RenegadeTK Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 What do you all think? With our obvious lack of a legit WR to compliment Moss, why not slide Cooley out there? Especially with ARE hurt right now, and not performing like we need him to. Positives / Responses to Negatives - Cooley has established himself as a threat in the NFL. - Defenses would pay him a lot more attention than they would James Thrash. - Apparently Devin Thomas isn't where we need him to be (but i'm still hopeful). - Who knows what Malcolm Kelly is capable of. - Yoder has performed well and Fred Davis is suppose to be a stud, so it's not like we have no one to move to TE. - It would IMMENSELY help our run blocking on the outside. - He has lined up in the slot numerous times. - He isn't as slow as most people think. Remember that long TD he ripped off against the Panthers a couple seasons ago? - 6'3, 249.... CBs would be a bit intimidated. so what do you all think? I will leave it to you to put up some negatives. DISCLAIMERS: - Believe me, I am not one of those hardcore "Captain Chaos" fans that you see around here and at games. - I used the google-search function and didn't find anything. My apologies if this has been discussed lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symbol Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 He's a tight end, not a wide receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I'd be all for Cooley going out wide. I would actually like to see Cooley out wide on 4 WR sets along with Moss, Randel El and Thomas/Kelly. Leave Portis in the backfield and boom, instant success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 He's a tight end, not a wide receiver. yeah... but if ARE, matt jones & devin hester can convert, i think Cooley could manage shifting to receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoasthog Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Why screw up the one thing on our passing offense that works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Why screw up the one thing on our passing offense that works? It could work better? Maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symbol Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 yeah... but if ARE, matt jones & devin hester can convert, i think Cooley could manage shifting to receiver. It's not a matte of converting as much as make up. Chris Cooley, as great a receiver as he is, just isn't that fast. ARE, Matt Jones, and especially Hester are much faster than Cooley and can at times get separation from a Corner. Cooley is usually on Linebackers or at the worst, a safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindlywewander Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 is this a serious thread? cooley is good at TE. beating safeties and LBs is way different than beating CBs. cooley is the man.. but as a TE. putting him in slot is a good idea and zorn has done it several times this year. but making him a permanent WR is almost laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DButz65 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 It might work in Madden, but not IRL. Plus they split him out from the line from time to time in certain situations. Hes too slow to be a #2 receiver, 1 star! lol my :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 cooley ran a 4.6 at his pro day.... not horrible. better than malcolm kelly's. everyone that is immediately dismissing the idea, you really think that having james thrash out there is that much more effective than if we had cooley out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DButz65 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 cooley ran a 4.6 at his pro day.... not horrible. better than malcolm kelly's.everyone that is immediately dismissing the idea, you really think that having james thrash out there is that much more effective than if we had cooley out there? Yes because as a #2 receiver, you get the other teams 2nd best CB covering you, Cooley is slow compared to them, he can separate from LB's much easier than he can from a CB. I dont know what you have in your pipe man, but i want some Ok im going to bed this made my head hurt hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 i definitely understand the speed argument... but i think people are underestimating his game speed. plus with all the 3+ receiver sets we put out, if the other team's defense DOES put their #2 cb on cooley at the Z, then their #3 cb would be guarding whoever you prefer to be the Z receiver... which would give us an advantage anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 What do you all think? With our obvious lack of a legit WR to compliment Moss, why not slide Cooley out there? Especially with ARE hurt right now, and not performing like we need him to.Positives / Responses to Negatives - Cooley has established himself as a threat in the NFL..... - He has lined up in the slot numerous times. so what do you all think? I will leave it to you to put up some negatives. Interesting. Getting the ball to Cooley more would be a good idea. Cooley is one of the top TEs in league because linebackers and some safeties have a difficult time covering him. Zorn and Saunders both have used Cooley out wide and in the slot, trying to create the match-up of Cooley 1 on 1 with a linebacker or a safety. IMO moving Cooley to the Z would be counter productive, he's not quick enough or fast enough to consistently get open vs an NFL CB. :2cents: cooley ran a 4.6 at his pro day.... not horrible. better than malcolm kelly's. Cooley 40 times: Combine: 4.87/ Pro day: 4.74 http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=58466&draftyear=2004&genpos=TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vigilante Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Don't we do this already? I could have sworn that Cooley plays as a WR several times a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu7ch Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I hope this is a joke thread. Not all thoughts should be threads, remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Cooley is entirely too slow to play the Z. Typically your Z is a speedy receiver that has quickness. Lots of motions involve the Z. If anything, I think the X would be a better spot if you were going to shift him to receiver. The X is typically a bigger bodied receiver with strength that can fight off a jam and get into his route. However, a starting corner would be alot faster than Cooley no matter how you slice it. Cooley would have a tough time getting open downfield. I like how we utilize him in 3 or 4 receiver packages now. Shifting him to receiver probably isn't the best idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb4348 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 yeah... but if ARE, matt jones & devin hester can convert, i think Cooley could manage shifting to receiver. When did we get Matt Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilskinzfan47 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I cant see him as a full time WR.Slot occasionally in a 3 and 4 wide package.But not exclusively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewAgeSkins Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Instead of screwing stuff up, why not just move Fred Davis outside to WR? He has more footspeed and quickness than Cooley... this is what the Browns do with Kellen Winslow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC8 Bunta Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 cooley runs a 7 second 40 yard dash.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkekoa Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 It would be great if he ever would get open but he isn't Gates in regard of being able to slide out or outrun anybody. If he can get open against any CB in the league, that corner would be looking for a new job. If he got open, the funny thing would be trying to watch a CB try to tackle him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinwhylee Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Actually, I believe Cooley is slower than people give him credit for. Tough as nails to bring down though. When did we get Matt Jones ... When did we get Devin Hester? He was providing examples of position changes, not position changes from the Redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb4348 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Actually, I believe Cooley is slower than people give him credit for. Tough as nails to bring down though.... When did we get Devin Hester? He was providing examples of position changes, not position changes from the Redskins. oh I see. Didn't have my coffee yet:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfansince72 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 blindlywewonder beat me to it, but there is no way I want cooley across the line from a CB. He stands no chance. Thats like having an empty back field and putting your QB under center....thats just plain stupid and we would never d...........oh wait, I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiyadukes Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 cooley runs a 7 second 40 yard dash.... LOL. He is slow but is good when LB's have to cover him. Db's are fast and he would not be as affective in that role. Lets get Kelly and Thomas more involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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