Mickalino Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 If the offense improves from last year, what will be the most likely reason, or source ? Surely, many will respond with, "Well, obviously, it would be a combination of some of those things" But the question is, what will be the MOST influential source ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HA1LV1CT0RY Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Anything on the right side of the O-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawaiianTime Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Why is Colt conspicuously left out? I know some of you don't think he is an option, but many of us believe he is the best option. Hail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketCitySkins Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Why is Colt conspicuously left out? I know some of you don't think he is an option, but many of us believe he is the best option.Hail! Maybe he's #10. Meaning an addition to the starting line-up, not the team. :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted May 16, 2009 Author Share Posted May 16, 2009 Why is Colt conspicuously left out? I know some of you don't think he is an option, but many of us believe he is the best option.Hail! Wouldn't that fall under "Benching of Campbell due to performance and a better replacement" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sens11 Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Not sure that you missed anything. That's one heck of a poll! For me it's a combiantion of three things: 1. Further development of Zorn's offense. 2. Better play by JC 3. Health on th offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Wouldn't that fall under "Benching of Campbell due to performance and a better replacement" ? thats what I was going to paste in a quote to him. i think the development of Campbell is key here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketCitySkins Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Wouldn't that fall under "Benching of Campbell due to performance and a better replacement" ? Or the last option as in "other".:evilg: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketCitySkins Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Not sure that you missed anything. That's one heck of a poll! For me it's a combiantion of three things: 1. Further development of Zorn's offense. 2. Better play by JC 3. Health on th offensive line. Same three for me, only add, 2nd year WR, Thomas or Kelly, have a better performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted May 16, 2009 Author Share Posted May 16, 2009 Same three for me, only add, 2nd year WR have a better performance. DT and MK were in the poll - so you think it will be a combination of both of them ? EDIT : nevermind, you edited yours to be more specific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketCitySkins Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 DT and MK were in the poll - so you think it will be a combination of both of them ?EDIT : nevermind, you edited yours to be more specific I think it would only take one of them to take the pressure off of Moss. But I hope they both contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted May 16, 2009 Author Share Posted May 16, 2009 Why is Colt conspicuously left out? I know some of you don't think he is an option, but many of us believe he is the best option.Hail! Wouldn't that fall under "Benching of Campbell due to performance and a better replacement" ? I couldn't specifically mention "Colt's" name in the poll, for fear of having the thread merged with the Mega-Merged Colt Thread :paranoid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawaiianTime Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Wouldn't that fall under "Benching of Campbell due to performance and a better replacement" ? I took that one as a new addition to the team and Colt is a 2nd yr player. Just wondering. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 This is a great poll! I ultimately picked the improvement of DT, but I think that'll lead to the development of Campbell as well, and the better utilization of ARE as a slot WR. Then there's the improvement of the understanding of the offense itself. There's the option of CP losing weight and/or the contributions of a speedy back like Aldridge, even the addition of Davis as a second TE option. Maybe there should have been an option for all of the above. (but you do know that there's an underlying assumption here that THE OFFENSE WILL IMPROVE - do we really know that though?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted May 16, 2009 Author Share Posted May 16, 2009 I ultimately picked the improvement of DT Did you mean to say DT or RT ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Did you mean to say DT or RT ? DT = Devin Thomas (not defensive tackle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted May 16, 2009 Author Share Posted May 16, 2009 DT = Devin Thomas (not defensive tackle) Had to ask, because I can see how the addition of Haynesworth might improve the offense, indirectly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 (but you do know that there's an underlying assumption here that THE OFFENSE WILL IMPROVE - do we really know that though?) True. What if Portis gets injured, the OL plays like ****, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Had to ask, because I can see how the addition of Haynesworth might improve the offense, indirectly True that, but will we really count it as offensive improvement if our DEFENSE is scoring 14 points per game and our offense is still spurrering 10-12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Understanding the system. I don't even think we had much of a playbook this time last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted May 16, 2009 Author Share Posted May 16, 2009 True that, but will we really count it as offensive improvement if our DEFENSE is scoring 14 points per game and our offense is still spurrering 10-12? I was thinking in terms of : Example 1 - Haynesworth forcing a QB fumble deep into opponents territory, and we recover, giving the offense a shorter field to travel for a TD. Or...... Haynesworth sacks, and stopping runs for losses, pinning the other team deep in their own territory for the punt, giving us good field position on the return, once again, offering the offense a shorter field to work with. And those are just 2 examples, of possibly more. See what I'm getting at ? So, indirectly, the defense, or AH in particular, can have an impact on the offense, where they DO actually score more points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 I was thinking in terms of Haynesworth forcing a QB fumble deep into opponents territory, and we recover, giving the offense a shorter field to travel for a TD. Yeah, I figured thats what you meant, but still, are the JC haters going to stop hating on JC just because we get the ball at the opponents 30 a lot or better and score? I think they'd call that JC (Colt?) doing what he's supposed to do. I compare it to the Ravens when they do similar things. It causes fans and critics to rave about their defense, but still complain that they have no offense. When I think about "offensive improvement", I think about an offense thats able to drive the ball down the field continuously throughout the game, and one thats got playmakers and consistent threats, and one that takes advantage of the opponents mismatches. Stuff like that. If we become a second coming of the Ravens this year, I don't think fans will see that as offensive improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted May 16, 2009 Author Share Posted May 16, 2009 Yeah, I figured thats what you meant, but still, are the JC haters going to stop hating on JC just because we get the ball at the opponents 30 a lot or better and score? I think they'd call that JC (Colt?) doing what he's supposed to do. I compare it to the Ravens when they do similar things. It causes fans and critics to rave about their defense, but still complain that they have no offense. When I think about "offensive improvement", I think about an offense thats able to drive the ball down the field continuously throughout the game, and one thats got playmakers and consistent threats, and one that takes advantage of the opponents mismatches. Stuff like that. If we become a second coming of the Ravens this year, I don't think fans will see that as offensive improvement. I understand, and naturally I'd rather see the offense improve on its own, with no help from the defense, but that may not happen until next year, but in the meantime, I will definitely take "more points scored" as a result of improved defense, over the scoring output we had last year. Any improvement would be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Eh, voted upgrade at RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Other: Zorn getting some cahones, telling Portis that he is useless to us injured, and finally using Betts the way he was intended to be. 8 swing passes to Betts a game, and the entire offense opens up. Safeties and linebackers now have to be honest, and all of our other wrs get a little extra space to get open. TC used Betts perfectly, and the offense rolled. Colt would likely also understand this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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