Oldskool Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 http://www.kffl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199842 Tim Carter for R. Droughns. Per Sirius NFL radio. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2793305 Filling their need for a proven running back to team with youngster Brandon Jacobs, the New York Giants on Friday acquired Reuben Droughns from the Cleveland Browns in exchange for wide receiver Tim Carter, ESPN.com has learned. Cleveland has been shopping Droughns in trade talks since signing unrestricted free agent tailback Jamal Lewis to a one-year contract earlier this week. The Giants were seeking a tailback to replace the retired Tiki Barber. Droughns, 28, should provide the Giants a solid insurance policy and a veteran and tested back who can share the ball-carrying chores with Jacobs, a two-year veteran. Jacobs has been the complementary back to Barber, playing mostly in short-yardage and goal-line situations in his two NFL seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sableholic Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 interesting, so the Browns must be really comfortable with Lewis. That or they are still taking Peterson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceviker Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Interesting. I'm ok with seeing RD twice a year - I don't think he's much of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceviker Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 interesting, so the Browns must be really comfortable with Lewis. That or they are still taking Peterson. They're 100% taking Peterson. They only signed lewis for 1 year. I think the reason they signed Lewis is because there is talk of the Lions trading down and a team going ahead of the Browns to take Peterson before them. Just my :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 If I were a Giants fan, this move would not really get me excited. I am not much on Droughns, although they would not be giving up much in this deal. I thought they would try to get a quicker back to compliment Jacobs, not one that has a similar skill set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Burgundy Rhino Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 I think if nobody trades for him, the Browns would just outright release him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightbird Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Meh, this doesn't scare me. Droughns showed some stuff in Denver, but who hasn't? Plus he's no spring chicken either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaydana Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 For a moment I though that opening post said "Tom Carter" was that guy a CB bust or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Hefner 58 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Droughns doesn't scare you...But who's starting? B. Jacobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWUeagleMD Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Droughns doesn't scare you...But who's starting? B. Jacobs Neither of them scare me. And their essentially the same player. Bizzarre move if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Droughns doesn't scare you...But who's starting? B. Jacobs nope, no fear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTikiITrust Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 GREAT move for the Giants. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 The Browns have boxed themselves in with the Lewis signing and won't be able to get much for Droughns. He has a roster bonus due in a week and every team but New York and Green Bay has their backfields set. A player that in my mind has 3rd to 4th round value can now be had for next to nothing. Droughns has proven ability and could get you 1200 yards per year over the next 2-3 years. He's the consummate hard-nosed pro who will get what's there, pick up the blitz, and play hurt. Tim Carter is complete garbage - he looks like Tarzan but plays like Jane. He had the opportunity to step up (in his 5th season now) when Amani Toomer went down last year and couldn't get it done. He's like a bigger version of Taylor Jacobs. This is robbery if it goes down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC4 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 It's up on ESPNews now too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 The Browns have boxed themselves in with the Lewis signing and won't be able to get much for Droughns. He has a roster bonus due in a week and every team but New York and Green Bay has their backfields set. A player that in my mind has 3rd to 4th round value can now be had for next to nothing. Droughns has proven ability and could get you 1200 yards per year over the next 2-3 years. He's the consummate hard-nosed pro who will get what's there, pick up the blitz, and play hurt. Tim Carter is complete garbage - he looks like Tarzan but plays like Jane. He had the opportunity to step up (in his 5th season now) when Amani Toomer went down last year and couldn't get it done. He's like a bigger version of Taylor Jacobs. This is robbery if it goes down. Excellent assessment Dirk. But it would still seem to me that he would be a better fit GB than with the Giants. But I guess the G-Men made a better offer. What could be a worse offer than Carter? Maybe a boatload of that cheesehead-type apparel that never caught on. Some ties maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 I think the two Giants I fear most have already left the team (or are about to leave the team) Tiki + Strahan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 GREAT move for the Giants. Love it. "If you get McGahee or not, he is infinitely better than Brandon Jacobs. The fact you called him a just a change of pace for Jacobs makes me question all of your football knowledge." I agree with Westbrook about this. You guys should have traded for Mcgahee. Since when did Brandon Jacobs become a #1 option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTikiITrust Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 "If you get McGahee or not, he is infinitely better than Brandon Jacobs. The fact you called him a just a change of pace for Jacobs makes me question all of your football knowledge."I agree with Westbrook about this. You guys should have traded for Mcgahee. Since when did Brandon Jacobs become a #1 option? Why give up 3 picks for a guy who is extremely average in terms of production? And since Tiki Barber retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Why give up 3 picks for a guy who is extremely average in terms of production?And since Tiki Barber retired. I know he hasn't been given the opportunity to be the #1 guy, but he also hasn't proven himself yet. Mcgahee has proven to be a good starter in this league; all Brandon Jacobs has proven is that he's a decent-good goalline back, who benefited from Tikis work, how many touchdowns did Jacobs take from Tiki? How many touchdowns did Tiki have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Pressure Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 It's a good move, its just...well...the only thing that could kill us repeatedly no matter what was Tiki Barber. He is gone. Everything else just seems like a good thing for our defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Gut Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 :laugh: Jacobs and Droughns? are you ****ing kidding me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 :laugh: Jacobs and Droughns? are you ****ing kidding me? Droughs Averaged 3.4 yards a carry last year and had 4 TDs :laugh: We're supposed to be frightened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalSkinsFan Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Another thing worth mentioning is that both Droughns and Jacobs aren't backs that create their own holes and yards like Tiki. They both are pretty much straight ahead types, and need a top notch o-line to put up the great numbers. I don't see the Giants as having such a line. Mcgahee can at least can create on his own a bit, still not in Tiki's class tho, few backs are. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptr77 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Droughs Averaged 3.4 yards a carry last year and had 4 TDs :laugh: We're supposed to be frightened? LOL, you guys are all looking at this trade 100% wrong. The giants traded their 4th wr, who is a bust and has bad hands and runs bad routes. They traded him for a proven 1200 yard rusher twice in his career who can handle playing a full season. This does not mean the giants are not still looking at rhodes to split time with BJ or that they aren't going to draft guys like pittman, walker, booker, lynch, wolfe, etc... Tim Carter was a likely cut (moss drafted to play and carter is a bust) and droughns was a likely cut, by doing this trade the two teams just traded two guys who weren't succeeding in their present locations. Its not a big move and its not the solution to tiki retiring, but if BJ goes down or the giants don't get a smaller shiftier back, droughns and jacobs can combine for an average rushing attack at the very least behind the giants oline. The cleveland oline droughns had is not even comparable to the giants oline imo, and he did gain 1200 yards a season ago with over 4 ypc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptr77 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Another thing worth mentioning is that both Droughns and Jacobs aren't backs that create their own holes and yards like Tiki. They both are pretty much straight ahead types, and need a top notch o-line to put up the great numbers. I don't see the Giants as having such a line. Mcgahee can at least can create on his own a bit, still not in Tiki's class tho, few backs are. :2cents: I totally disagree about Jacobs. Check his ypc, pretty dang good for a short yardage and goallline back. Droughns you are right though, he needs a hole to hit, but once he is through he gains tough yards. Droughns needs a head of steam and a hole to be effective, Jacobs has been running in short yardage and goalline with teams knowing he's coming, I'd say he can make his own holes. Tiki NEVER made his own holes, he cut back to an alternate opening or changed his direction entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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