Redskins Reparations Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 There is something wrong with that isn't there jrock? I would not like to see him get released and sign with the calfboys though. Why is it everyone that leaves our team usually signs inside the division? Why the vandetta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 He would have to agree to a contract extension ala Jansen or Brunnell... Brunell didn't get an extension. He (for all intents and purposes) had his old contract torn up and got a one-year deal with no financial or practical commitments from either party after the '07 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus, Mary & Joe Gibbs Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 If he leaves via being cut for salary reasons and we don't get a guy like Dre Bly in return from a trade the Redskins secondary stinks next season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loxley Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Springs grew up a Cowboy fan...that's enough for me. GIVE HIM THE AXE!! :laugh: His dad played for them, you cant blame the son for the fathers mistake. :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMetal Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 I've been saying all along, we're stuck with each other. We can't replace him with anyone better this season, and he's still under contract to the Skins until they say otherwise. I agree he is starting to look more and more unsympathetic. I don't like the idea of someone trying to hold a team hostage in order to guarantee his security for the length of his deal. The best guarantee is to let your play dictate your value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 If we can't trade Springs or he won't buy his way out, then we should look to restructure. Here is what he is getting paid this next few years: 2007 4.9 2008 5.0 2009 6.0 If we signed him to a 4 year 19.2 mil deal, the payout would be the same. Here are my assumptions (year, salary, cap hit, cost to cut) 2007-2.50-6.25-12.50 2008-2.95-6.70-8.75 2009-4.25-8.00-5.00 2010-4.50-5.75-1.25 We would realistically need to keep Springs at least two years under this deal. In 2009 we could make him a June 1st cut and take hits of 3.75 mil in 2009 and 1.25 mil in 2010, which is very manageable. I think Springs has 2-3 more solid years, and while his cap hits may be higher than desired under this deal, there aren't many good restructuring options because of the signing bonus already paid on his previous deal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 i just wonder what our CB corp. is gonna look like. we have rogers and smoot now, wright is gone, rumph was waived last year, jimoh is a FA and hasnt been signed (to my knowledge) and it looks like springs is going to leave via trade/cut. that leaves us smoot and rogers, and that eubanks kid that portis was hyping up. hopefully we start to sign some smaller nickel type guys, or maybe we trade springs for a draft pick and sign a young corner. i actually feel ok about smoot and rogers if we can get a real pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 This is one situation where I have no problem with either Springs or the team. The team knows he isn't in the future plans like Smoot and Rogers are.Springs knows this, too. He also knows he may not be in anyone's future plans in another year or two. The 'Skins have no quarrel with paying his contract out for this year. I think he'll do that, but I also think this year is his last. Then you ask the question: do you trade him now and take a hit in talent and on the cap this year, or do you wait another year and hope you can find someone to take his place, but probably get nothing in return? nicely stated sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 i just wonder what our CB corp. is gonna look like. we have rogers and smoot now, wright is gone, rumph was waived last year, jimoh is a FA and hasnt been signed (to my knowledge) and it looks like springs is going to leave via trade/cut. that leaves us smoot and rogers, and that eubanks kid that portis was hyping up. hopefully we start to sign some smaller nickel type guys, or maybe we trade springs for a draft pick and sign a young corner. i actually feel ok about smoot and rogers if we can get a real pass rush. I see where you are coming from...but think it will require more than just one change on the DL to get that pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 If we can't trade Springs or he won't buy his way out, then we should look to restructure. Here is what he is getting paid this next few years:2007 4.9 2008 5.0 2009 6.0 If we signed him to a 4 year 19.2 mil deal, the payout would be the same. Here are my assumptions (year, salary, cap hit, cost to cut) 2007-2.50-6.25-12.50 2008-2.95-6.70-8.75 2009-4.25-8.00-5.00 2010-4.50-5.75-1.25 We would realistically need to keep Springs at least two years under this deal. In 2009 we could make him a June 1st cut and take hits of 3.75 mil in 2009 and 1.25 mil in 2010, which is very manageable. I think Springs has 2-3 more solid years, and while his cap hits may be higher than desired under this deal, there aren't many good restructuring options because of the signing bonus already paid on his previous deal.... disco...nice post. how do you break out bonus from base salary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 I see where you are coming from...but think it will require more than just one change on the DL to get that pass rush. and you are right. but we have to take steps. obviously were going to draft Dline help. but i mean, the only two starters i