Larry Brown #43 Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 Here's a point I don't think anyone has brought up. Technically, Ramsey should not have been allowed to enter the game last night to throw that final pass. According to the Fox commentators during the game and the Post this morning, Matthews was the backup QB to Wuerffel yesterday. That would make Ramsey the "emergency third" QB. The emergency third QB is not permitted to enter the game unless both the starting QB and the backup QB sustain injuries. Having said that, Spurrier is a fool if he doesn't give Ramsey the ball starting next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 Wouldn't it have been funny then if his hail mary was caught for a TD. Dallas would have challenged it, and the TD would have been overturned. That is BAD COACHING. I wish Spurrier would get his head out of his a$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKurp Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 Uh, I believe that rule only applies if the third quarterback was declared inactive before the game. Obviously Ramsey was declared active for yesterday's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted November 29, 2002 Author Share Posted November 29, 2002 Originally posted by TheKurp Uh, I believe that rule only applies if the third quarterback was declared inactive before the game. Obviously Ramsey was declared active for yesterday's game. The way I understand it, you don't have a choice. The third QB is automatically inactive, unless the first two QBs get hurt. It's not a choice, it's a rule. That's the way I understand it. That's why the third QB is called the "emergency third" QB. He can only play in case of an emergency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trevor Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 I thought the rule was that if the third stringer entered the game without the #1 and #2 guys being hurt, then the #3 guy had to finish the entire game, the #1 or #2 can't come back no matter what. Dunno maybe too much :high: has my memory not right on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted November 29, 2002 Author Share Posted November 29, 2002 I'm trying to look this rule up. I'm not finding any good rulebook source online yet, but I'll keep looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 I think you're right Trevor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 Trevor's right and its exactly what Sonny was saying on the radio yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 I also think there's a 4th quarter clause to that rule, the #3 guy can enter in the 4th quarter. But maybe that's just my imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 I'm pretty sure TCO is right here. I remember that from some old video game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashback Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 I don't think the 'Skins should have been able to run that play, anyway. The Fox announcers were saying that there was supposed to be 10 seconds run off the clock becuase of the penalty on the play where Wuerffel spiked the ball. But I don't think either situation, the missed run-off or the 3rd QB issue, would have been reviewable if the play had resulted in a TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted November 29, 2002 Author Share Posted November 29, 2002 Originally posted by flashback I don't think the 'Skins should have been able to run that play, anyway. The Fox announcers were saying that there was supposed to be 10 seconds run off the clock becuase of the penalty on the play where Wuerffel spiked the ball. But I don't think either situation, the missed run-off or the 3rd QB issue, would have been reviewable if the play had resulted in a TD. True, and even if the play were reviewable I'm sure we would have gotten the extra point off before they could review it. But whether we would have made the extra point or not is a whole other story. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennesseeCarl Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 I think there is such a rule and that we probably violated it. But why on earth is there a rule like that? What's it's point? What is the league trying to achieve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted November 29, 2002 Author Share Posted November 29, 2002 Originally posted by TennesseeCarl I think there is such a rule and that we probably violated it. But why on earth is there a rule like that? What's it's point? What is the league trying to achieve? There's no rhyme or reason in the NFL. If you tackle a guy and then clap your hands, you can get flagged for taunting. But if you walk into the endzone like a f**king pea****, it's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins57 Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 Originally posted by TennesseeCarl I think there is such a rule and that we probably violated it. But why on earth is there a rule like that? What's it's point? What is the league trying to achieve? The only thing I can think of is it is a way to keep an extra active spot on the roster. That's all I can come up with. Why the hell was Ramsey the 3rd anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathByLinebacker Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 I think the rule is off in the 4th quarter and it was fine to put Ramsey in. It's a silly rule anyways. Why don't they just let all 53 suit up and play? I've heard Spurrier and Jim Hasslet both complain about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted November 30, 2002 Share Posted November 30, 2002 You guys are all right in a combination. The emergency QB can come in in the 4th quarter no matter what. It is before that that he has to come in only if the other two QB's go down or he has to finish the entire game. You all got it right, just had to put the pieces together. I know this because the announcers on the Giants' game were talking about Garret being able to come in and do the holding when the Giants' kicking woes began. Garret is the emergency QB so they went through the rule of the emergency QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 30, 2002 Share Posted November 30, 2002 A possible reason for "Why?": The folks in the stands (and the folks who bought TV ads) paid to see The Brett Favre Show, not his backup. (Now, I think a case could be made, that watching Favre's backup's backup, when he's up by 21, might be more interesting than watching Favre when he's up by 35. And I think the league would benefit from anything that helps teams grow more QBs. But I think that's why there's a rule: people paid to see the stars). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted November 30, 2002 Share Posted November 30, 2002 technically, if the official approached Spurrier about that, couldn't Spurrier just lie anyway and say, "umm, yah Danny's shoulder was bothering him so he had to come out" I mean what qualifies as "injured" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins4Life Posted November 30, 2002 Share Posted November 30, 2002 I personally, don't see what the big hoopla over this is all about anyway. Its the official's responsibility for enforcing "the rules" and we all know they haven't been exactly doing that with us this whole year anyway. The way I see it, is that its about time the officials show a bit more leniency towards us in those little things. Its not like it mattered anyway. The outcome is still the same. :gus: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougWilliams Posted November 30, 2002 Share Posted November 30, 2002 Either 1 or 2 can come back in the fourth quarter. But i thought the third qb had to be declared inactive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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