, 2010 Author Share Posted January 4, 2010 Is this supposed to be an argument against Shanahan? If so, it's not a very good one.Dungy turned Tampa into a contender, then turned Indy into a contender. A great coach can change the culture of a team. Whether he gets us to the Super Bowl or not, Shanahan will instill a winning culture here. The Redskins winning culture ended in 1992. Time to bring it back. Once we are a consistent winner, we'll worry about getting a championship. No, I was curious if it had been done before. If you want me to make an argument against Shanahan, I can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 who can name quarterbacks that have led two different teams to superbowls? warner is the only one i can think of thats been to the big dance wearing two different uniforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 vermele and shula lost the SB - then took a 2nd team to the SB and won holmgren and parcels wont the SB - then took a 2nd team to the SB and lost noone has ever won a sb, then changed teams, them won a 2nd SB. hell, the list of coaches who have won SB's with different QB's is small too. just something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Here is a thread from a couple weeks ago discussing the same thing: http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=311246 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManleyMann7271 Posted January 4, 2010 Author Share Posted January 4, 2010 Weeb Eubanks won NFL Championship Coltswon SB III Jets Nice Work!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 NO ONE has ever won with two different teams... only ONE coach has won a Super Bowl with either three different QBs or three different RBs... and his coach did it with both... his name? JOE JACKSON GIBBS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 who can name quarterbacks that have led two different teams to superbowls?warner is the only one i can think of thats been to the big dance wearing two different uniforms. Just think... Kurt Warner and Mark Brunell were both available... our scouting department recommended Brunell to Gibbs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffylookin Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 who can name quarterbacks that have led two different teams to superbowls?warner is the only one i can think of thats been to the big dance wearing two different uniforms. I cheated and checked Wikipedia, other than Warner there has only been one QB to have done that in the Super Bowl era. Craig Morton was the Cowboys starting QB in 1970 and lost SB 5 to the Colts. He was also the Broncos quarterback in 1977 and lost SB 12 to the Cowboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 who can name quarterbacks that have led two different teams to superbowls?warner is the only one i can think of thats been to the big dance wearing two different uniforms. Craig Morton, who vied with Staubach before coach Landry finally saw sense, started SB V for Dallas, and SBXII for Denver, ironically when Roger got his revenge for Morton getting the nod in SB V. Ahh, the joys of partnering a Cowgirl. . Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabee1973 Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Weeb Uebank is the last coach top win a championship with 2 different teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirClintonPortis Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 They never won. He could leave a good team behind though...better than what Gibbs left behind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Chaos47 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 No coach has ever won with different teams but these went with seperate teams. Don Shula, Colts & Miami Bill Parcells, Giants & Patriots Dick Vermeil, Eagles & Rams Dan Reeves, Broncos & Falcons Mike Holmgren, Packers & Seahawks Dick Vermeil has been quoted as saying Mike Shanahan is the best coach he's ever coached against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 The tougher question is what HC has won a Super Bowl and then won it with a different team. We know that Shula, Holmgren, Reeves, Vermeil have all probably lead teams to the Super Bowl after leading a different team, Parcells has too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSkin Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 George Seiftert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stat2883 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 who can name quarterbacks that have led two different teams to superbowls? Earl Morrall, colts and dolphins....kind of anyway. He took over for Unitas due to injury and lost in SB3 - later won after taking over for Unitas again in SB 5. He was picked up by Shula in '72 and took over for Griese due to injury as well, however Griese got his job back in the paloffs....so Morrall did have a hand in leading them by winning more than half their games in their undefeated season, but did not actually appear in the '72 super bowl. He was also on the team for the '73 season, but played sparingly and again didn't see the field for SB8. He got 3 rings in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManleyMann7271 Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 They never won. He could leave a good team behind though...better than what Gibbs left behind... I think Gibbs left behind a pretty good team, and if it were not for Ceratto and Synder messing things up, it would be more apparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManleyMann7271 Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 Is this supposed to be an argument against Shanahan? If so, it's not a very good one.Dungy turned Tampa into a contender, then turned Indy into a contender. A great coach can change the culture of a team. Whether he gets us to the Super Bowl or not, Shanahan will instill a winning culture here. The Redskins winning culture ended in 1992. Time to bring it back. Once we are a consistent winner, we'll worry about getting a championship. Well there is someone that apparently thinks this IS a good argument against Shanny. Where was this guy last week? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/community/groups/index.html?plckForumPage=Forum&plckForumId=Cat:a70e3396-6663-4a8d-ba19-e44939d3c44fForum:287148f9-2a17-42f1-bff5-844a5a09f2d3&plckCategoryCurrentPage=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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