#98QBKiller Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Rift seen in Iraq insurgency -- some groups reject al Qaeda POSTED: 3:20 p.m. EDT, June 8, 2007 Full Article: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/07/penhaul.iraq/index.html Video: http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/world/2007/06/08/penhaul.bed.insurgents.cnn By Karl Penhaul CNN BUHRUZ, Iraq (CNN) -- U.S. forces have begun arming nationalist guerrillas and former Saddam Hussein loyalists -- and coordinating tactics -- in a marriage of convenience against al Qaeda radicals in one of Iraq's most violent provinces, senior U.S. commanders tell CNN. This new alliance, a result of the deepening divisions among Iraqi insurgent factions, was on display earlier this week at a highway intersection in the town of Tahrir. There, a group of some 15 insurgents publicly chanted: "Death to al Qaeda." "The al Qaeda organization has dominated and humiliated Sunnis, Shiites and jihadis. It has forced people from their homes. They can't get enough blood. They killed many honest scholars, preachers and loyal mujahedeen," one of the group's spokesmen read from a written manifesto. It's a sharp turnaround from just two months ago when the same insurgent forces were focused on fighting U.S. troops and driving them out of Diyala province, about 40 miles north of Baghdad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 hmmmmm things like this make me feel like we should carry on through the occupation, as long as they aren't playing us for fools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 do we ever learn from past mistakes? isn't that how we got into this mess in the first place, arming guerillas to fight the commies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 do we ever learn from past mistakes?isn't that how we got into this mess in the first place, arming guerillas to fight the commies? My first thought exactly. In 10-20 years we'll be arming al-Qaeda to fight these guerrillas :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 do we ever learn from past mistakes?isn't that how we got into this mess in the first place, arming guerillas to fight the commies? we never carried through in Afghanistan after the commies were expelled, we let the crazies have the country instead of finding some better alternatie... i think this situation is a bit different. in Afghanistan we supported religious crazies to fight a relatively decent Afghan government plus the Russians. in this case we are using nationalists interested in fighting the people who want chaos. or at least that's the hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 we never carried through in Afghanistan after the commies were expelled, we let the crazies have the country instead of finding some better alternatie... i think this situation is a bit different. in Afghanistan we supported religious crazies to fight a relatively decent Afghan government plus the Russians. in this case we are using nationalists interested in fighting the people who want chaos.or at least that's the hope well i just hope this doesn't come and bite us on the ass, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 My first thought exactly. In 10-20 years we'll be arming al-Qaeda to fight these guerrillas :doh: These "guerillas" are Iraqi tribesmen who have decided to work with and for the government...you remember, the one we hope will represent all of Iraq If the State dept hadn't tried to work around the tribes Iraq might easily have been further along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 These "guerillas" are Iraqi tribesmen who have decided to work with and for the government...you remember, the one we hope will represent all of Iraq Then why the Eff don't they do something really radical, like joining the Army? (You remember, the one that represents all of Iraq, and also is authorized by the government, has a publicly-identifiable chain of command, and wears uniforms?) :halo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Maybe because the Army has been infiltrated by Al-Qaeda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted June 9, 2007 Author Share Posted June 9, 2007 Then why the Eff don't they do something really radical, like joining the Army? (You remember, the one that represents all of Iraq, and also is authorized by the government, has a publicly-identifiable chain of command, and wears uniforms?) :halo: Good question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Then why the Eff don't they do something really radical, like joining the Army? (You remember, the one that represents all of Iraq, and also is authorized by the government, has a publicly-identifiable chain of command, and wears uniforms?) :halo: If you care to look into it they ARE joining the army in record numbers. There is also value in some like these that are beyond Maliki's control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Politics makes strange bedfellows. And a million other applicable clichés, all yours for three easy payments of just $14.95 each! ~Bang Zoom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanos Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 This sounds like the Contras all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 The enemy of my enemy is my friend.Politics makes strange bedfellows. And a million other applicable clichés, all yours for three easy payments of just $14.95 each! ~Bang Zoom! Money Talks Talk is Cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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