mistertim Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Where'd you hear that?I dont buy it. A guy taken that high in the draft has to be an every down type of player, not a pass rushing specialist. That is an every down player. Same thing with Everette Brown if we were to pick him up. Same thing we did with MW for a while. Sometimes he is in as a rush LB, sometimes he has his hand in the dirt, sometimes we drop him back as an LB into a zone blitz or coverage to misdirect the offense. Versatility to create mismatches is huge. However, I think Orakpo has mostly played 4-3 in a three point stance, whereas Brown has played out of a three point and two point (as well as even playing inside every once in a while). I wouldn't mind either of them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Wow, thanks for the info - I was obviously wrong. I've watched Orakpo play quite a bit and never thought he had the skill set to be a base backer in a 4-3. Shows what I know :laugh: Unfortunately, I don't think he's going to be available at 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 The more I think about it the more I realize that Raji would make me more happy than haynesworth. Man this team is screwed. So many holes. OL-DL-LB-WR and possibly CB if we dont retain Hall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml6157 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 CarterMonty Hanesworth J.T Maualuga (traded down) Fletch McIntosh Landry Horton Hall Rogers That D would be SICK!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 That D would be SICK!!! I agree maybe we should just focus on defense this year and try to get a Ravens-Steelers type of D. Maybe a Defense that could generate some points. I would like to be dominant on one side of the ball and since we are closer on D lets go all in. Maybe next year is when we draft alot of Offensive Lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRhino Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Offense: --- QB --- Jason Campbell ------ Backs ------ Clinton Portis Mike Sellers ---------- Receivers ---------- Santana Moss Devin Thomas -- TE -- Chris Cooley -- OL -- Chris Samuels Chad Rhinehart Jason Brown (Ravens) Randy Thomas Stephon Heyer Defense: -- DL -- Andre Carter Chris Canty (Cowboys) Anthony Montgomery Cornelius Griffin --- LBs --- Rocky McIntosh London Fletcher Drafted LB (This is a no brainer. The draft is DEEP in LBs) --- DBs --- Carlos Rogers Dante Hall Chris Horton Laron Landry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 Defense: S Laron Landry, Chris Horton LB- Fletcher, Mcintosh, Maualuga DL- Evans, Haynesworth, Griffen, Carter CB- Hall, Rogers Offense: QB Jason Campbell, RB/FB Portis, Sellars WR/TE Santana Moss, Devin Thomas, Chris Cooley OL Chris Samuels, Derrick Dockery, C. Rabach, Stephon Heyor, RandyThomas I guess my plan would mean not really addressing O Line this year. Trying to get one last year of production from our guys now plus Dockery. We have so many holes to fill it just wont get done this year. Get a couple OL late round picks in the draft and coach them up. Hopefully atleast one hits and we will have decent depth there. Go all out on Defense, Haynesworth and Maualuga would be solid additions. Rey will take over for Fletch when he leaves. This will not be a team that will score a ton of points. Hopefully we could get more turnovers that will help us and maybe we could get some Defensive TD's. Bottom Line is we cannot fill all the holes this year. So lets build our Defense so it is a force. Hopefully our offense would be good for around 14 pts a game and our D could get us some points. Next year we draft heavy when it comes to O line. And pick up a RB in the draft. We could try to be more creative on offense. I.E. Randle El in the wildcat. He would be perfect for this. We play Broncos, Chargers, Raiders and the Cheifs this year. Last I checked they dont have dominant Defenses so our Offense could possibly get the job done. We'll thats my plan call it idiotic but I think it would be best for this season. Lets be DOMINANT on DEFENSE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Assuming restructuring and all that works out so this isn't over the cap. Offense: Campbell - QB Portis - RB Moss - WR1 Thomas - WR2 Kelly - Slot/Red Zone Cooley - TE Samuels - LT Kendall - LG Rabach - C Thomas - RG Oher - RT Defense: Carter - LDE Griffin - DT Montgomery - DT Canty - RDE June - SLB Fletcher - MLB McIntosh - WLB Hall - CB Rogers - CB