Michael_33's "wishful thinking" mock draft including tradeups/downs!

[Skins247]

Round 1

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#1)Arizona Cardinals=RB Darren McFadden (Arkansas)

The Cardinals trade Larry Fitzgerald to the Miami Dolphins for a swap of 1st rounders,2nd round pick #50 and undisclosed picks in 09'....The Cardinals are looking for a gamebreaking back to go with a prolific offense and to help take a load off Leinart or Warner.

#2)St.Louis Rams=OT Jake Long (Michigan)

The Rams really need to improve that O-line and they do with the best OT prospect of the draft..Although a LT, Long can play both LT and RT as he is a versatile man beast.Bulger has been getting killed and Long should do wonders for that line.

#3)Atlanta Falcons=WR Malcolm Kelly (Oklahoma)

Last year Miami reached for Ginn Jr,this year Atlanta does the same for Kelly...But the Falcons have had problems getting recievers who will actually catch the football.Kelly will provide a big target at 6"4" to "whoever" will be throwing him the ball ...They also felt he has the most to offer for them at that postion as trading down would have been to risky to lose him.

#4)Oakland Raiders=DE Chris Long (Virginia)

Coming from a good breed in "Howie",Davis can't pass up the chance to land his son...Chris will give an already stout defense,a formidable unit all around...With the retirement of Sapp (DT),Long will join an already very expensive D-line.It will also allow the Raiders to move around D-line rotation as Chris is strong enough to play both positions.

#5)Kansas City Chiefs=S Kenny Phillips (Miami)

As bad as they wanted Ryan Clady,they felt the need for Safety was even bigger...With Gregg Wesley's release they will want to keep a frustrated defensive unit as talented as possible...They feel they can grab an O-lineman in later rounds and with Phillips nose for the ball,he can provide the turnovers the Chiefs have been lacking for some time.

#6)New York Jets=DE Vernon Gholston (Ohio St.)

With the way the bust turned out in DeWayne Robertson,the Jets feel much more comfortable in this pick...They also didn't have to trade up for him to get him either...But the Jets have really needed help along the D-line for sometime as it seems they can't buy a pass russ.The Jets are more than happy for Vernon to fall in their lap like this.

#7)New England Patriots=OLB Keith Rivers (USC)

Suprise pick by many as the Patriots lost Asante Samuels and Randall Gay to free agency,but there is no doubt that the Patriots were looking to get younger at LB.The Patriots are really wishing they had that 31st pick to add to that secondary,so they will hope one falls in the 2nd round.

#8)Baltimore Ravens=QB Matt Ryan (BC)

With McNairs injuries and near retirement,the Ravens desperately need a franchise QB...And they get one!The Ravens had planned on getting Brohm,but couldn't believe it,when Ryan was still on the board as they wanted him...but didn't want to make a move for him with the talent at QB this year.

#9)Cincinnati Bengals=DE Derrick Harvey (Florida)

With the losts of Justin Smith,the Bengals felt they could get better production from the their pass rush in Harvey...Although a bit undersized,they love is speed and abilty to get around the end and cause havoc.

#10)Washington Redskins=DT Glenn Dorsey (LSU)

The Redskins trade Shawn Springs,3rd round pick 08',7th round pick 08'and a 2nd round pick in 09' draft...The Saints wanted a shutdown corner and the Redskins wanted Dorsey.The Redskins also know that Dorsey wouldn't have made it past the Broncos who pick 12th,as the Broncos always seem to look for D-lineman every season...The Saints get a CB who they need to bulster a very weak secondary and added picks and the Redskins get the anchor they have needed since the Maroon rush in the 80's.

#11)Buffalo Bills=CB Mike Jenkins (South Florida)

The Bills thought heavily on CB McKelvin,but thought Jenkins provided the bump'n'run capability that McKelvin lacks in strength...Although not as elusiveness on the field as McKelvin,his coverskills are hard pressed to be ignored.

