MoeRedskins Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Didn't Williams coach in Buffalo like 4 years ago? They have gone through a pretty big change since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARSexton Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Im wondering if Williams has been saving all of his blitz packages for this game. We havent blitzed hardly at all this year. Wonder if they looked at the schedule and figured they could rely on their 4 down linemen for pressure and save the packages for this week. As NFL coaches, they have got to know that you have to make Brady move and cant let him have all day back there. Our front 4 is no match for their O line. SO maybe they played conservative defense on the blitz front specifically for this game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARSexton Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Im wondering if Williams has been saving all of his blitz packages for this game. We havent blitzed hardly at all this year. Wonder if they looked at the schedule and figured they could rely on their 4 down linemen for pressure and save the packages for this week. As NFL coaches, they have got to know that you have to make Brady move and cant let him have all day back there. Our front 4 is no match for their O line. SO maybe they played conservative defense on the blitz front specifically for this game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRay Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 He can identify and recognize all he wants we still have to go out there and stop them. :applause: I concur !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRay Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 He can identify and recognize all he wants we still have to go out there and stop them. :applause: I concur !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRay Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 There is always the x-factor Reche Caldwell I wonder if Williams had any words with him after all he was a receiver with them last year. Maybe he could give some insight in to their offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRay Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 There is always the x-factor Reche Caldwell I wonder if Williams had any words with him after all he was a receiver with them last year. Maybe he could give some insight in to their offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tone_dubbz Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 One advantage that no one has mentioned yet is Greg Williams knowledge of New England and what they like to do. Remember he played them twice each year in Buffalo and he understands what they like to do. Aside from being a good d-coordinator, he's got some AFC blood too.....it may help! Anything can help! Yeah I would like to know the success rate he had against Buffalo when GW was the coach. Its a totaly different team now, but I'm sure GW is still familiar with the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tone_dubbz Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 One advantage that no one has mentioned yet is Greg Williams knowledge of New England and what they like to do. Remember he played them twice each year in Buffalo and he understands what they like to do. Aside from being a good d-coordinator, he's got some AFC blood too.....it may help! Anything can help! Yeah I would like to know the success rate he had against Buffalo when GW was the coach. Its a totaly different team now, but I'm sure GW is still familiar with the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenken627 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 The only thing that G Williams tenure in Buffalo has to do with us winning this weekend is LONDON FLETCHER. (o and pierson) Jerry Gray, our safeties coach, was the Defensive Coordinator during Gregg Williams head coaching tenure in buffalo and also afterwards until a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenken627 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 The only thing that G Williams tenure in Buffalo has to do with us winning this weekend is LONDON FLETCHER. (o and pierson) Jerry Gray, our safeties coach, was the Defensive Coordinator during Gregg Williams head coaching tenure in buffalo and also afterwards until a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 One advantage that no one has mentioned yet is Greg Williams knowledge of New England and what they like to do. Remember he played them twice each year in Buffalo and he understands what they like to do. Aside from being a good d-coordinator, he's got some AFC blood too.....it may help! Anything can help! Not to be an ass, but this "advantage" has been mentioned in several threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 One advantage that no one has mentioned yet is Greg Williams knowledge of New England and what they like to do. Remember he played them twice each year in Buffalo and he understands what they like to do. Aside from being a good d-coordinator, he's got some AFC blood too.....it may help! Anything can help! Not to be an ass, but this "advantage" has been mentioned in several threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Day Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Well, the Patriots have also played against GW's defenses before so..... Caldwell and Fletcher will be the wildcards in this one. Fletcher has experience making calls and adjustments against Tom Brady. Caldwell may be able to help with some of the audible language or the offensives and Bradys tendencies. What Tom likes to audible too if you show him this presnap kind of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Day Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Well, the Patriots have also played against GW's defenses before so..... Caldwell and Fletcher will be the wildcards in this one. Fletcher has experience making calls and adjustments against Tom Brady. Caldwell may be able to help with some of the audible language or the offensives and Bradys tendencies. What Tom likes to audible too if you show him this presnap kind of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoskins Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 I still don't think our defense is the issue here. I think they can slow the Pats down to