EliMustDie28 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 he was supposed to work with these two this offseason, i havent heard anything about it. if he did i hope they taught him how to catch better. damn i would write more but my wife is yelling at me to go.does anyone know if c rog ever really got some help from these two? I like rogers i just wish he could catch picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfriedm Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Doesn't matter. There is no help for Carlos "No D" Rogers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptChaos86 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Im interested to learn that as well. If he has or will work out with those 2 this offseason that should help him out a great deal. I think C-los will be a good corner in the league. And he just needs to get some of his mechanics down and learn how to catch. But if your gonna be the best you have to learn from the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Doesn't matter. There is no help for Carlos "No D" Rogers. Come on, man. Carlos clearly improved last year, and has played pretty solidly his two years here. Sure he got burned at times, but so did our entire defense. He will have a nice year, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAILBOMB9 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Come on, man. Carlos clearly improved last year, and has played pretty solidly his two years here. Sure he got burned at times, but so did our entire defense. He will have a nice year, I'm sure. "IMPROVED" last year? I hope you're joking. He was nothing less than pathetic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 "IMPROVED" last year? I hope you're joking. He was nothing less than pathetic! he was more productive than shawn springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebster21 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 "IMPROVED" last year? I hope you're joking. He was nothing less than pathetic! You do realize that PD are just less important than INT's right. Wow, I really hope this is not the idea of our entire fan base. I am guessing that this is a cowboy fan in disguise. Would not be the first or the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangars Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Come on, man. Carlos clearly improved last year, and has played pretty solidly his two years here. Sure he got burned at times, but so did our entire defense. He will have a nice year, I'm sure. Dude you're kidding, right? Carlos was horrendous last year. He couldn't catch a cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAILBOMB9 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 You do realize that PD are just less important than INT's right. Wow, I really hope this is not the idea of our entire fan base. I am guessing that this is a cowboy fan in disguise. Would not be the first or the last. Wow, the whole "you're not a true fan" or "you must be a Cowboy fan" in less than 3 posts after I speak the truth about Carlos. I didn't know those were coming. Are those on speed response or something...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangars Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 You do realize that PD are just less important than INT's right. Wow, I really hope this is not the idea of our entire fan base. I am guessing that this is a cowboy fan in disguise. Would not be the first or the last. When you drop the ball when it hits you squarely in your hands, INT's are definately more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan81 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I hope he got some help somewhere. He just looked awful last year. Potential is there, just got to find a way to tap into that potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uno Mas Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Dude you're kidding, right? Carlos was horrendous last year. He couldn't catch a cold. Judging by your sig, I bet you think ST was the man last year. In fact, ST was just as miserable as Rogers. But your right about one thing, Carlos needs major help on his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 rogers is a good corner. he suffered from playing too far off of receivers because we did not get any pressure. did he get torched a few times? sure, every CB in the league will get pwned a few times during the season, rogers just had a knack for making his torchings look really really bad. but he had a ton of PDs, plenty of INT chances, if he held on to 4 of those pics that he dropped, half of this board would be claiming he was a pro bowler. get him a pass rush and some super glue, rogers is a beast. no one seems to remember he might be one of the best CBs in the league in run stopping, i dont know any corners (other than clements) who hit like a mack truck. rogers can lay wood with the best of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 he was more productive than shawn springs. Not when they were both playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Wow, the whole "you're not a true fan" or "you must be a Cowboy fan" in less than 3 posts after I speak the truth about Carlos. I didn't know those were coming. Are those on speed response or something...? You have confused the meanings for the words "truth" and "opinion". Rogers, in my humble opinion, was neither horrendous or great last year. He suffered some growing pains like many 2nd year corners do (Smoot, Bailey, Newman) and was not helped by the fact that we had zero pass rush plus injuries and ineffectual play by other members or the secondary, leaving him out on an island way too much. I do however agree that accusing you of being a Cowboy fan just because you think he played poorly is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAILBOMB9 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Judging by your sig, I bet you think ST was the man last year. In fact, ST was just as miserable as Rogers. But your right about one thing, Carlos needs major help on his hands. Did you just