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At the November 10, 1997, game against the San Francisco 49ers, featuring a fan with a flare gun, a large brawl on an upper level, and an Eagles fan being mauled because his friend was wearing a New York Giants jacket; all leading to six arrests and 269 ejections from the stadium, as well as a ban on beer sales for the remainder of the season and the introduction of the famous "Eagles Court" in the stadium's basement

Wait a second, I was just told that the jail was put into the stadium on purpose for intimidation of opposing teams? Oh you mean it was put in this stadium (and ONLY this stadium) because these animals started a mini-war in the middle of a football game because someone wore a blue jacket? Oh, well, that certainly shows how fecals fans are just like everyone else's. When is our jail coming?

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-Bounty Bowl parts I and II, especially II where a barrage of snowballs and batteries from the stands forced police to escort Dallas Cowboys head coach Jimmy Johnson, off the field.

-At the November 10, 1997, game against the San Francisco 49ers, featuring a fan with a flare gun, a large brawl on an upper level, and an Eagles fan being mauled because his friend was wearing a New York Giants jacket; all leading to six arrests and 269 ejections from the stadium, as well as a ban on beer sales for the remainder of the season and the introduction of the famous "Eagles Court" in the stadium's basement

-Pelting Santa with snowballs

-Cheering the Michael Irving career-ending injury

And of course, there were the "few drunk" Eagle fans who beat Chief Zee to within an inch of his life in Philly back in the day.

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So right there, i count Bounty bowls I, II, the 49ers game, and the beat up of Cheif Z Terrible incidents.

Pelting Santa with snoballs is the most widely know, yet most don't know the details on the actual situation. Wiki says booing the Easter Bunny - oh who friggin cares?

And cheering Michael Irvin, i don't give a rats A** because the guy got away with 92 million things, including attempted murder, and it was swept under the rug.

I dont understand how ESPN and NFL Network allowed him to be hired.

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Why? Why is the fanbase not great, and I can't separate the people who take it too far.

To me, and many, those aren't "Fans", they are people who go looking for trouble, and not for the event.

A "few"? Cmon. Really? Are you really going with that? Seriously? When you get home take a look at this video man. Look at the moron who posted it with the comments "hell yea, this is what happens when you come into our house". Look at the hundred or so people just in ONE section of this stadium, just last week, just at one game, throwing iceballs at two defenseless people just for wearing a white jersey. Its disgusting. And its not a few man. Its just not. Its the MAJORITY. I lived there for 12 years. I am not someone who doesn't know. You can't lie to me about this. I have been there. I went to every eagles/skins game at the vet/stink between 1999 and 2008. They are animals and you know it. We aren't talking about a "few" rogue fans man. They don't create a court system within the stadium for a "few" fans. They don't suspend beer sales for a "few" fans. They don't do these things for even a "few" incidents. They do it for a pattern of drunk violence perpetrated by a large group of human beings who don't know how to behave with other human beings.

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-Bounty Bowl parts I and II, especially II where a barrage of snowballs and batteries from the stands forced police to escort Dallas Cowboys head coach Jimmy Johnson, off the field.

-At the November 10, 1997, game against the San Francisco 49ers, featuring a fan with a flare gun, a large brawl on an upper level, and an Eagles fan being mauled because his friend was wearing a New York Giants jacket; all leading to six arrests and 269 ejections from the stadium, as well as a ban on beer sales for the remainder of the season and the introduction of the famous "Eagles Court" in the stadium's basement

-Pelting Santa with snowballs

-Cheering the Michael Irving career-ending injury

And of course, there were the "few drunk" Eagle fans who beat Chief Zee to within an inch of his life in Philly back in the day.

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So right there, i count Bounty bowls I, II, the 49ers game, and the beat up of Cheif Z Terrible incidents.

Pelting Santa with snoballs is the most widely know, yet most don't know the details on the actual situation. Wiki says booing the Easter Bunny - oh who friggin cares?

And cheering Michael Irvin, i don't give a rats A** because the guy got away with 92 million things, including attempted murder, and it was swept under the rug.

I dont understand how ESPN and NFL Network allowed him to be hired.

Let's hear the "details" that made that behavior cool. Because he was drunk and did a crappy job of being a santa? He was an eagles fan himself of couse he was drunk! That's what they are good at. Getting drunk and violent. That's who they are. And because Irving was a jerk it was cool to boo him while he lay there with what appeared to be a serious neck injury? I won't get into that because I happen to agree with you that booing is not what I am talking about. This thread started because of video tape of physical violence toward opposing fans for being opposing fans. You didn't watch the video and have come in here defending the fan base.

