lavar1156 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 From ESPN.com We're told the Buccaneers covet WR Calvin Johnson and will trade up to land him, if necessary. Sources tell us the Buccaneers have an extra second-round pick -- acquired from Indianapolis in the Anthony McFarland trade last season -- that they would be willing to deal and, with a surplus of quarterbacks, Chris Simms or Jake Plummer could be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronicdesi Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Nothing really new, most of us figure TB will take up CJ if he's available at the pick. That's why most of the guys have been hoping to trade up to 2 to get CJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsManNJ Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Question is do the Lions (most likely trade partner) prefer what we have over the Bucs. I think the Lions want a player and not a plethera of draft picks. So it could be possible that we already have the gentlemans deal with the Lions that we have heard about. Plus the Lions wanted Springs before when we were trying to get Bly. So maybe we have the upper hand in CJ sweepstakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 And in other news, the sun will rise tomorrow and cats meow. Film at 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampSkinsFanatic Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 damn the Bucs have a second round to offer to? F them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilbur58z Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Nothing really new, most of us figure TB will take up CJ if he's available at the pick. That's why most of the guys have been hoping to trade up to 2 to get CJ. Tampa's trading up to ensure getting him....that's the point of the article if you read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronicdesi Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 We have an upper hand if we are willing to give up players, but sometimes you have to wonder is it worth it. Heres how it would stack up for us: 1) We give up a good, if not shut down, corner (not easy to come by) 2) We would be taking a cap hit. 3) We don't draft a defensive player (now losing two total including Springs) 4) We pay more for a number 2 draft pick than a 6. 5) We may have to give up a pick from next year's draft. Yeah we have more to offer, but we have a lot more to lose too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilbur58z Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 The Redskins have nothing close to the firepower Tampa has. The Bucs could easily trade up to #1 if they wanted. They could trade Oakland their 1st, 2nd and either their 3rd or 4th rounder and it would equal the #1 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweezel Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Ever think of the possibility that the Skins are seeing what it takes to get the #2 spot so they can be an intermediary? Example, TB trades with the Skins for the 6 then will trade with the Lions for #2. As an example it makes sense because the Skins could get a second rd pick and TB could then trade a player and the 6 for their #2. This assumes that trading picks for draft day is not as cut and dry as it may seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianm23 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 damn the Bucs have a second round to offer to? F them Yeah, they don't have moronic front office folks handing them out like candy over in Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Time to give up talks of CJ. Trade down, recoup a pick or two, and take Okoye, Branch, Anderson, or Carriker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Even in Tampa trades up with Detroit and the Lions are serious about Adams instead of Quinn, that works in our favor. Quinn would be available at #6 and teams will come calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsevier Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Question is do the Lions (most likely trade partner) prefer what we have over the Bucs. I think the Lions want a player and not a plethera of draft picks. So it could be possible that we already have the gentlemans deal with the Lions that we have heard about. Plus the Lions wanted Springs before when we were trying to get Bly. So maybe we have the upper hand in CJ sweepstakes. I really don't think too many remember the dead cap hit we would suffer if we traded Springs. We are not far enough under the cap for him to be released or traded this year. So I don't believe we have what it would take to move up to #2 without mortaging the future. Furthermore, if we were able to unload him then I think the cap hit alone would suck up any money we had hoped to use to sign the #2 pick. So this theory needs to be redone without Springs in the mix IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastes Like Chicken Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 If we bite the bullet and keep him this year, do we keep him for good? I think his cap # is about the same for the next 3 years. Will it be any less painful to cut/trade him later? If not, I'd cut my losses now while he carries some value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptChaos86 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Please let them take him. We do NOT need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossman_SKins Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 We have an upper hand if we are willing to give up players, but sometimes you have to wonder is it worth it. Heres how it would stack up for us:1) We give up a good, if not shut down, corner (not easy to come by) 2) We would be taking a cap hit. 3) We don't draft a defensive player (now losing two total including Springs) 4) We pay more for a number 2 draft pick than a 6. 5) We may have to give up a pick from next year's draft. Yeah we have more to offer, but we have a lot more to lose too. :applause: :applause: :applause: couldnt of put it better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilbone13 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 D-lineman!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel2 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Even in Tampa trades up with Detroit and the Lions are serious about Adams instead of Quinn, that works in our favor. Quinn would be available at #6 and teams will come calling. This is why I advocate staying put at #6. We might very well recoup a pick if we are resolute with our options having the #6 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 We have an upper hand if we are willing to give up players, but sometimes you have to wonder is it worth it. Heres how it would stack up for us:1) We give up a good, if not shut down, corner (not easy to come by) 2) We would be taking a cap hit. 3) We don't draft a defensive player (now losing two total including Springs) 4) We pay more for a number 2 draft pick than a 6. 5) We may have to give up a pick from next year's draft. Yeah we have more to offer, but we have a lot more to lose too. If we trade #6 and Springs for #24 or 28 and Samuel, why cant we pick up a D-lineman with the #24 or 28 pick??? Plenty of D-lineman still on the board at 24 or 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronicdesi Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 If we trade #6 and Springs for #24 or 28 and Samuel, why cant we pick up a D-lineman with the #24 or 28 pick??? Plenty of D-lineman still on the board at 24 or 28. The trade I was summing up was refering to the number 2 pick of Detroit, not to NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Raiders might be in the way, too. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/michael_silver/04/05/strong.arms/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Looks like there is too much interest in CJ for the Skins to get him. The trade down for more picks scenario is looking better and better if Quinn or Peterson falls to number six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwayMonster31 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Now this could really work out great for Detroit, they already said they want Adams and can trade down to get him. They can also get a cover-2 style defensive back with that 2nd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 The more they talk about Tampa Coveting CJ the more I think its a smoke screen for really wanting Gaines Adams. They know Detroit is looking at DE, so in order to out fox them they have to make them think they want a player they don't really need. Tampa's Dline was well worse than ours last year, THey don't have sapp, and rice is on borrowed crutches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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