#12)Denver Broncos=WR DeSean Jackson (California)

With Dorsey off the board,the Broncos pass on the other available DT's and go for another need in Jackson...With Ashlie Lelea not turning out the way they had hoped,they take a guy who they hope will help Cutler stretch the field.

#13)Carolina Panthers=WR Limas Sweed (Texas)

With the fear of the good receivers coming off the board,the Panthers take no chance and grab a nice tall threat to compliment Smith on the outside...Carolina feared the talent would not have made it into the 2nd round as they reach for sweed,but get their man.

#14)Chicago Bears=RB Jonathan Stewart (Oregon)

While being active at WR in free agency,the Bears were hoping 1 of the 3 WR to fall to them in (Kelly,sweed and jackson),but the bears don't want to pay more money by trading up as we all know too well...So the Bears take a RB they were excited about at the combine and who impressed them alot with his work ethic...

#15)Detroit Lions=OT Ryan Clady (Boise St)

The Lions wonder if Millen is present come draft day...The Lions take a player they needed real bad to help up front.Instead of the splashy WR pick,they take a guy who could really help Kitna and that dangerous wr core.They wanted Long,but knew it would cost way too much to get him...So they grabbed what they thought was a smart pick.

#16)Miami Dolphins=DT Sedrick Ellis (USC)

The Dolphins were really nervous about taking Dorsey at #1 with his injury during his senior year...While finding a trading partner in Arizona,Parcells couldn't pass up a chance for Ellis at this slot.Most people were surprised they didn't take a QB here,but with the talent at that position they felt they could grab what they are looking for later in the draft.

#17)Minnesota Vikings=QB Brian Brohm (Louisville)

The Vikings feel they need more production from the QB spot.With AP solidifying the RB position,they are somewhat unsure of the QB spot right now.So they feel that Brohm will help them as he learns the offense in a year or two...They also feel that with a great offensive line,they should be getting better production at this spot as well.

#18)Houston Texans=CB Aqib Talib (Kansas)

The Texans continue to build that defense,but this time in the secondary as they need help on the outside with the Colts passing attack and the new additions to the Jaguars new receiving core.They feel they are just a few players away from a possible playoff team.The Texans had their first non-losing season since their existence at 8-8.

#19)Philadelphia Eagles=WR Mario Manningham (Michigan)

The Eagles reach for Mario,just like Kolb last season...But with McNabb publicly stating in public that they need a WR,they take a stab at a very good reciever...Plus failing to aquire Fitzgerald,they were left with the next best WR they thought was on the board.

#20)Tampa Bay Buccanears=LB Dan Connor (Penn St)

With the Defense getting very old and the Derrick Brooks about to retire soon..The Bucs felt they needed to get younger at the LB position...Connor gives them a very good tackler and the gruden attitude in toughness...They almost traded down,but decided he was the perfect fit for what they need.

#21)New Orleans Saints=OT Jeff Otah (Pittsburgh)

The Saints really wanted Clady,but the Redskins were the only team that had anything good to offer in Springs to help with their secondary...But Otah should really help with their running game as he is a great run blocking Tackle.

#22)Dallas Cowboys=RB Mario Manningham (Michigan)

As Felix Jones was the consensus pick at this spot,Jerry suprises everyone with this selection...Most thought with Arkansas Alum with Felix or McFadden that he would take one or the other but doesn't...But he liked Mario's toughness a bit more and he should compliment Barber quite well.

#23)Pittsburgh Steelers=DT Kentwan Balmer (N.Carolina)

The Steelers liked Balmer from day 1...they loved his strength and quickness off the ball...They feel like he will give them a good rotation in the middle and like his size as well.

#24)Tennessee Titans=RB Felix Jones (Arkansas)

The Titans feel that Felix will compliment Lendell White and really want to make their running game more balanced...They didn't like any of the WR's at this spot,so they took what they thought was smart addition to tough AFC South division.They want ball control to be an importance to a now pass happy division...

#25)Seattle Seahawks=OT Chris Williams (Vanderbilt)

With the additions of Julies Jones and Crumpler,the Seahawks wanted to bulster their O-line for their lack of running game the last 2 seasons...Although successful in the new passing attack style,they want to balance the offense with an affective running game.

