Spanky731 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 LINK Kenny Phillips will forgo his senior season and turn pro. It's still very early and it has been established that there are many other pressing areas of need that we must address this offseason, but if this guy is there when we pick, it'd be hard to say no. 6'2" ball hawk with a meanstreak. I did not enjoy watching the bears game tonight. I felt as though i was watching another team, not sure why this was but I have a feelling its ST. I think it will be a while before im able to enjoy the skins again, and adding a stud like phillips to our pourish secondary would make it a lot easier on all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corrupt3d Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 you mean porous? Kenny Phillips is a great pick, but we got more pressing needs at DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XSean21TaylorX Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Id Like to Get Phillips Pick up a DE via Free Agency alot of guys are FA this off season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 WHY THE HELL DO WE NEED TO SPEND ANOTHER FIRST ROUND PICK ON A SAFETY???? Do you guys realize how ridiculous spending 3 1st round picks in hte past 5 years on safeties is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Pressure Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Looking at tonight our safeties aren't really out of position badly and Landry looks like he might be very good given some experience...looks like CB is a bigger concern than SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieskin Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 We have the best DC in the game, the safeties we have will do me fine, GW will get them ito shape then the fear will return for the recievers going deep, lets not get carried away trying to replace Sean 21, LL, I believe is the answer lets have faith in GW and LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I think if we are in the teens and somehow this kid is available, it's a steal. But if he's gone I say pick up a D lineman. O-linemen are the cream of the crop via free agency, and they are a flip of a coin in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z0eboy Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 phillips can play CB also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffylookin Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Keep ignoring the defensive or offensive lines and we will continue to be an also ran like we've been for nearly two decades now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blchizzleke Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 WHY THE HELL DO WE NEED TO SPEND ANOTHER FIRST ROUND PICK ON A SAFETY???? Do you guys realize how ridiculous spending 3 1st round picks in hte past 5 years on safeties is? thank you someone finally says it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Keep ignoring the defensive or offensive lines and we will continue to be an also ran like we've been for nearly two decades now. Ding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackest Eyes Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 While it looks like this guy could be a stud in the secondary, our D-Line is really lacking pressure without blitzing...Carter is doing alright but other than that, we don't have a lot. We need to get young offensive lineman and cornerback is looking like a need if Rogers injury really got the best of him and if Springs doesn't come back. It would be cool to have this guy though. We need a ball hawk. I am tired of our secondary never getting any interceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxpck Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 FIRST PICK = D LINE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE If we need a safety get him through FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Worthy Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 The team needs so many spots they might lean towards BPA if they keep the 1st pick. the rest will probaly be position of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinzFan007 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Trenches D-Line or O-line only in the first please!! We don't need to draft a FS in rd 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Keep ignoring the defensive or offensive lines and we will continue to be an also ran like we've been for nearly two decades now. It DEPENDS on who is available. Everyone said this before the last draft and I think the consensus is we made the right choice. The alternative Jamaal Anderson is not doing well and the DT we did not need with Griffin/Golston/Montgomery. We clearly need a safety, but if the best safety is not as good as the best DL when we draft then we get the DL. If the best S is better than the best DL, we get the Safety... :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpumd Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 WHY THE HELL DO WE NEED TO SPEND ANOTHER FIRST ROUND PICK ON A SAFETY???? Do you guys realize how ridiculous spending 3 1st round picks in hte past 5 years on safeties is? Considering the fact that ST is no longer with us, picking a safety in the first round this year would be exactly like it was when we picked Landry. The team/coaches/player personel can't be held responsible for the fact that we lost our best player on