twist his sig into a retaliatory comment towards him because he didn't agree with your "opinion"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sableholic Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Rogers wasn't horrendous by any means. Was he good? Not really. But again there is more to being a cb than getting INT's. He came up with a good number of deflections when we needed it (see Saints game among others). I thought as the year went on he got a lot better (not sure if those new gloves helped him, the yellow ones that he started wearing later on). Anyways, as someone said Springs is still our best cb when healthy, but hopefully this year Rogers can continue to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Ugh here we go again, hating on Rogers ... :doh: Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I firmly believe that Carlos will emerge as our #1 corner in the next few years. He has all the physical tools there, he just needs to learn to catch the damn ball, which is easily fixable. During those couple of games when our defense was actually playing some ball, Rogers extremely well. He even shut down Steve Smith for crying out loud! I don't know about you, but I think it's a pretty good sign when a 2nd year corner, thrust into the starting role for most of the season, is able to shut down an elite receiver. Shawn Springs won't be here much longer, but I can easily forsee a Rogers/Smoot CB tandem with Landry and Taylor for the next few years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 rogers is a good corner. he suffered from playing too far off of receivers because we did not get any pressure. did he get torched a few times? sure, every CB in the league will get pwned a few times during the season, rogers just had a knack for making his torchings look really really bad. but he had a ton of PDs, plenty of INT chances, if he held on to 4 of those pics that he dropped, half of this board would be claiming he was a pro bowler. get him a pass rush and some super glue, rogers is a beast. no one seems to remember he might be one of the best CBs in the league in run stopping, i dont know any corners (other than clements) who hit like a mack truck. rogers can lay wood with the best of them. Thankfully, someone who knows what they are talking about. Rogers had no pass rush, and our rush comes from our blitzing, and because of injuries, we couldn't pressure the QB. Because we had Mike freaking Rumph playing on the other side of Rogers, we had to roll all of our coverage to protect his sorry ass. Rogers RARELY had help. I'd be curious to see how many CBs could cover a guy 1 on 1, for 10 seconds. Not many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Not when they were both playing. wrong again. rogers was more effective in the saints game AND the panthers game. springs gave up the only TD pass in that game, and even though it was a great move by smith, he still gave up the TD. and rogers covered smith a good portion of that game as much as people like to think otherwise. there was a picture of rogers playing on smith on redskins.com, i wish id saved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buenosdiaz Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 to answer the question..i hope so cuz since i read it on the message board a few months ago thats all i have been saying to my cowboy and giant friends lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Rogers towards the end of the year improved as a cover corner. As a playmaking corner, he was horrible all year. I still remember the punt that dropped in front of bounced, hit him in the chest, rolled down his arms, tickled through his hands, before finally squirting between his legs for a touchback. He had something like five opportunities to catch the ball and couldn't. I hope Carlos was able to find and destroy that voodoo doll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyno Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 You have confused the meanings for the words "truth" and "opinion". Rogers, in my humble opinion, was neither horrendous or great last year. He suffered some growing pains like many 2nd year corners do (Smoot, Bailey, Newman) and was not helped by the fact that we had zero pass rush plus injuries and ineffectual play by other members or the secondary, leaving him out on an island way too much. I do however agree that accusing you of being a Cowboy fan just because you think he played poorly is silly. :applause: :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeronimobrat Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I wonder, is anyone re-thinking the draft of 2005 when we landed C-los. Alot of individuals (including I) were clamoring for Arrington's former self (Merriman) and not thinking of the magnitude of our cornerback position. That year when we played Seattle in the playoffs, Hasselbeck had thrown an interceptible ball into the hands of C-los. What made it so compelling why how he anticipated the timing of the route (sure brought memories of Champ). I believe that Carlos has the potential to explode if collaborated with special talent around him. He is not merely as bad as those who concentrate on the little things to complain about such as catchable balls. Question: has anybody who's played receiver felt a shaking sensation in their hands when they're in the process of making a catch? Nervous anxiety :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underwater Ally Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 "IMPROVED" last year? I hope you're joking. He was nothing less than pathetic! As was our entire secondary. The thing is, Rogers was asked to be our number 1 corner with little saftey help when Springs went down. Rogers is only in his second year. Usually it takes a cornerback until his thrid season to really come into his own. Cut the dude some slack. This will be the season where we can start to make a judgement as to weather or not he can hold the position down or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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