conkev12 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Rock and Betts need to realize that playing football is not a right--it's a privilege. I personally am annoyed by Betts' sense of entitlement given his history of injuries and inconsistency. If you can't produce on a consistent basis...you're out like A-Rod at bat. And why is Rock so upset? He's mainly a special teamer. It's not like he was going to get many carries anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatmeworry Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Maybe if Betts hadn't been constantly nursing an injury and was a little more flexible contract negotiations it might be a little differnce. BTW, sounds like you wouldn't be on the roster very long either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Shark Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 If it was really all about character, then Betts would be given a shot, Sellars would be rewarded for his hard work, we wouldn't be discussing this topic. Blah, blah, blah. Look buddy, this isn't little league. Not everyone gets a chance to start and touch the ball. The coaches obviously weren't happy with the way these guys were performing, so they went out and did what they thought needed to be done. It's their team. They get paid millions of dollars to do what they do. Let them coach. I don't here them complaining about what a crappy fan you are and your lack of support. Betts is young and is healthy. Everyone on this board says he has health problems....NOT! He had a hammy that held him out of 1 game last year. :doh: I can't even remember a season when Betts played a significant amount of time without getting injured. He's already been injured once this season and that was before preseason games started. Betts, meanwhile, missed the Cincinnati game and several days of practice with a nagging hamstring injury, causing uncertainty about his durability. Betts broke his arm in 2003 and missed seven games, and he sat out four last year with a sprained knee. http://www.forbes.com/business/healthcare/feeds/ap/2006/08/23/ap2969606.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwray420 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Theres no crying in football! Grow up you babies. If we don't perform at work, bossman brings in someone new. We are either better or worse than the competition and we either keep our job or lose it. AMEN! I've never seen so much whining before. This is unbelievable! I'm glad we have T.J. Duckett. Stop the crying! The coaching staff knows what's best. It's fine to express an opinion, but to act like we're the experts and see and know everything going on with the rb situation is ridiculous. Someone believes that T.J. would be a good addition to our backfield. Good. Bring him then. We all want wins, plan and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondie Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 AMEN! I've never seen so much whining before. This is unbelievable! I'm glad we have T.J. Duckett.Stop the crying! The coaching staff knows what's best. It's fine to express an opinion, but to act like we're the experts and see and know everything going on with the rb situation is ridiculous. Someone believes that T.J. would be a good addition to our backfield. Good. Bring him then. We all want wins, plan and simple. Where the heck is all this so called crying. Good God. They said one friggin thing yesterday......and all that is being said is they need to stop all the crying. BFD. SO they said one comment........get over it. I know they both went out and practiced and did what they needed to do. But, if it makes the posters on here feel big and bad to tell them to stop all the crying and stop acting like babies........then go for it big boys. Feel better now? Blondie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Like didn't this get discussed all yesterday , incuding by you dwills? Here, read this, take three aspirin, two mai-tai's, and a nap. http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2833267#post2833267 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I'm ***not ( :doh: ) thrilled with the trade either. That 3rd rounder could be better spent then for a short-yardage/back-up RB, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramit Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 sellers is the fullback, why should he care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huly Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Where the heck is all this so called crying.Good God. They said one friggin thing yesterday......and all that is being said is they need to stop all the crying. BFD. SO they said one comment........get over it. I know they both went out and practiced and did what they needed to do. But, if it makes the posters on here feel big and bad to tell them to stop all the crying and stop acting like babies........then go for it big boys. Feel better now? Blondie :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy The queen has spoken! About time I agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Pissed or not, they shouldn't be voicing this stuff to the media. Keep it in house, fellas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggins44 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Here is the deal. Betts has been nicked at one point or another each year he has been here. Last week he went out with the first team and IMO didn't do anything special. Football is a sport/business that is all about production. Much like any other business. If Betts and Cartwright had shown more production lately, then chances are this trade never would have happened. Gibbs and our FO have a responsibility to field the best team possible. If this means bringing in another RB...then so be it. Had we gone into the season with just Betts and Cartwright and the team failed, everyone would be pissed. It's a part of life, either you suck it up and produce or hit the highway. In any organization the top management has to do what is best for everyone. Regardless of popular opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 So, Mike Sellers has a whopping TWO carries in his NFL career....he has got to be kidding himself if he thinks that based off of a 26 yard performance against the 2nd team of the Jets that he was going to be the short yardage back...Duckett gives us beef and speed....I like Sellers more as a lead blocker, and an occasional threat inside the 10 coming out of the backfield from the play action....Honestly, I think Sellers role won't change much, but the NFL is a business (like Rock said), and I wouldn't be shocked to see Cartwright on another team before the season starts..he is the expendable one in this equation, unless we can move Betts for a pick..