defense. It's basically like we never picked a safety in 2004(?) since we no longer have him. Now, I will say that I agree that we should probably focus on the offensive/defensive lines. However, if Philips represents the best value at the pick the Skins select next year, I wouldn't have a problem with taking Philips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Next time we draft a saftey I want this kid, and i am sure he would love to follow his cousin's footsteps and wear the burgundy and gold... (He wears Sean's Miami #26 At Florida State: Battling for playing time at the free safety position...a talented player who has a very bright career ahead of him as a Seminole...plays well at the safety position and hits like a linebacker...a solid tackler who hands out punishing hits from his safety position...is athletic enough to cover in man situations and tough enough not get caught in mismatches versus tight ends and backs. 2006: A redshirt season. High School: Graduated from Gulliver Prep in 2006...a four-star player by Rivals.com and the 10th-ranked safety in the nation...rated as the No. 2 safety in the state of Florida by Rivals.com...a four-star player by Scout.com and the No. 11 safety in the country...earned all-state first team honors for Class 2A in 2005 as voted on by the Florida Sports Writers Association...voted the No. 1 recruit in the Miami-Dade area by the Miami Herald...joined Gulliver teammate and fellow Florida State player Evan Bellamy when he was named All-Dade County first team by the Miami Herald...named the No. 10 overall recruit in the state of Florida by the Miami Herald in their state Top 25...finished his senior season with 64 tackles and four interceptions on defense while scoring four touchdowns on offense from the wide receiver position ...chose Florida State over Miami, Florida, Minnesota and Georgia. Personal: Born Oct. 22, 1987...is the cousin of former Miami Hurricane and current Washington Redskin Sean Taylor...enrolled in undergraduate studies. http://seminoles.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/leon_anthony00.html (He ever wore Sean's High School jersey #) FS-Anthony Leon (Miami (Fla.) Gulliver Prep) Leon, the cousin of Washington Redskins’ Sean Taylor, runs and hits like his relative. The Scout.com No. 9 safety in the country is solid to Florida State and he won’t be taking anymore visits. http://floridastate.scout.com/2/488527.html Anthony Leon S | 6'4" 215 Hometown: Miami, FL School: Gulliver Prep School Region: South Evaluation: Leon is a special athlete who has a great frame and the skills to be a real force at the safety position. He is cousins with the Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor, and you can see similarities between the two when watching Leon play. It is never easy to find defensive backs built like Leon who also can run well and hit. He has the frame to add good bulk and if he does could be even more dangerous. He plays like a linebacker who is twelve yards off the ball. He is quick to come up in run support, and at times is like a heat seeking missile. He reads the play and quickly gets down hill, he is not afraid to mix it up between the tackles. He can find and exploit seams to make plays in the backfield. He covers ground quickly and can make plays off tackle and on the perimeter. He is a solid tackler that can deliver punishing hits at times. He is a ball hawk in the secondary in passing situations. He can cover ground and breaks on the ball well and can cover sideline to sideline. He has good hands and can make a play when he gets an opportunity. He presents a presence for receivers going over the middle. He is athletic enough to cover in man situations and will not get caught in mismatches versus tight ends and backs. He has good speed, is a fluid runner, and shows a burst to the ball. Watching Leon you get the feeling this is a player who is just scratching the surface of his ability. He has a great upside and the tools to be as good and dangerous as his cousin. Notes: cousin of former Miami Hurricane and current Redskins safety Sean Taylor http://proxy.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=33981 Go here and click on the HIGHLIGHT VIDEOS http://iowapreps.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?sport=1&pr_key=44026 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I was hoping he'd wait so we could go DL this draft and make a move for him next draft...oh well, Landry looks good at FS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCranon21 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 We can pick up another safety in FA. But the pressing need is on the O-Line and D-Line. I think we'll focus on that more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayAction Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 It DEPENDS on who is available. Everyone said this before the last draft and I think the consensus is we made the right choice. The alternative Jamaal Anderson is not doing well and the DT we did not need with Griffin/Golston/Montgomery.We clearly need a safety, but if the best safety is not as good as the best DL when we draft then we get the DL. If the best S is better than the best DL, we get the Safety... :2cents: I couldn't disagree with you more on using a first round pick for another safety. Having an excess of riches at safety didn't really help the Defense. Even with ST gone we still have devoted a high first round pick