deejaydana Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Link: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/10/the_skins_and_the_30-point_bar.html Maybe this isn't completely eye-opening but check out where we are on this list (scroll to bottom). Not exactly great company we're in here. I'm definitely veering unpleasantly toward the pit of negativity. I'm gonna try to work on that. Negativity has never been my shtick. Still, I thought these numbers were worth posting. Avert your eyes if you'd rather enjoy the beautiful sunlight. As has oft been mentioned, the Campbell-Zorn team has never combined on a 30-point game. In fact, the last time the Redskins reached that meaningless 30-point threshold, Todd Collins and Joe Gibbs were at the helm. Now, before we get into the numbers, a bunch of caveats. You play to win the game, not to score 30 points. You can score 38 and lose, and fans would rather have two points and a win. Many teams reach 30 with the help of defensive touchdowns, which says nothing about their quarterback or offensive leaders. Other teams reach 30 with the aid of overtime, which isn't necessarily a good thing. And, above all, to repeat myself, 30 points does not mean anything in and of itself; it's just an arbitrary, juicy, pleasing but ultimately meaningless number. All that being said, over the 2008 and first quarter of the 2009 seasons, only two NFL teams have failed to score 30 points: the Redskins (who have gone 10-10 in that span) and the Lions (who have gone 1-19 in that span). (The Lions' drought streak is longer by seven weeks, if you go back to the '07 season.) In some ways, this is incredibly impressive to the Skins, and speaks to the strength of their defense and their ability to win close, low-scoring games. At the same time, just for a change, it might be nice to see a 37-point outburst. (In Tampa's previous five games before meeting the Skins, the Bucs were allowing an average of 32.6 points, with four of their five opponents reaching the 30-point mark. The Redskins, of course, got to 16.) So, if you're curious, here are the total number of games NFL teams have reached the 30-point threshold since the start of the 2008 regular season. Postseason games are not included in this list. 1. New Orleans 10 2t. Arizona 8 2t. Baltimore 8 2t. Indy 8 2t. New York Giants 8 2t. Philadelphia 8 7t. Carolina 7 7t. San Diego 7 7t. Tennessee 7 10t. Dallas 6 10t. Minnesota 6 10t. New England 6 13t. Atlanta 5 13t. Buffalo 5 13t. Denver 5 13t. Green Bay 5 13t. New York Jets 5 13t. Pittsburgh 5 19t. Houston 4 19t. Jacksonville 4 19t. San Fran 4 22t. Chicago 3 22t. Kansas City 3 22t. Miami 3 22t. Seattle 3 22t. Tampa Bay 3 27t. Cleveland 2 27t. Oakland 2 29t. Cincinnati 1 29t. St. Louis 1 31t. Detroit 0 31t. Washington 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike21 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Well damn.....can't say I'm not surprised....at this point I just want to get 20!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 We dont need to score 30 pts.. All we need to do is score more pts than the opponent and usually that means about 18-24 pts a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcarey032 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 It has been this way ever since Norv Turner left town. When Norv was here we could score points, but we couldn't stop anyone. Then we decided to get Marty and we had a bunch of baseball scores. Then we got spurrier who had Marvin Lewis as the D-coordinator and he could stop people,but he couldn't get points which was supposed to be his area of expertise. We brought back Gibbs and he couldn't score points and even brought in Al Saunders and his 700 page playbook to score which did zero. Now we have Zorn who was telling us that the West Coast offense had moved east, but too bad that didn't end up here in Washington. Our offense has been bad for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 30 point barrier? I'm more concerned with the 20 point barrier which we have failed to break this season against three of the worst teams in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 30 point barrier? I'm more concerned with the 20 point barrier which we have failed to break this season against three of the worst teams in the NFL. Yeah. I thought the title of this article was off by a digit in the 10's column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 that's pretty depressing. i just care about Ws though. it just goes to show how many more wins we would have if we could just get some points on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Most of those teams have scored 30 more than we have scored 20. Epecially since after our first 5 games of last year. We haven't done jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 We brought back Gibbs and he couldn't score points and even brought in Al Saunders and his 700 page playbook to score which did zero. Actually, when Gibbs adjusted his offense (and the run blocking) and Mark Brunell was healthy for that brief run in 2005---we were fine offensively. We had a few bad games where I think Joe's conservative nature held us back and cost us some Ws but at least we were capable of blowing up and scoring 20+ points. Saunders offense was fine. The problem was Joe never agreed to start Collins from 2006 onwards. Had we done that, we'd have several 30+ point games. Not necessarily 1991'in it up, but enough to satisfy. Some of this is on Zorn but there's a lot on a particular player who leaves big plays no the field and costs the team points (not just from his turnovers either.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito-01 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 It has been this way ever since Norv Turner left town. When Norv was here we could score points, but we couldn't stop anyone. Then we decided to get Marty and we had a bunch of baseball scores. Then we got spurrier who had Marvin Lewis as the D-coordinator and he could stop people,but he couldn't get points which was supposed to be his area of expertise. We brought back Gibbs and he couldn't score points and even brought in Al Saunders and his 700 page playbook to score which did zero. Now we have Zorn who was telling us that the West Coast offense had moved east, but too bad that didn't end up here in Washington. Our offense has been bad for a long time. True dhat! Say what you may of Norv. The guy knows his offense ... and, we did well offensively when he was here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gart Monk Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 It has been this way ever since Norv Turner left town. When Norv was here we could score points, but we couldn't stop anyone. Then we decided to get Marty and we had a bunch of baseball scores. Then we got spurrier who had Marvin Lewis as the D-coordinator and he could stop people,but he couldn't get points which was supposed to be his area of expertise. We brought back Gibbs and he couldn't score points and even brought in Al Saunders and his 700 page playbook to score which did zero. Now we have Zorn who was telling us that the West Coast offense had moved east, but too bad that didn't end up here in Washington. Our offense has been bad for a long time. Snyder is the only constant through this whole mess. Who would have ever thought that the Norv Turner era would be the last "good ol days":doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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