Quixote Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 My name on my preferred poker site was "FartJack." So get those giggles out before proceeding. --------- Hello FartJack, Thanks for contacting us. As per your request, we have closed your account under user ID 'FartJack'. Please let us know, if by any chance possible, the reason why you wanted to terminate your account. If you are dissatisfied with the features offered by our client program and/or there was a support issue that was not handled properly, we would really like to be aware so we can work on improvements. Your feedback is truly appreciated. I look forward to your response. Regards, Juan PokerStars Support Team ----------------------------- Dear PokerStars Support Team, The reasons I signed off is probably not exclusive to pokerstars. I loved the program as it was aesthetic, funtional, and met my needs as an online poker player. Quite frankly, Juan, I got tired of crappy players. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a great poker player and I know I made PLENTY of terrible and unjustifiable calls which led to my own downfall. The reason I quit Internet poker is that I could no longer handle the mental anguish that comes with people calling large pre-flop bets with hands like 10-2 off suit. Especially when there are still plenty of people acting behind them and callers before them. Whats worse is that these people, I watched, were chip leaders. Watching other people succeed by making the same calls that made me lose was aggravating beyond all description. I seriously doubt that sanity would have stayed with me if I continued to throw my money away hoping to beat these guys. If you have pointers on how to completely avoid players like these, I'll sign back up. I don't know how you guys program luck, but I know for certain, within PokerStars, that I was left out of that equation. Respectfully yours, FartJack ------ Thought I'd share my situation with the ES family, incase anyone needed to know they weren't alone.... Question is, am I alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sk1nzHEAD Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 thats why I only play tournaments 10 dollar buy in or more. those people dont thrive on tourneys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 :laugh: I took a bunch of your money the other night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 this is why i only play poker when i can see my opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixote Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 :laugh: I took a bunch of your money the other night. you mean, my dollar? may you loose it to that 10-2 nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blighty Skins Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Ha...I see I'm not the only one who tore his hair out because of that and left also. Completely spoilt it for me...idiots who not only frustrate you but take the fun out of playing. Have you noticed how if you play with "fake" chips nobody plays like that? Yet, strangely, when you go inside the real money poker rooms...there is always at least one. I got paranoid and started trying to suss out if they were either bots working for the poker site or real people working in unison with each other...whatever....it smelt bad and I was out in a flash. I see you came to your senses too. :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUforREDSKINS Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Oh yea I stopped putting money into online poker too. First off, neteller doesn't put money into poker sites anymore (I think, am I wrong?) and because I saw some truly unbelievable things happen quite often. Not that I am saying that it couldn't happen with real cards but it was just too much. And the conspiracy theorist in me thinks that there might be some program in place to give several people big hands, which means that lots of money goes in the pot and that means that the website takes more money in rake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borninblood Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 there are programs you can get that will predict the cards the sites are supposed to look out for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 there are programs you can get that will predict the cards the sites are supposed to look out for this how do they predict the cards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borninblood Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 i havent used one so i have no clue.. ive just heard of them.. it"s some kind of odds generator... i guess it just assumes the order they will come out based on what is out and what you have. you have to remember the cards dealt are dealt with a program.. all programs have some kind of order to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixote Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 They can be predicted because you can't truly program something to be random. I may be wrong, but its coming from the assumption that mathematics are be predictable. The only truly random variable is the player's actions. Feel free to mock me if i'm wrong. :dunce: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 They can be predicted because you can't truly program something to be random. I may be wrong, but its coming from the assumption that mathematics are be predictable.The only truly random variable is the player's actions. Feel free to mock me if i'm wrong. :dunce: you are correct, a computer can not possibly come up with a truly random number. i'm just curious as to how a program that can predict another program works.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aREDSKIN Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 They can be predicted because you can't truly program something to be random. I may be wrong, but its coming from the assumption that mathematics are be predictable.The only truly random variable is the player's actions. Feel free to mock me if i'm wrong. :dunce: All the online sites I've played at, for play money, have all been very predictible- 80-90% of the time there will be an A or a pair on the board. Pretty coincidental for a "random" dealer as they claim. Every table, different stakes, all the same. I even call the cards and people think I'm a house player. lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxtornado Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 10-2 offsuit is the mortal nuts, just ask Doyle Brunson......