less than 25 points going into the 4th. The question is can the offense finally produce that kind of output to keep pace and to keep our defense fresh. If the offense can score 28-31 points, we would have a real shot. But we have not been producing those kinds of numbers on offense all year. The closest we've gotten to that that I remember is 25 against Detroit, which is clearly not as good a defense as NE. If it's 3 and out, 3 and out, 3 and out, even our GW defense will eventually lose steam in the 4th. And then unfortunately a sort of close game would turn into another NE blowout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoskins Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 I still don't think our defense is the issue here. I think they can slow the Pats down to less than 25 points going into the 4th. The question is can the offense finally produce that kind of output to keep pace and to keep our defense fresh. If the offense can score 28-31 points, we would have a real shot. But we have not been producing those kinds of numbers on offense all year. The closest we've gotten to that that I remember is 25 against Detroit, which is clearly not as good a defense as NE. If it's 3 and out, 3 and out, 3 and out, even our GW defense will eventually lose steam in the 4th. And then unfortunately a sort of close game would turn into another NE blowout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemenza1112 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 The New England team is much diffrent then 5-6 years ago they have better Receivers, better TE, so we better Blitz the SH%$ out of them and have good turnover's to turn into Pts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemenza1112 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 The New England team is much diffrent then 5-6 years ago they have better Receivers, better TE, so we better Blitz the SH%$ out of them and have good turnover's to turn into Pts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Soooo..... care to elaborate on what Williams record and defensive stats were against Brady et al during his tenure in cow country? I was thinking the same thing. I expected to see a breakdown of games with TB vs. a GW coached defense. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Soooo..... care to elaborate on what Williams record and defensive stats were against Brady et al during his tenure in cow country? I was thinking the same thing. I expected to see a breakdown of games with TB vs. a GW coached defense. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Im wondering if Williams has been saving all of his blitz packages for this game. We havent blitzed hardly at all this year. Wonder if they looked at the schedule and figured they could rely on their 4 down linemen for pressure and save the packages for this week. As NFL coaches, they have got to know that you have to make Brady move and cant let him have all day back there. Our front 4 is no match for their O line. SO maybe they played conservative defense on the blitz front specifically for this game? While this is a 'big game' because we want to prove we can hang with the best, it's not a big game as far as our season goes. The level of importance goes NFCE, NFC, AFC. This is one of the 4 least important games on our schedule. I know every game is important, but if GW were to keep an Ace in his sleeve it would be for Dallas (leading our division) or NY, the games that REALLY make or break our season as far as playoffs. It's possible GW could dial up the blitzes come Sunday but I don't think he's been saving them for Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Im wondering if Williams has been saving all of his blitz packages for this game. We havent blitzed hardly at all this year. Wonder if they looked at the schedule and figured they could rely on their 4 down linemen for pressure and save the packages for this week. As NFL coaches, they have got to know that you have to make Brady move and cant let him have all day back there. Our front 4 is no match for their O line. SO maybe they played conservative defense on the blitz front specifically for this game? While this is a 'big game' because we want to prove we can hang with the best, it's not a big game as far as our season goes. The level of importance goes NFCE, NFC, AFC. This is one of the 4 least important games on our schedule. I know every game is important, but if GW were to keep an Ace in his sleeve it would be for Dallas (leading our division) or NY, the games that REALLY make or break our season as far as playoffs. It's possible GW could dial up the blitzes come Sunday but I don't think he's been saving them for Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nace14 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 jim mora discussed this exact point on total access this week. not that it matters because the pats teams that gw saw were nothing like this team. when gw was in buf the pats were most west-coast in nature relying on brady picking teams apart down the field and leaning on the running game as a good change of pace. today, brady is sitting in the pocket and stretching teams deep opening up crossing routes for big gains. they also don't pay any attention to their running game until the game is in hand. that's not to say that i don't think gw can match up against the pats play calling, but this pats teams is less about creative offensive calling and more about perfect execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nace14 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 jim mora discussed this exact point on total access this week. not that it matters because the pats teams that gw saw were nothing like this team. when gw was in buf the pats were most west-coast in nature relying on brady picking teams apart down the field and leaning on the running game as a good change of pace. today, brady is sitting in the pocket and stretching teams deep opening up crossing routes for big gains. they also don't pay any attention to their running game until the game is in hand. that's not to say that i don't think gw can match up against the pats play calling, but this pats teams is less about creative offensive calling and more about perfect execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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