You have tried to call them a "few" fans when the video shows over a hundred people doing it at one game.

You have denied the physical violence as media distortions and someone called you out with half a dozen documented instances of physical violence by fans of that team that was so notorious that it mandated its own judicial system inside that stadium and ONLY that stadium. You and some of the other people trying to defend this fan base's strongest argument so far is that the skins are having a bad year. The behavior of this fanbase is inexcusable. By all means keep trying though.

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So right there, i count Bounty bowls I, II, the 49ers game, and the beat up of Cheif Z Terrible incidents.

Pelting Santa with snoballs is the most widely know, yet most don't know the details on the actual situation. Wiki says booing the Easter Bunny - oh who friggin cares?

And cheering Michael Irvin, i don't give a rats ***(edited so I don't get accused of circumventing the profanity filter-GOS) because the guy got away with 92 million things, including attempted murder, and it was swept under the rug.

I dont understand how ESPN and NFL Network allowed him to be hired.

-Well I left out booing the Easter bunny because I agree, who gives a **** about booing the Easter bunny. In fact, why the hell was the Easter bunny even AT a football game since the 2 never overlap?

-Michael Irving is an ******* who got away with with far too much illegal activity because of who he played for. Nevertheless it's classless to cheer as any player is getting carted off the field on a stretcher who might be paralyzed. But he does suck as a commentator. He got hired the same reason Emmitt Smith did: the media loves them some Cowboys no matter how much they might suck at being on TV.

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At the end of the day its tough to talk abotu a "fan base" without insulting the exceptions. The guys posting in here generally are not the people I am talking about. I think their defense of their fanbase is misplaced but obviously, there are exceptions and you have to make sterotypes and generalizations when talking about something as intangible as a "fanbase". I mean no disrespect to the INDIVIDUALS here in the forum. The "fanbase" as a whole is disgusting in my opinion.

This means alot.....thanks dude....

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Actually, my point is that this happens in every stadium, yet, it is only talked about when Philadelphia does it. When the Raiders fans dump beer on women and children, nothing gets talked about.....When a Ravens fan is verbally attacked and has half eaten food thrown at him in Pittsburgh, nothing is said about it....yet, when snowballs, not bullets or knives or food or beer, but childish snowballs....everyone is up in arms....

Did you see how many snowballs were thrown at them? It was absolutely ridiculous. I'd rather have a beer thrown at me than get pelted with snow balls nonstop by hundreds of people. Those people couldn't even watch the game they were getting absolutely pelted. Yes, snowballs are soft. I buy that argument if it was only a few of them. But to have that many thrown at you nonstop is pretty terrible.

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Did you see how many snowballs were thrown at them? It was absolutely ridiculous. I'd rather have a beer thrown at me than get pelted with snow balls nonstop by hundreds of people. Those people couldn't even watch the game they were getting absolutely pelted. Yes, snowballs are soft. I buy that argument if it was only a few of them. But to have that many thrown at you nonstop is pretty terrible.

The 3 minute or whatever clip was literally the only time in the game that more then a few snowballs were thrown. 99% of all the snowballs in the stadium were thrown in a 5 minute or so span. Not excusing that just saying that it wasn't like that was happening the entire game.

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Classic Extremeskins I tell ya.

First off - Brotherz - seriously man - grammar, punctuation, and spelling. Get to know them my friend. Your posts hurt to read.

Brotherz - question for you... and please be honest here... how many games have you personally attended in Philadelphia?

Second off - 2 more pages of generalization posts by Skins fans after my post, yet not ONE poster even acknowledged the 2 articles that point out the exact same behavior by Skins fans.

Same thing for years - like I've said, I've been in a few of these debates and it always seems that Skins fans duck anything that looks bad on their peers and just keep on swiping at the canvas w/ that big 'ol brush.

superozman - I like your style man. Nice posts.

And I think I read something about the Santa booing in here - not sure as I just glossed over most of the same old tired retreaded arguments from Skins fans... hey, do you want to know something really interesting about that game?

The fans of the Eagles came out on a cold snowy wintery day to support their.... ready for this - 2-11 Eagles... yes, that is 2 wins and 11 losses... and get this, the attendance that day at Franklin Field was 54,535... the stadium at max capacity held ~60K... so on a cold wintery day in Philly - for a 2-11 team - when some fans booed Santa - the stadium was almost 90% sold out with Philly fans.

I don't care what team you root for - that is damn impressive. I've been to Skins games at FedEx - when your team still had playoff chances that had less % of "Skins" fans.

Hell - the game at FedEx is easier to get tickets to EVERY YEAR than any game up in Philly.

How many of you have your Ravens gear out and ready by now?