to safety. Considering the other needs it would be really foolish to try to recreate the Defense of this year. I don't believe that Griffin/Golston/Montgomery scare any team. Golston was a starter last year only because of injuries. He makes a nice backup. Montgomery has progressed nicely. But Griffin is very old for a DT. The Skins infrequently get any push up the middle. If they collapsed the pocket the DEs would get more sacks. I'm praying for a DT like Sapp to fall to the Skins. The other major area of immediate concern is CB. The problem with Springs is his contract and his injury problem. Rogers might take a couple years to get back to form. What to do? Offensive Line - we can argue about whether there is an immediate need for a new starter. But with the age and the injuries I think the Skins desperately need to invest a higher draft pick in new talent. Dockery was a third round pick. Skins could look for a Guard with sufficient talent that the line play wouldn't drop off so much if there were injuries. Then in one to two years we would be set with a new starter. If it was up to me the Skins would be using a pick in rounds 1-4 every year for the OL and DL. There will be a huge turnover in the lines over the next three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Considering the fact that ST is no longer with us, picking a safety in the first round this year would be exactly like it was when we picked Landry. The team/coaches/player personel can't be held responsible for the fact that we lost our best player on defense. It's basically like we never picked a safety in 2004(?) since we no longer have him.Now, I will say that I agree that we should probably focus on the offensive/defensive lines. However, if Philips represents the best value at the pick the Skins select next year, I wouldn't have a problem with taking Philips. exactly, it depends on who is available. Who is the best player available between DL and DB... that is who we take... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnhnyy Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Another safety? Are we the lions of East? Unless there is a ST available, you simply do not draft a safety this high. It is like drafting OG in the top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I couldn't disagree with you more on using a first round pick for another safety. Having an excess of riches at safety didn't really help the Defense. Even with ST gone we still have devoted a high first round pick to safety. Considering the other needs it would be really foolish to try to recreate the Defense of this year. I don't believe that Griffin/Golston/Montgomery scare any team. Golston was a starter last year only because of injuries. He makes a nice backup. Montgomery has progressed nicely. But Griffin is very old for a DT. The Skins infrequently get any push up the middle. If they collapsed the pocket the DEs would get more sacks. I'm praying for a DT like Sapp to fall to the Skins.The other major area of immediate concern is CB. The problem with Springs is his contract and his injury problem. Rogers might take a couple years to get back to form. What to do? Offensive Line - we can argue about whether there is an immediate need for a new starter. But with the age and the injuries I think the Skins desperately need to invest a higher draft pick in new talent. Dockery was a third round pick. Skins could look for a Guard with sufficient talent that the line play wouldn't drop off so much if there were injuries. Then in one to two years we would be set with a new starter. If it was up to me the Skins would be using a pick in rounds 1-4 every year for the OL and DL. There will be a huge turnover in the lines over the next three years. I don;t see how we can draft a DL if there aren't any good ones over a sure pick at Safety. I'm not saying that is the case, but if we had to pick between Jamaal Anderson and Laron Landry again, I'd go with Landry. The best player is who we get. Excess of riches at safety? Reed Doughty and Laron Landry??? We lost 4 games in a row and would have won three of those if Sean Taylor had been playing, actually all 4 if he didn;t get hurt. We have one decent safety right now and the rest are garbage. If the best player we can get is a DL then I'm all for it, but drafting an average DL instead of an impact DB is a mistake. Rogers may never be the same, Smoot is not great, Springs is old and injured, and the rest are #5 corners. Landry has no one next to him. We can get an OL in the second-fourth rounds. Maybe two of them. My point is it really depends on who is there for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Another safety? Are we the lions of East? Unless there is a ST available, you simply do not draft a safety this high. It is like drafting OG in the top 5. We won;t pick top 5... why is getting a safety a mistake. We have drafted two of them and both turned out GREAT... Lions of the East? Our safeties are actually great. One passed, so we only have one... It depends on who is available. If you had to choose between Jamaal Anderson, Okoye, and Landry again, who would you pick? Landry? me, too. If it is between Reed Doughty and Julius Peppers, we take Peppers... IT all depends on who is there. We can try to target a position, but it doesn't do any good when the guy is simply not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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