#26)New York Giants=CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (Tennessee St)

The Giants find value here by trading Jeremy Shockey to Jacksonville for their 1st round pick...The Giants need a CB real bad and the Jags really wanted another big target for Gerrard...Shockey felt isolated in NY and the Giants felt that Boss did exactly what they had hope shockey would provide...Teamwork!Shockey likes the deal cause he's from Miami.

#27)San Diego Chargers=WR James Hardy (Indiana)

The Chargers felt that Hardy's size would really help them in the redzone along with gates and LT...They feel that with injuries during the playoffs last season(LT,Gates),they really didn't have an answer for the defenses they faced.Hardy should give them another option should that situation happen again.

#28)Dallas Cowboys=S Reggie Smith (Oklahoma)

The Cowboys hope that Reggie is better than Roy Williams in covering the long pass...Ironically,both are from Oklahoma...But they should be pleased cause reggie doesn't get burned like ole' Roy does.Well,At least Jerry is bankin' on that anyways.

#29)San Francisco 49ers=DE Phillip Merling (Clemson)

The Niners feel they need to get more pressure from the outside...Although their defense has not been the disappointment like the offense has,they feel that his presence will really make it tough to run against them as Merling excells at stopping the run for a DE.

#30)Greenbay Packers=DE Lawrence Jackson (USC)

The packers can't help but grab Jackson here...With a defense that played well,they still felt a missing piece was sitting at the other DE spot...Lawrence should provide GB with a pair of very good DE's for the next decade.

#31)New England Patriots=Forfeited due to CHEATING! :doh:

#32)New York Giants=LB Ali Highsmith (LSU)

The Giants lost 2 LB's and a Safety to free agency and they were starters...The Giants like the pick here with Highsmith cause he can play both Inside and outside.But what makes him so interesting is his ability to cover the pass so well.

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I'll finish the 2nd round later...

Stupid mock. No way are we getting Dorsey. Its ridiculous to even think that. Btw, genius, the Panthers just signed Mushin Muhammad last week. They aren't drafting a WR in the first round....hahaha

[Skins247]

no...my only one.

So you guys think trading from 21st to 10 and giving up Springs(injured more than Glenn could ever be) a 3rd this season(even though we will have extra 3rd rounder),a 7th this season and a 2nd next year(value of a 3rd) is too much for Glenn Dorsey...the best defensive player in the draft who played his whole senior year with an injury...

Am I'm the idiot?Are you sure?

Yeah, im definitely sure!

[elkabong82]

no...my only one.

So you guys think trading from 21st to 10 and giving up Springs(injured more than Glenn could ever be) a 3rd this season(even though we will have extra 3rd rounder),a 7th this season and a 2nd next year(value of a 3rd) is too much for Glenn Dorsey...the best defensive player in the draft who played his whole senior year with an injury...

Am I'm the idiot?Are you sure?

Are you sure? This link is to your mock draft for the Skins picks, dated a month ago.

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237846

[kingdaddy]

No way we would give up all of that. I would think this move would only be possible if we acquired D'Angelo Hall which is gonna cost us our 2nd rounder this year......Otherwise, we couldn't afford to trade Springs.

[#21Taylor4Ever]

I hate to **** on all the time it took you to do this mock draft, but there's NO WAY IN HELL we trade up for Dorsey. NOT A STINKIN CHANCE!

Why do people, even after Golston and Montgomery's maturity in 07, still think we're in need of a damn DT???

Trade up for Gholston, Long.....but not a damn DT!

[Boy2Der]

Glen Dorsey will not even fall out of the top 5 so this is just plain stupid and were left with no CB, stupid stupid stupid if Dan did this than God help us.

[FootballGuy2677]

I'd LOL so hard if a DL like Sedrick Ellis actually fell to the Broncos and they didn't pick him.

[RypienUmApart]

1. Never trade up into the top 15.

2. That's a ridiculous amount of picks and a valuable player just to move up 11 spots.

3. The Bills will go WR not CB.

[SkipJackSkin]

No, no, no I wouldn't like giving all that just to trade up for Dorsey.