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Philly fans can't talk their way out of this argument, its in your nature... Just trash plain and simple..

http://www.the700level.com/2009/05/metsphillies-rivalry-already-turned-ugly.html

"I didn't see the incident occur, but the story that spread through our section was that he was hit on the head with a glass bottle."

Guess I missed your post which addressed my link to an ESPN Outside the Lines episode which dealt with an Eagles fan needing 3 hours of facial reconstruction surgery after being beaten by Redskins fans. Or did you address that?

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That's actually a great idea, they at least have a Super Bowl win.........

Merry Christmas everyone!!!!

Right on cue - duck the issue. I'm sorry, was this thread devoted to SB wins?

Bring it man - I'm in a festive mood and have time to kill today. Care to actually engage in a discussion and actually address any of the points I've made ?

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Again - is there one single Redskins fan that can read the two articles I posted - just a few pages back in this thread - and give me one credible or even remotely close to an articulated response?

Seriously.. where is tr1 or Art when I need them for crying out loud.... ... at least I remember them trying.

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There are degenerates in every fan base. I will concede there are probably more in the Philly fan base because there is a segment of society who absolutely revels in the Philly aura of being a degenerate. I hate these scumbags more than you guys do. However, the mock indignation and the burying of the head of some of the opposing fans here is laughable.

You have scumbags in your fanbases. If it were more acceptable and even part of the culture of your stadium, you'd have more scumbags acting out. To think bad behavior is indigenous to the people of Philadelphia is pretty stupid. There have been well documented incidents in every stadium in the NFL. When DeSean Jackson scored in NY, two beer bottles were thrown at him from the stands. Barely a blip on the NFL radar. If that happened in Philly, there would be a 6 page thread on Extremeskins with the video posted.

If you guys sleep better at night thinking there is just a more wholesome human quotient in DC, have at it. I think deep down we all know that there are thugs who probably don't even like football but love trouble in every city.

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These threads are always fun. I just read the entire thread. There is always one Skins fan who is way over the top in his hatred of all things Philly. Brotherz fits the bill here.

It isn't enough that we all decry the actions of the scumbags in the video. We all also recognize there are scumbags in our fanbase. No, that is not enough. It's as if these fans must have blood. We must cut our wrists or die on a cross in order to properly atone for the fact that we follow the Philadelphia Eagles.

Brotherz says everyone is delusional because they don't believe the majority of Eagles fans are no good pieces of excrement. Seriously? Who is delusional? I don't know whether to laugh at you or pity you for honestly believing this.

The majority of fans are the people posting in this thread. We are level headed, know scum when we see it, and hate the minority of fans who aren't really fans but are trouble makers looking for a venue.

Much like you in this thread. A trouble maker who found a venue. The only difference is the brand of trouble you are making is continually making yourself look like a fool who is bitter at the world and doesn't believe Denial is not just a river.

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Hey look - another snowball fight at an NFL game... Redskins @ Giants... hmmmm... how can this be - the Eagles fans aren't there.

Anyone... anyone ? Don't take your ball and go home now.... if you want to spout your generalizations then come out and lets play..

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=24184922

ROFLMAO.

Seriously? You think those two videos are even close? Did you even read the description of the video?

"Description:

Kid taunts crowd with a tony Romo sits to pee jersey and gets creamed by fans with snowballs including one in the eye"

So giants and Skins fans throw snowballs at someone taunting them, with a Romo sits to pee jersey, and the person is clearly throwing snowballs back. Not someone sitting down minding their own business getting obliterated by an entire section.

Congratulations, you dug up a story of Skins fans assaulting someone, how many stories of eagles fans do you think could be found if people took 5 minutes to google eagles fan incidents? Your argument is the same one I mentioned where you try to validate the actions of THE MAJORITY or your fans base by equating it to the shady 5% of every other fanbase.

Nothing we are saying about philly fans negates what happened to the guy at Fed Ex in the story you posted. Nothing. Skins fans are on the hook for it even if not every Skins fan took part in the incident. It reflects badly on the fanbase. But Skins fans can still say that is an isolated incident, can you say assaults in philly against other fans is isolated? I doubt it. But of course, to you that story makes everything philly fans do "ok" cause "it happened at least once in your fanbases history" right?

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Hey look - another snowball fight at an NFL game... Redskins @ Giants... hmmmm... how can this be - the Eagles fans aren't there.

Anyone... anyone ? Don't take your ball and go home now.... if you want to spout your generalizations then come out and lets play..

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=24184922

those looks like fans from each side with even numbers having fun.

30 eagles fan vs 2 49ers fans not participating isn't even CLOSE to that. not to mention the guy 3 feet from him throwing them in his face.

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