Landry - SS Springs - FS Obviously, I have us taking Oher at #13 and signing Canty to replace Daniels/Evans. I also would like us to take a run at Cato June, just released by the Bucs. He's 29, wouldn't cost too much to bring in, and he's a local product, from Anacostia high school, so he might be excited to play for the hometown team. I think he could be a good fill-in, allowing us to wait a year/two to draft a linebacker, while concentrating on our O-Line. Release Taylor for cap room, do not sign Haynesworth. Resign Hall, START rogers opposite him, and move Springs to FS. I'm not as high on Horton as some others are, but I think moving Springs there would allow Landry to move up to SS, where he likes to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Also, I'd like to point out that at least one person, maybe more, has Channing Crowder listed. I believe he has already resigned with the Dolphins. Ditto Vernon Carey, so take him out of your lineups. Also, did I see that someone has Dante Hall as one of our DB's? Man, some people really need to learn the first names of our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRhino Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Also, I'd like to point out that at least one person, maybe more, has Channing Crowder listed. I believe he has already resigned with the Dolphins. Ditto Vernon Carey, so take him out of your lineups.Also, did I see that someone has Dante Hall as one of our DB's? Man, some people really need to learn the first names of our players. Hey, what's wrong with putting a washed-up Returner/Receiver at Cornerback? My bad. I meant DEANGELO HALL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Offense QB Campbell RB Portis FB Sellers TE Cooley WR Moss WR Kelly OT Samuels OG Kendall C Rabach OG Thomas OT Andre Smith Defense DE Carter DT Griffin DT Haynesworth DE Taylor LB McIntosh LB Fletcher LB Boley CB Hall CB Smoot FS: Landry SS: Horton Additions: Andre Smith, Haynesworth, Hall and Boley. Subtractions: Carlos Rogers gets traded for a 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroundNPound Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 QB - Campbell RB - Portis FB - Sellers WRs - 1.Moss, 2.Thomas/Kelly(one Steps up), 3.ARE(wil be great slot WR) TE - Cooley C - Rabach Guards - Thomas, Dockery (brought back for a reasonable price) Tackles - Samuels, Andre Smith (1st round pick... would be a steal at 13) DEs - Taylor, Carter DTs - Griffin, Chris Canty (should cost almost half as much as Haynes) LBs - Fletcher, Rocky, Angelo Crowell (good bang for the buck FA) CBs: Hall and Los Safeties - SS:Horton/Moore FS - Landry I would be happy with that setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsmith2003 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 CampbellPortis Sellers Cooley Moss Randle El (or if FA signing of Housh from Bengals, he will immediately be #2, BUT if no FA BIG NAME, then I say Devin Thomas will take Randle El's spot as #2, moving him to #3/slot guy where's he's most effective, by week4 at latest) Samuels Rinehart Rabach Thomas Jansen to start (either Rookie takes position by mid-season, or Heyer by mid-season) Landry Horton Hall Rogers Fletcher McIntosh Crowell Carter Haynesworth Montgomery Canty Given latest round of cuts in FA, revising my predictions before FA Starts here.... Campbell Sellers Portis Cooley Moss Randle El (see above notes) Samuels Dockery Rabach Thomas Rinehart (by week4) Canty Haynesworth Montgomery Carter McIntosh Fletcher Crowell Hall Rogers Landry Horton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 OK check out my first post on my starting lineup. I knew we would get Haynesworth. Thats not such a tough prediction I know... Now I reiderate we are going to get Maualuga at 13 if he is there and I think he will be. This in my mind is a great choice. He will replace Washington for the time and learn from Fletcher who will still be MLB. When Fletch leaves Maualuga will slide over to MLB. Think of it! Haynesworth will make blitzing lans for him! Offensive lines will be addressed by getting Dockery and using the remaining draft picks 3rd and 5th I think. People ARE DEFENSE is going to be outstanding. We will not select O line at 13 we will not Trade to get more picks. We will get a LB at 13... