Chiefinonhaze Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Is that one Dominant player such as Ray Lewis. Some may argue Fletcher and maybe a healthy Jason Taylor can be those guys, but that is questionable. Fletcher is a monster, but he isn't completely dominant like Ray Lewis, or 21. 21 was that guy who would be the Ray Lewis of our defense for years to come. Even if Fletcher is that guy that keeps our Defense top tier, he is getting up there in age and so is Jason Taylor. I see this as a problem a few years down the line, because we will need to find our own dominant player on defense or our Defense will be middle of the pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 One word. Speed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reglw22 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Production from our DTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero21 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Catching INTs and pressure on the QB. That's the difference. Fletcher is dominant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefinonhaze Posted November 15, 2008 Author Share Posted November 15, 2008 ^^^Yes but if we had one dominant player who could help with that it would be big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Brown Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 its definitely not talent. sure they have some big names like ray and ed and tsuggs, but we have guys just as talented as them. i think its their attitude. that whole D is just ****ing mean and doesn't take **** from anyone. they want to hurt you all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 The Dline. Think about how this defense would perform if Blache didn't have to blitz everyone plus the "kitchen sink" just to get pressure on the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Brown Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 The Dline.Think about how this defense would perform if Blache didn't have to blitz everyone plus the "kitchen sink" just to get pressure on the QB. the ravens bring pressure with their LB's all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CounterTrey Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 We did have one dominant player...Alas his number was 21... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blue Joe Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 the ravens bring pressure with their LB's all dayDon't they run a 3-4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expensivegift Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 The Ravens D is characterized by Ray Lewis. Everyone knows he's one bad SOB. London Fletcher is good too but he does not hit as hard as Ray. Ray Lewis sets the tone for the rest of the Ravens D and everyone else follows suit. I wouldn't say the Redskins D is soft but after Arrington was out and then the late Sean Taylor departed we don't have the hard hitters anymore. Redskins D is just known for being adequate, above average. Landry can bring the hammer but he is always playing 20 yards back. Horton is ok but Sean Taylor could hit harder. Everyone else isn't as ferocious as Ray Lewis or Suggs or Ed Reed. Plus Ravens D is always known for having a rock at the defensive line. Before it was Sam Adams and Tony Siragusa. Now it's Haloti Ngata. Our DTs aren't like that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Don't they run a 3-4? Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corrupt3d Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 One word: pressure the rest comes with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsMaster88 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 We need the big plays: sacks and turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area51 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 The biggest thing that is stopping our Defense to be like the Ravens is our inability to make turnovers. Ravens D not only gets turnovers, but they score often too. That and Ray Lewis. London Fletcher is absolutely a great player but Lewis is a HOF'er who scares the **** out of his opponents just by looking at him. His hit on Kellen Winslow a couple of weeks ago(which caused an INT) was absolutely nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StartColtNow Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Stone hands, especially Rogers who should be leading the league in INTs. I remember in just Rams game Fletcher and Landry dropped sure picks and of course the pick 6 that Mr. Stonehands bumbled and fumbled against the Steelers. Think about it, we make those 2 really simple football plays and most likely we're at 8-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Brown Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 The biggest thing that is stopping our Defense to be like the Ravens is our inability to make turnovers. Ravens D not only gets turnovers, but they score often too. That and Ray Lewis. London Fletcher is absolutely a great player but Lewis is a HOF'er who scares the **** out of his opponents just by looking at him. His hit on Kellen Winslow a couple of weeks ago(which caused an INT) was absolutely nasty. like i said, attitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzmuda Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Nope. It's dominant linemen like TSuggs and Haloti Ngata. Redskins are probably better in the secondary, and slightly worse at linebacker. Ravens are far superior at the DL though. It's no coincidence we heard the "Ray Lewis is washed up" talk when he didn't have those dominant linemen in front of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCooley47 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 One word. Speed... Claudio Sanchez hit the nail on the head with this comment... speed makes the best defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 ONE NAME...Haloti Ngata!!!! They havea dominant pass rush. They have Bartt Scott, Ray Lewis, and T-Sizzle as linebackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 UGLY purple uniforms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 UGLY purple uniforms I've wondered this too. Is it that teams are so afraid of those ugly things, that they become discombobulated on offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus87 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Two things, as people have already pointed out: 1- We don't have the d-line they do. Terrell Suggs is a monster, and Ngata is just a beast at breaking up the middle of the o-line (he was also a first round pick at the request of Ray, as a note to how we refuse to draft d-linemen early). We don't have that, plain and simple. Golston and Montgomery are decent, but not nearly the quality of Ngata. It makes a big difference when your DTs can blow up the pocket and command double teams. See: Kris Jenkins for the Jets, Ngata, or Haynesworth for the Titans. Griffin was at that level in 2004 but hasn't been close since, and it hurts our D big time overall compared to what it could be. 2- Lewis makes a huge difference with his attitude and playmaking ability. That was #21 for us. We have a great defense, and Landry is an absolute baller and he should be a Pro Bowler at FS, but Taylor was the kind of marquee franchise player you just can't replace. An absolutely devastating loss for us, but such is life and we have to find ways to make up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Nope. It's dominant linemen like TSuggs and Haloti Ngata. Redskins are probably better in the secondary, and slightly worse at linebacker. Ravens are far superior at the DL though. Totally agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Full Monty Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 The Dline.Think about how this defense would perform if Blache didn't have to blitz everyone plus the "kitchen sink" just to get pressure on the QB. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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