wshngtn1 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 My cousin just sent me the painting below signed by a few Skins. I'm trying to identify the autographs and need some help. From the autographs that I can identify, it appears that they come from the 80's. Below the pic are links to closer shots of the painting so you can see the autographs a little better. The pics were just taken with my cell phone so they aren't that great. Top Left Close Up http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/wshngtn/TopLeft.jpg Top Right Close Up http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/wshngtn/TopRight.jpg Bottom Left Close Up http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/wshngtn/BottomLeft.jpg Bottom Right Close Up http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/wshngtn/BottomRight.jpg So far I have only identified: Art Monk Gary Clark - I think Jay Schroeder Don Warran Raleigh McKenzie Neil Olkewicz Clint Didier Jeff Bostic Any help would be greatly appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Vernon Dean #32 Keith Griffin #35 Raphael Cherry #37 Rick Donally #76 Reggie Branch #30 Tony Peters Calvin Muhammad #89 Chris Keating #59 Dan McQuaid #60 Anthony Jones #82 tom Beasley Ken Huff #61 Looks like the 85 team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Ken Huff #61 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurd Cudins Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but ALL those are signed by the same guy. Look at common letters in hte name. Peoples R's and D's and such are VERY distinct. The one's in this are not. It is a forgery. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSKINS_08 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 It is a forgery. Sorry. I dont think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhunter Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I hate to be the bearer of bad news' date=' but ALL those are signed by the same guy. Look at common letters in hte name. Peoples R's and D's and such are VERY distinct. The one's in this are not. It is a forgery. Sorry.[/quote']??? Some "D"s start at the top, some at the bottom. Why would you yank this guys chain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurd Cudins Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 ??? Some "D"s start at the top, some at the bottom. Why would you yank this guys chain?I'm not. I wouldn't pay $20 for that. To me, it looks like a guy who had the players signatures and sat there quickly trying to match them without paying attention to certain details. When I was a kid I used to make a killing selling fake autographs. It is just about the easiest way in the world to make a quick buck. I always tell people that if you didn't see the guy sign it, he probably didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wshngtn1 Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 Thank you very much for the help naming everyone. I truly don't believe it is fake. My cousin got it from his good friend that is a memorabilia dealer. He sent the COA also...which I guess could always be fake too. Bottom line...I didn't pay a penny for it, it is a nice gift and it's gonna look very good in my Redskins bar. Thanks again guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFK Lives Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Thank you very much for the help naming everyone.I truly don't believe it is fake. My cousin got it from his good friend that is a memorabilia dealer. He sent the COA also...which I guess could always be fake too. Bottom line...I didn't pay a penny for it, it is a nice gift and it's gonna look very good in my Redskins bar. Thanks again guys. Redskin Bar? Sounds great, post a pic when you can or when it is completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72SKINS Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I hate to be the bearer of bad news' date=' but ALL those are signed by the same guy. Look at common letters in hte name. Peoples R's and D's and such are VERY distinct. The one's in this are not. It is a forgery. Sorry.[/quote']Its not a fake ! from my experience I am pretty certain they are real . Monk,Bostic,Warren, Schroeder, Mckenzie and Olkewics are definetely real. as for the rest not 100% certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Its not a fake ! from my experience I am pretty certain they are real . Monk,Bostic,Warren, Schroeder, Mckenzie and Olkewics are definetely real.as for the rest not 100% certain. How can you tell that? The signatures on this look exactly the same as some you know are real? That's what a professional forger does. I'm not saying they're forged but I really don't see a way you can be sure by looking at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRock Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I dont think so. Me either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72SKINS Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 How can you tell that? The signatures on this look exactly the same as some you know are real? That's what a professional forger does. I'm not saying they're forged but I really don't see a way you can be sure by looking at it. Well you are correct at that. In my opinion they are real I have multiple signatures from each of the guys that i listed and those are pretty much the same. If they are forged it was done by more than one guy. Besides most of these players are not worth very much in the market and if they were fake the guy/gal spent quite a bit time learning the various styles of each signature. Its not worth their time or effort when there are much more desirable and profitable players out there.. Its a collectors opinion.. thats all so take it for what its worth.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideshow24 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 The picture of Art Monk is a fake. He didn't look like that at all. Check out his butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDevil Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Awesome man! I have a 89 jersey signed by Moss/Portis/Cooley and I watched them all sign it myself so I know its real. These look real but I am not sure. You can always mail it out to one of those places that determine authenticity if you really want to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Worthy Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 The picture of Art Monk is a fake. He didn't look like that at all. Check out his butt. Ummmmmm....what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wshngtn1 Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 The picture of Art Monk is a fake. He didn't look like that at all. Check out his butt. LOL..yeah, the painting of Monk isn't the best, but his sig is on the painting itself so it's staying put. Otherwise I would probably put something else in the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneBoost Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 It is a forgery. Sorry. Being sitting down the the booze when you wrote that? Could be fake, we'll never know, but what you said isn't valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wshngtn1 Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 Besides most of these players are not worth very much in the market and if they were fake the guy/gal spent quite a bit time learning the various styles of each signature. Its not worth their time or effort when there are much more desirable and profitable players out there.. Exactly. A forger only needs to learn how to forge Manning, Tomlinson and Brady and they could probably be set for life. Why would they waste time with Ken Huff......no offense Ken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Awesome man! I have a 89 jersey signed by Moss/Portis/Cooley and I watched them all sign it myself so I know its real. These look real but I am not sure. You can always mail it out to one of those places that determine authenticity if you really want to be sure. Just curious, how do they figure that out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDevil Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Just curious, how do they figure that out? www.google.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 www.google.com OK, I thought you had some knowledge of it because you said that you can send it off to be analyzed for authenticity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurd Cudins Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Being sitting down the the booze when you wrote that? Hi kettle, I'm black. Wesley Snipes black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDevil Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I dont know what the process in itself is, I just know of it. But if you were truly interested wouldnt you look it up yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneBoost Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Hi kettle' date=' I'm black. Wesley Snipes black.[/quote']Oh okay, well in that case, you're excused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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