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwills1 Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 Most of these comments are "very touching". For the love of Gibbs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Betts is young and is healthy. Everyone on this board says he has health problems....NOT! He had a hammy that held him out of 1 game last year. Betts has missed significant time every training camp, he missed 7 games in 2003, missed FOUR games last year, (was hurt against St Louis which is why Rock had the opportunity to get his 100 yards against the worst run defense in the NFL), and he's been hurt this year. If you're the head coach, how smart are you to go into the season with 2 injured RB's? - I can't believe people are crying the blues because we went out and got some killer depth at a very important position, because it might hurt someone's feelings. I wonder if Carolina would have gone to the Superbowl last year if they had better RB depth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Did any of RB get upset when we added Lloyd or ARE, heck Patten just asked will you play the best player each week..... Did Wynn say anything about signing Carter... yes.. he wants to win a Super Bowl I didn't hear PP cry about signing AA If they are so worried about Duckett taking "their" spot... make it impossible for him to do so... but don't say anything to the media about it. though it is obvious that the media took comments out of context for a more dramatic effect, and the players aren't nearly as upset as it was made out to be. on the flip side, isn't it Ironic so many people getting emotional making knee jerk comments, about emotional knee jerk comments? :laugh: IMO none are in jeporady to get cut, or lose many snaps as they think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwills1 Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 The bottom line is that the players have the right to be mad. That is the only point I'm trying to make. It was obviously a surprise to the RB core. Stop talking to me about these guys being babies and wanting character guys. Sean Taylor who happens to be the best player on the team and best safey in the league....is he really a "character guy"? How much trouble to character guys into? Stop buying the wolf tickets. If they are pissed..they have every right to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappy434 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 AMEN! I've never seen so much whining before. This is unbelievable! I'm glad we have T.J. Duckett.Stop the crying! The coaching staff knows what's best. It's fine to express an opinion, but to act like we're the experts and see and know everything going on with the rb situation is ridiculous. Someone believes that T.J. would be a good addition to our backfield. Good. Bring him then. We all want wins, plan and simple. Where the heck is all this so called crying. Good God. They said one friggin thing yesterday......and all that is being said is they need to stop all the crying. BFD. SO they said one comment........get over it. I know they both went out and practiced and did what they needed to do. But, if it makes the posters on here feel big and bad to tell them to stop all the crying and stop acting like babies........then go for it big boys. Feel better now? Blondie I think he was talking about all the crying the ES'ers are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 If they are pissed..they have every right to be agreed, but keep it in house, express it to the coaches or FO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I think he was talking about all the crying the ES'ers are doing. bingo. - Look at the title of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwray420 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I think he was talking about all the crying the ES'ers are doing. That's exactly right. I'm just ticked that a lot of people are whining and moaning about something that I think is an overall good thing for the skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 yea, but you don;t take the whining public!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappy434 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 That's exactly right. I'm just ticked that a lot of people are whining and moaning about something that I think is an overall good thing for the skins. No kiddin' there's so many temper tantrums lately, you'd think that people felt like since Duckett arrived that..... Marcus Washington, Clinton Portis, Sean Taylor, Jason Campbell and Al Saunders were for some reason going to lose their jobs. Its wacko. I like Betts and Rock as much as the next guy, but production = playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photo4u Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Of course Betts and Rock have the right to be upset, no one is debating that. The problem lies with the fact that Betts, who for the record has NEVER made it through training camp and a season healthy, is now are number one running back. Rock is not an every down NFL RB, sorry but it's the truth. Is Rock a hard worker and team first guy, no doubt, but at some point talent needs to be shown to warrent back up type carry numbers. Sellers is a FB and is here to block first and foremost so people need to wipe the images of him getting 150 carries out of their head, that wasn't happening with or without TJ being here.Football it seems has yet again mirrored real life. A company has went out and made a new hire. If he out performs the current employees then guess who gets the promotion first, you guessed it the best guy. Betts and Rock need to stop being so insecure about their abilities and play football. How come CP doesn't whine and cry over this situatuion? Becasue CP knows he is better then Duckett and will be the number one RB when he is healthy. Stop making excuses for Betts and Rock and blaming Gibbs for making the team better. if you don't think that's what is going on then ask Ramsey, Coles, and Lavar if Gibbs cares more about the improvement of the team or giving overrated players shot after shot. Gibbs will make sure the best man plays as much as possible, not fan favorites. I made a mistake on one comment about Champ Bailey and one person jumped in and corrected me quick. I won't say who it is, but let's see. Lavar wanted to leave. Coles asked to be traded. So King Gibbs didn't really get rid of these players. Let me stop Gibbs is cool with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flave1969 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Betts - Missed 4 Games last year. Has missed 16 in a 4 year career, thats a quarter. He has missed a pre season game already this year. He scored no Rushing TD's last year. The most carries in any one season is 90, hardly going to take the load of Clinton with that production. Also with a genuine chance at starting he has failed to beat out both Kenny Watson and Trung Canidate. Sellers - Has amassed in 7 seasons the sum total of 2 carries. 3 good rushes this preseason does not win the short yardage specialist job. You would think after 7 seasons he would have filled that role already. Maybe just maybe the coaches know the best role for him and showed us it last year. Sellers will get his TD's in the passing game, count on it. Cartwright - I hope is not the odd man out because he plays his heart out and unlike Ladell has always maxed out in his limited playing time. He has more career Rushing TD's than Ladell and is a special teams expert. Clinton - Has said all off season that his aim is to get his carries down and average up. We now have a back who can genuinely carry the ball 120 times with added value. Duckett is a genuine short yardage threat. 31 TD's in 4 seasons is 8 more than Sellers, Betts and Cartwright combined. Clinton will get his yards, his TD's and maybe that ring. Bottom Line all the people now upset had at least four years in this league to show true value, if they had done so this would not have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
909997 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 i blame our RB's if they could have ran the ball without portis in the preseason we would't have traded for duckett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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