feel really confident on the dline at the moment are carter and a healthy griffin (and hopefully that isnt a stretch). daniels needs to go, golston is good for depth, but we need another good run stopping, decent pass rushing DE, and a huge DT. hopefully we can figure something out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailfrmDEN Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Think springs should go to the broncos for bly. Bly is younger durable and is a home town player. I live in denver and have not seen anything about him signing, just that the trade happened. Man so many holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 and you are right. but we have to take steps. obviously were going to draft Dline help. but i mean, the only two starters i feel really confident on the dline at the moment are carter and a healthy griffin (and hopefully that isnt a stretch). daniels needs to go, golston is good for depth, but we need another good run stopping, decent pass rushing DE, and a huge DT. hopefully we can figure something out. bingo!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Healthy, Springs is better than Bly but that's the question and I would only consider a trade if Washngton got fair or greater value plus don't trade Betts or Portis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Healthy, Springs is better than Blybut that's the question and I would only consider a trade if Washngton got fair or greater value plus don't trade Betts or Portis springs/betts/5th round pick to denver for champ bailey. hahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmw2301 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Springs needs to beat it, he is old and we need someone younger and less injury proned .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlhjr34 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 If we find a lop sided deal in our favor I say do it. Although, I'd be a little bit gun shy about it. Last year our Defense was clearly a lot more vulnerable with him out of the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Springs needs to beat it,.. What are you Michael Jackson? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman#21 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Ha That story is hillarious.:rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 If we find a lop sided deal in our favor I say do it. Although, I'd be a little bit gun shy about it. Last year our Defense was clearly a lot more vulnerable with him out of the lineup. we still sucked just as bad with him in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 the last game of the season against the giants, i saw shawn out in the parking lot after the game and patted him on his shoulder , the broken one, and said have a good offseason and rest up. he was like "man you cant do that i just broke that last week." i just looked at him and smiled. And you're proud about this??? Dude, truly, the team for you is the Eagles. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePreciating Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 I'll tell you right now, that trade with Denver where we get absolutely killed by losing Springs and Betts to get Bly might end up being a trade that saves the team this year. Without Springs or Bly, we cannot go all the way. I know we probably won't even with one of the two, but you still have to give yourself a chance. You play to win the game. If we're losing Springs either way, I'm fine with losing Betts as well to pick up Bly. I don't like it, but I understand the necessity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Day Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Healthy, Springs is better than Blybut that's the question and I would only consider a trade if Washngton got fair or greater value plus don't trade Betts or Portis Yep, As I said in the other thread, Denver screwed up and they are the ones stuck with a disgruntled, one year rental that they gave up two players and a pick for. If they want to trade him to us then they pay the premium this time. -We have springs under contract and we are not obligated to do anything. He is a wash on the cap if we trade, cut, or keep him. So If denver wants a deal then a one for one + our TJ Ducket picks returned is the only deal I would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Day Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 i just wonder what our CB corp. is gonna look like. we have rogers and smoot now, wright is gone, rumph was waived last year, jimoh is a FA and hasnt been signed (to my knowledge) and it looks like springs is going to leave via trade/cut. that leaves us smoot and rogers, and that eubanks kid that portis was hyping up. hopefully we start to sign some smaller nickel type guys, or maybe we trade springs for a draft pick and sign a young corner. i actually feel ok about smoot and rogers if we can get a real pass rush. I fully expect us to draft DT first and if we can't get a 2nd rounder in a trade down I expect us to trade next years #1 for a early 2nd and draft a DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuck Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 i am beginning to like him less and less every day now. why? That actually makes sense and he's not slamming the club. He'd be stupid not to suspect the club would release him in the summer. His numbers are high. He said he'd play for his full salary but he doesn't want the club to pretend like they are going to keep him simply to up his trade value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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