[1972FAN]

No Way, You have to be a Cowboy fan to give away that much from the Redskins?

[bmw2301]

That was absolutely ridiculous, why did you even bother posting that. I honestly don't think any of those picks will be correct... Let's be serious....

[CRobi21]

That was absolutely ridiculous, why did you even bother posting that. I honestly don't think any of those picks will be correct... Let's be serious....

You let micheal be. He's in his special place right now.

[Joncevensen]

Nice effort on the mock draft. You must have put a lot of time into it. Can you correct Mario Manningham's position. He is a WR, not a RB. So as much as I would love for the Cowboys to take him just to try to switch his position...he is a WR. And I have never seen WR Kelly out of Oklahoma mentioned so high.

[Area51]

Seriously dude, this is the worst mock draft I may have ever seen.

[aubreyjn]

springs is injury prone BUT dorsey is not that tight, i think we're young enough at that pos. and its unnecessary, add depth this year get silly next offseason

[kvarlo12000]

I don't see why everyone says Dorsey is injury prone? How many games did he miss his whole college career?

[coyote4848]

Not for nothin' guys, while I agree with most of you on here(in theory, not the bashing). I don't think there's a need to just completely slam someone for giving a well thought out, thought provoking thread. I don't think this would be the best thing for our team right now because of too many holes that NEED to be filled. Especially not for an unproven "should be". However, it was a well thought out and well written thread. If we were going to give up something big, I would much rather see a proven young guy on either line or a CB.

[cuchip703]

So the redskins give up 3 picks and their #1 CB for a guy sliding from a top 5 position. Like thats gonna happen

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Technically isn't it Four Picks This Years 1st, 3 and 7 Next years 3 and Shawn Springs. For the Right to Pick Dorsey. Yes Michael33. This is an idiotic trade proposal

And Also, there is absolutely no way, not 1 chance in a million, that the Falcons would take a WR with their pick. Not after cutting their top two QB's in recent weeks.

[Clemenza1112]

Where did you pull this one out of your A@$, first you have Manningham draft by two teams and Ellis and Dorsey aren't falling that far in the draft, and from all the Pro's out there said these WR. are all dropping because there is no standout Wideout, 2nd Safety Kenny Phillps stock dropped big time and should be a early 2nd rd pick. So please do research Mr. Fantasy dreams...............

[michael_33]

Round 2 is up..

[chaddukes]

Sorry, but that makes no sense. CB is a position of need just as much as DT. Blache has already stated that his system relies on strong CB play. We have depth at the DT position, but not the impact players that we need. At CB we have three good players, none of whom can make it through 16 games without injuries. Roger's is already looking to miss time and we have Shawn "Groin Pull" Springs and Fred "Doctor say I need a Backiotomy" Smoot to start with esentially no one behind them. Sorry, I just don't buy it.

[skinfan2k]

Why in the world would the saints do that deal anyway. They signed gay and david to big contracts already and could just draft another CB if needed. Why would they need a 30+ yr old CB?

[MrJL]

If this is Wishful Thinking I'd hate to see his nightmare scenario

[michael_33]

The trade to move up to #10 for Dorsey was a swap of 1st rounders (Saints and Skins) swap 1st round picks....OK?

We also trade them Springs and our original 3rd rounder and 7th rounder to them....OK?

We also trade them a 2nd rounder in the 09' draft!

If you read it,it really isn't that difficult to understand!!

[skinfan2k]

The trade to move up to #10 for Dorsey was a swap of 1st rounders (Bengals and Skins) swap 1st round picks....OK?

We also trade them Springs and our original 3rd rounder and 7th rounder to them....OK?

We also trade them a 2nd rounder in the 09' draft!

If you read it,it really isn't that difficult to understand!!

Doesn't matter no idiot would do that trade, looking at the draft chart value. Even if you do plug in a 2nd rounder next year, it is seen as youre giving them a 3rd rounder if youre discounting the present value :doh: