mdboost Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/09/23/which-quarterbacks-hold-the-ball-too-long/ You may be able to guess where Jason lands on this list. He needs to react faster. Taking way too much time. The article says: in general if a quarterback holds the ball for more than three seconds, he's in troubleJason needs to work on this. You'd think he would have learned by now to be faster. All this talk about the second year in the offense, but same result on the scoreboard, same result with the receivers, and same result with holding onto the ball too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsdude Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Yet another reason that Zorn doesn't want Jason to throw the ball in the red zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Yet another reason that Zorn doesn't want Jason to throw the ball in the red zone. ok man. lets keep running left and getting stopped. then call hb passes on 3rd down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 People say Big Ben hold onto the ball for far too long...seems to work out well for him. I'd say the Steelers OL might be worse than ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvtbred Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 This is VERY interesting especially with how people call Leftwich slow. HOLDING ON The 10 quarterbacks who have held the ball the longest on their sacks Quarterback Average Time Of Sack No. of Sacks Jason Campbell 3.66 3 Tom Brady 3.6 1 Jay Cutler 3.51 3 Mark Sanchez 3.51 2 Brady Quinn 3.29 9 Kyle Orton 3.27 3 Trent Edwards 3.26 6 JaMarcus Russell 3.22 3 Chad Pennington 3.2 6 Kurt Warner 3.07 3 GETTING RID OF IT The 10 quarterbacks who have held the ball the shortest on their sacks Quarterback Average Time Of Sack No. of Sacks Byron Leftwich 2.09 2 Tony Romo sits to pee 2.1 1 Peyton Manning 2.29 2 Marc Bulger 2.46 4 Carson Palmer 2.47 5 Joe Flacco 2.52 2 Matt Stafford 2.53 3 Matt Schaub 2.6 2 Matt Ryan 2.62 2 Brodie Croyle 2.62 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 ^^^link??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvtbred Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 ^^^link??? Did you actually read the first post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Wow, its pretty bad when Palmer gets sacked 5 times at about 2 seconds, lol. Campbell wouldnt even be looking off his first read at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Did you actually read the first post? my bad i didn't click the link, just read the quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBnotBlades Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 That's pretty interesting, and it supports what most of us realize while watching the games. That being said, a sample size of 3 means it's not even close to statistically significant and it's hard to take this seriously until much later in the season, but I'll definitely keep my eye on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmySmith Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 This stat also disproves, at least in part, the assertion that our offensive line is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 This stat also disproves, at least in part, the assertion that our offensive line is the problem. so you are saying we have a steller o-line and there is absolutely no possiblity that campbell buys himself more time with his feet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsdude Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 This stat also disproves, at least in part, the assertion that our offensive line is the problem. Correct. The O-line has been doing a good job thus far. Even the best offensive line can't hold back a pass rush forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefinonhaze Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Jason has a much quicker release this year. Just watch his highlights from the Rams game http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=300074 The ball is almost always out in 3 seconds. On a couple plays, he even throws the ball after 1 second of the snap, like on the slant to Cooley for a first down. The plays where he holds the ball 4-5 seconds(which isn't even that long considering Eli gets 7 seconds sometimes from his beast line), Campbell scrambles for a long run. Yes, early in his career he held the ball a little long. Could that be because he's in a different offense every year? I'd say so. When you have to know where every player is on a given play, and if your still learning the plays, you might be hesitant on a guys position before you throw it. If you also have 2 rookie WR's out there, and no true #1, that may cause you to hold the ball longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsdude Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 ok man. lets keep running left and getting stopped. then call hb passes on 3rd down. No, lets not. Lets just get a competent quarterback that the coach has confidence in. Then we can pass on first down in the red zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaimeDeCurry Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 It's interesting that people are harping on Campbell for being number one on that list, when guess who's at number two? Now that being said, it is true that most of the time when Campbell gets sacked it's because he held on too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvtbred Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 It's interesting that people are harping on Campbell for being number one on that list, when guess who's at number two?Now that being said, it is true that most of the time when Campbell gets sacked it's because he held on too long. It does help the oline's case though don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvtbred Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 my bad i didn't click the link, just read the quote No prob I have done it before too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmySmith Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 so you are saying we have a steller o-line and there is absolutely no possiblity that campbell buys himself more time with his feet?Perhaps my memory fails, but I cannot remember a sack where Campbell was buying time with his feet. In fact, I cannot remember a play where Campbell has bought time with his feet. I remember runs, yes, but not a scramble that has resulted in a sack or a pass, completed or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 No, lets not. Lets just get a competent quarterback that the coach has confidence in. Then we can pass on first down in the red zone. how about some competent players that catch the ball? or is the qb supposed to do that too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Really, all this says is that when he gets sacked, it is because he held onto the ball too long. It doesn't say anything about his general tendencies, especially with only 3 sacks to draw upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianm23 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Yes, early in his career he held the ball a little long. Could that be because he's in a different offense every year? I'd say so. When you have to know where every player is on a given play, and if your still learning the plays, you might be hesitant on a guys position before you throw it. Dude, those stats are from THIS year, and you are sitting here trying to debunk the actual stats saying "early on in his career"? He's still holding onto the ball too long as noted by that article and stats. It's funny that Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco have no problems in their systems (or learning it), but JC does in any system he's been in. Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaimeDeCurry Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 It does help the oline's case though don't you think? It does that, definitely. I really hope whoever we plug in for Thomas can hold up in pass protection. Run blocking doesn't really matter, since we never run it right anyway. Really, all this says is that when he gets sacked, it is because he held onto the ball too long. It doesn't say anything about his general tendencies, especially with only 3 sacks to draw upon. This I also agree with. Which is why it's interesting that Brady, Cutler, and Sanchez are the next three in on that list. It shows that any quarterback can try to extend a play and get sacked for it. The question is whether or not you're good at deciding when it's worth it to try to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianm23 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 It's interesting that people are harping on Campbell for being number one on that list, when guess who's at number two?Now that being said, it is true that most of the time when Campbell gets sacked it's because he held on too long. The Bears WRs are so ****ty, he has to hold onto the ball. :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passizle Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/09/23/which-quarterbacks-hold-the-ball-too-long/You may be able to guess where Jason lands on this list. He needs to react faster. Taking way too much time. The article says: Jason needs to work on this. You'd think he would have learned by now to be faster. All this talk about the second year in the offense, but same result on the scoreboard, same result with the receivers, and same result with holding onto the ball too long. Wait a second. We are using stats posted by a blogger to account for this trivial nonsense? Whodathunkit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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