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefPowhatan17 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Taylor, Haynesworth, Griffen, Carter Orakpo, Fletcher, McIntosh Hall, Horton, Landry, Rogers Samuels, Dockery, Racbach, Thomas, Heyer Cooley, Portis, Campbell, Sellers Moss, Thomas, 3rd (Kelly) Now we just need to draft Orakpo, if he is gone get Maualuga. We could also use a OT, but SLB is more of a glaring whole with no starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 Will we get a WR in the draft or FA? Or is that wishful thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRNY4ZRNY Posted March 9, 2009 Author Share Posted March 9, 2009 Here is my updated starting lineup Defense Laron Landry, Chris Horton Rocky Mcintosh, London Fletcher, Rey Maualuga Andre Carter, Albert Haynesworth, Anthony Montgomery, Phillip Daniels D' angelo Hall, Carlos Rogers Offense Jason Campbell, Clinton Portis, Mike Sellars Santana Moss, Devin Thomas, Chris Cooley Chris Samuels, Derrick Dockery, Casey Rabach, Randy Thomas Stephon Heyor +Draft 3rd Rd O Line to compete with Heyor +5th and 6th round Defensive Ends to put in the mix to compete with Daniels :eaglesuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpayn17 Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I can't agree with Rey. As much as I'd love to have him, it will be easier for our D to over up or LB and DE problems than it will to cover up our Oline problems. We need to go OT no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heliKCx17 Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 KPAYN17---ABSOLUTELY RIGHT...we NEED an OT...Blades played 1/2 the year and LB and did fine, we can get some decent D Line play from the young guns, and possibly a 3rd rounder like the DE from Richmond, Laurence Sidbury...we NEED to go OT Sidbury- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Campbell Portis Sellers Cooley Moss Kelly Samuels Dockery Rabach Thomas Loadholt/ 2nd rd ROT (I believe we will trade down and get a low 1st and low 2nd/ early 3rd rounder) Carter Griffin/Monty Haynesworth Daniels McIntosh Fletcher Clay Matthews (acquired low 1st) Hall Rogers Landry Horton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 KPAYN17---ABSOLUTELY RIGHT...we NEED an OT...Blades played 1/2 the year and LB and did fine\Blades did not play fine. He's short and slow. That's not a good combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 People ARE DEFENSE is going to be outstanding. But will it be enough to carry our anaemic offense yet again? Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heliKCx17 Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 CampbellPortis Sellers Cooley Moss Kelly Samuels Dockery Rabach Thomas Loadholt/ 2nd rd ROT (I believe we will trade down and get a low 1st and 2nd rounder) Carter Griffin/Monty Haynesworth Daniels McIntosh Fletcher Clay Matthews (acquired low 1st) Hall Rogers Landry Horton Love your trade down idea, will be touch to get a high 2nd and low first though, and Matthews is in high demand these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 \Blades did not play fine. He's short and slow. That's not a good combination. Being undersized sure hasn't hindered London Fletcher in his career, and Blades is just a little smaller than him. I think your maybe's being a little harsh on what was a second year player last year, still finding his pro feet. I wouldn't worry too much about HB being undersized, he's a tough little dude. His size was the main reason he fell so low in the draft, along with a hammi injury, or else he'd of been one of the first LB's taken given his college career. Is he good enough to start already? Time will tell, but unless we show our faith in our own players we draft and develop and give them a chance, how will we ever know? Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never4get#21 Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 So many Possibilities and anyone would be nice. Take Rey would solidify our LB core. Take E. Brown would improve the DL with young stud DE. Take A. Smith would solidify or OL at RT for years. My guess at this point would be: Defense Laron Landry, Chris Horton Rocky Mcintosh, London Fletcher, Late FA always a few fall do to cap space or other reasons. Andre Carter, Albert Haynesworth, Anthony Montgomery, Draft Pick(3rd Micheal Johnson/Will Davis) D' angelo Hall, Carlos Rogers Offense Jason Campbell, Clinton Portis, Mike Sellers Santana Moss, Devin Thomas, Chris Cooley Chris Samuels, Derrick Dockery, Casey Rabach, Randy Thomas, Andre Smith (13) Too much talent to overlook if he falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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