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnFoRcEr_uPu Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Yea, no worries, I feel your pain. I was at a tourney in Baltimore the other night, free buy-in. I'm practically all in on the first hand with 2-pair. Flop comes out and there's nothing on the table, but the guy beside me is betting just like the people you are talking about. You know he doesn't have ****, but since he didn't pay anything he's just throwing out money. River comes and he goes all in, so of course I call him expecting to double-up right out of the gate. Turns out he got the card he needed for a straight on the river and took everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpath81 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 For the other posters who haven't quit, what do you use to deposit money into your account? I used to use FirePay but cannot anymore since our gov't passed a certain bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxtornado Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 For the other posters who haven't quit, what do you use to deposit money into your account? I used to use FirePay but cannot anymore since our gov't passed a certain bill. You can use ePassporte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blighty Skins Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 What pushed me over the egde was when I got a royal flush (king high) and won $1.48. Nobody even congratulated me for the hand...so I thought, they were either all bots or something. Anyway...it's weird..and if something is peculiar there's always something going on...you lot have just confirmed it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 That's why I quit online poker. Way too many maniacs out there. At a real table you may get one or two players like that, and you can make a lot of money off of them but when 6-7 players at a table will call anything with anything, it turns the table into a big roulette wheel. Well, that and it's WAY too easy to cheat. A few guys at the same table with Teamspeak can fleece you blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxtornado Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Sounds like some of you don't know how to adjust for these LAG games. Trust me, you'd rather the poker room be filled with these horrible player than good players - that's why you can make money playing. If everyone in online poker was a Daniel Negraneu, we'd all be broke. I'm no expert by a longshot, but I haven't had to redeposit in over a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 you are correct, a computer can not possibly come up with a truly random number. i'm just curious as to how a program that can predict another program works.. That's right and wrong.. Sure a computer can give you a complete random number, but you have to give it variables.. You can have a computer give you a random number between 1-100.. You won't know what number your going to get but you have to define the numbers it can give. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 That's why I quit online poker. Way too many maniacs out there. At a real table you may get one or two players like that, and you can make a lot of money off of them but when 6-7 players at a table will call anything with anything, it turns the table into a big roulette wheel.Well, that and it's WAY too easy to cheat. A few guys at the same table with Teamspeak can fleece you blind. Ventrilo ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixote Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 10-2 offsuit is the mortal nuts, just ask Doyle Brunson......... :read: mortal, mor·tal –adjective 1.subject to death; having a transitory life: all mortal creatures. :laugh: but I haven't had to redeposit in over a year. teach me your ways :notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blighty Skins Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Sounds like some of you don't know how to adjust for these LAG games. Trust me, you'd rather the poker room be filled with these horrible player than good players - that's why you can make money playing. If everyone in online poker was a Daniel Negraneu, we'd all be broke. I'm no expert by a longshot, but I haven't had to redeposit in over a year. No...I'd rather not play with "moron-bots/cheats" who raise pre-flop then just as soon-fold. Nobody in their right mind plays like that. How do you explain players who enter a poker room, raise pre-flop-fold, raise pre-flop-fold, raise pre-flop-fold...almost out of chips and then leave? It doesn't make sense and there's something behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 That's right and wrong.. Sure a computer can give you a complete random number, but you have to give it variables.. You can have a computer give you a random number between 1-100.. You won't know what number your going to get but you have to define the numbers it can give. the computer has an algorithm it uses to produce this so-called "random number", but if all the circumstances are the same (including the seed) it'll come up with the exact same "random number". there was once a man who's job it was to find faults in casino games that would allow the people to cheat the system (he was supposed to then inform his manager.) he discovered a glitch in a video roulette game that if he timed it just right, he could get it to come up with a particular number every time. he showed this to his family and they cheated the casino out of a bunch of money. if the roulette table could truly come up with a random number, then this glitch wouldn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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