D'Pablo Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 This isn't to say that I'm scared of the offense's lack of output, but rather that this has absolutely no semblance of what Saunders likes to do. For instance, no motions before the snap. In the Coryell system, everything is predicated on pre-snap motion to confuse the defense. I saw a few stretch plays here and there, but not nearly as much as the up-the-gut man blocking plays. Moreover, there is absolutely no flow to the play calling. Everything seems so incredibly scripted. Whenever a play seemed to go wrong, we'd repeat it multiple times to limited success. This leads me to believe one thing: It's the friggin' preseason. We're evaluating individual players while trying desperately not to give away our playbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkosaurus Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 This isn't to say that I'm scared of the offense's lack of output' date=' but rather that this has absolutely no semblance of what Saunders likes to do. For instance, no motions before the snap. In the Coryell system, everything is predicated on pre-snap motion to confuse the defense. I saw a few stretch plays here and there, but not nearly as much as the up-the-gut man blocking plays. Moreover, there is absolutely no flow to the play calling. Everything seems so incredibly scripted. Whenever a play seemed to go wrong, we'd repeat it multiple times to limited success. This leads me to believe one thing:It's the friggin' preseason. We're evaluating individual players while trying desperately not to give away our playbook.[/quote'] nothing personal, but you really need to get up to speed....like read reskins.com....Saunders was explicit when he said that during preseason they would be running a totally vanilla offense and in particular they would *not* be using motion...they do not want to give other teams any possibility of gameplanning them prior to the regular season...while they could look at old KC film, this offense is a hybrid of Gibbs and Saunders schemes and philosophies... this is a pre-season game...the offense is supposed to be totally scripted...they're not here to win the game...they are here to evaluate players...so you're absolutely right in your assessment and this thread is pretty much over....but if watching the game caused you any anxiety with respect to our offense, you're "xanax" is easily found at redskins.com... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMonster Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 It's the friggin' preseason. We're evaluating individual players while trying desperately not to give away our playbook. This is the only part that matters. Everyone take a deep breath. We're going to be very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt [Redskins Fan] Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Yes, I agree. Let's sacrifice deception and effectiveness during the regular season so we can hang the Jets out to dry in week 2 of the preseason, especially considering that we've had this offense installed all of about seven months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 We're evaluating individual players while trying desperately not to give away our playbook. Interesting theory. I think I've seen it before. Oh, I KNOW! Pre-season last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SittingBull Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 It doesn't really matter as we should still be able to execute vanilla plays against vanilla defenses. We still got 2 games to gel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REEM10 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 When have yall seen the majority of any NFL teams main offense ran in the preseason? Please stop the madness!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmania123 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 I wish some of the folks on this board would just relax. I mean we lost two good players in the first pre-season game, and the coaches are doing every possible thing to avoid getting our players injured...this is pre-season. Players ARE getting evaluated. It can be a vanilla offense. AND why should we keep our first team in beyond a few series? I don't care if we lose every single pre-season game as long as we are ready roll on day 1 of the regular season. Please give it a rest. Coach knows what he is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demarc007 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 The offense will get better but still we must not expect so much initially. I'm expecting the O to struggle a little the first 3 or 4 games because it's a new system. It's just not realistic to expect 400 yards of total offense out of the gate. Just give them time and it will come together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Guys- Our opponents are running vanilla plays as well. All over our heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlinginSammy HOF '63 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 I need to stay away from here until the season begins. Too many negative Nancys. We could go back to what we had in Osaka, Japan....uh, no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Guys- Our opponents are running vanilla plays as well. All over our heads. flea flickers and reverses? not so vanilla to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowhead Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Guys- Our opponents are running vanilla plays as well. All over our heads. I would largely agree with this notion. Aside from the two flea flickers last week from Cincy and the double reverse last night, I'd say we've been given mostly vanilla looks in the preseason. I'd rather be vanilla and 0-4 in the preseason with little or no major injuries heading into the regular season. And if our first team O and D come out rusty against the Vikes because of that, then I'm not going to abandon ship. C'mon people, this is Joe Gibbs we're talking about. The end ALWAYS justifies the means where he is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9_to_42_td Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 We don't start playing until the last 6 games of the season anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeronimobrat Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 flea flickers and reverses? not so vanilla to me... :applause: While I will not to differ that alot (including myself) have been remotely disappointed to not see much production from the starting Offense; I am proud to see Jason Campbell finally look like our future! :point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmw2301 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Regular season will be a completely different story. Preseason means nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 It's cute when kids put down their Madden game and watch Redskin preseason thinking it should translate as in franchise mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 When you watch Redskins preseason games think of Allen Iverson's famous quote: We are talking about practice, practice not a GAME not a GAME practice.. See ya on Sept 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVA2Tampa Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Regular season will be a completely different story. Preseason means nothing... WERD...preseason is meaningless...hell, the Bucs lost to Miami last night, too...in the regular season, they would have wiped the field with the Fins...I pay no attention to preseason scores...coaches are evaluating individual players and positions, not trying to win games. In other words...RELAX, FOLKS!!! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHALEN Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 flea flickers and reverses? not so vanilla to me... Against our 2nd and 3rd string defense to boot. (you naysayers are killing me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizkiteer Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Our offense! I'm not concerned that we are not scoring, per cey. I'm really starting to get worried that we don't appear to be moving the ball well at all. Our starters appear to be struggling and our passing game seems to be lacking by Brunell not connecting with the WR or the our QB's making porr decisions, which lead to INT's. I'll put it perspective and realize that it is ONLY pre-season, but I should feel better if our team was at least getting first down on a regular basis. Yes, put me down as starting to get worried. Let's hope they get in sync and start making it happen (regardless of a Win or Loss). You feel the same? Is there something else that has caught your eye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAbrendan Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Saunders isn't showing anything in pre-season. It's talent evaluation. No motion, no Portis, no Lloyd or Moss. Base packages. Don't be worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 There are those here http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164927 who share your opinion and those who aren't worried at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APBT Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Although this is preseason, I would rather see our "Vanilla offense do a better job than the opposing teams vanilla offense and defense. Why are other teams with totally new Head coaches and new schemes fairing better than our group? We look bad. Simple mistakes whether they are scripted or not are still bad. Brunell throwing INTs; bad, Patten not making any type of effort when the ball is catchable; bad. It's early and I cant predict the future, but we suck now. Vanilla should be easy right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizkiteer Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 I have faith in the coaching staff and think the player talent is there. I really don't care if a pre-season game it won or lost, BUT I feel much more comfortable if the ball is at least moving down the field some. Granted, we are evaluating talent, but neither the starters or much of the back-ups are getting any first downs on a regular basis. Again, I'm sure the coaches and players will work it all out, but I hope it's sooner than later. Sure wouldn't want us to go into the regular season like this. Could be similar to Ravens several years ago, TOP defense gets tired being on the field all the time, while offense keeps doing 3 and out. Maybe it's being worred or maybe it's because I haven't finished my second cup of coffee yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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