CPstretch Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 this is a true offseason thread. I am going to put my picks for the 53 man roster in 2006: QB: Brunell, Campbell, Collins RB: Portis, Betts, Lumsden FB: Sellers, White TE: Cooley, Fauria, Johnson OT: Samuels, Molinaro OG: Dockery, Ndukwe C: Rabach, Pucillo OG: Thomas, Lefotu OT: Jansen, (Molinaro) WR: Moss, Randle El, Thrash WR: Lloyd, Patten DE: Carter, Evans DT: Salavea, Montgomery DT: Griffin, Killings, Golston DE: Daniels, Wynn SLB: Washington, Clemons MLB: Marshall, Campbell, Simon WLB: Holdman, McIntosh, McCune CB: Springs, Wright CB: Rogers, Jimoh SS: Archuleta, Doughty FS: Taylor, Prioleau LS: Albright K: Hall P: Lonie This was really tough in some positions. I feel like Rock should be on here, but I see Lumsden making the team. I think we will carry 3 TEs also. i think 4 backup offensive linemen should be about right. On defense, we have very little depth throughout the secondary, so maybe one less LB or DT and one more CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronicdesi Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 I think Wynn should be sloted as a primary backup as one of the DT's. I know he was the starting DE last year, but I've heard the coaches say they would like to have him, Carter, Griffin, and Daniels in on passing downs for more of a rush... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMADD Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Funny, even though it feels like this is pretty much the same team as last year, you still have about 17 names off the top of my head that weren't on the 53 man roster last year. That's more than 30% turnover. I think it feels stable because only 3 starters are likely new: Lloyd, Carter, and Archuleta. Still, there aren't a lot of spots to be won in camp. I wish there was more competition at linebacker, backup OL and in the defensive backfield, but I think you're right: we've got what we've got at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W_REDSKINS Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Rock makes the roster period... He came through huge in the very limited instances he was called upon to perform. Lumsden is a loooooooong shot headed straight for the practice squad if ya ask me. I like Nemo to make the team before Lumsden. Either at FB or HB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Probably pretty close. I still say we pick up another OT. Not sure White makes it over Nemo, Killings doesn't make it, we carry another CB and either McCune, Holdman or Clemons doesn't make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 This was really tough in some positions. I feel like Rock should be on here, but I see Lumsden making the team.I hope Lumsden makes the team too. Rock Cartwright could still make the team as a fullback. I would be surprised to see either of them go because they both have signed contracts recently. If it was up to me, I'd cut Betts, but I doubt that will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNoles21 Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 If it was up to me, I'd cut Betts, I think I speak for all of extremeskins when i say: THANK GOD ITS NOT UP TO YOU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 I hope Lumsden makes the team too. Rock Cartwright could still make the team as a fullback. I would be surprised to see either of them go because they both have signed contracts recently. If it was up to me, I'd cut Betts, but I doubt that will happen. Cutting Betts is crazy talk. He's a damn good backup. Rock aint going anywhere either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigyim Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Funny, even though it feels like this is pretty much the same team as last year, you still have about 17 names off the top of my head that weren't on the 53 man roster last year. That's more than 30% turnover. I think it feels stable because only 3 starters are likely new: Lloyd, Carter, and Archuleta ...that speaks well about the depth that we have this year as compared to the last 2 years, I think. There aren't a lot of spots to be won in camp. I wish there was more competition at linebacker, backup OL and in the defensive backfield, but I think you're right: we've got what we've got at this point. I don't agree with your assessment that we need more competition at linebacker...our part-time starting LB will be scrapping it out with 3 other draft picks (Havner, McIntosh & Kevin Simon) and McCune, Clemons & Khary Campbell just to make the team. While depth at OL would have been preferable, it's hard to get experienced starters to come into a backup role, so marginal starters & inexperienced players wind up fulfilling those roles. While no team can have a lineman get injured without suffering, I think we have suitable players in Pucillo, Walter and Molinaro (but I have a feeling they may have Ray Brown's # on speed dial if someone got injured). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnFoRcEr_uPu Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 I just can't see Rock not making the team. You have to figure also, with the possibility of a 2 back back-field, they may keep 4 total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gayformoss Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 no way Rock dosen't make the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Joe Hog Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 I just can't see Rock not making the team. You have to figure also, with the possibility of a 2 back back-field, they may keep 4 total. I think the fact that Rock is now listed on the Roster as a fullback is very revealing. To me, it hints that both he and Lumsden are expected to make the team. No way will Rock be cut; he's much too valuable. Plus, he's what Joe Gibbs calls "a real Redskin". Lumsden is just too talented to cut or expose on the scout team. So, there you have it: Portis, Betts, Sellers, Rock, and Lumsden are the backs, barring injury. If any of them is hurt enough to go on IR (something like a paper cut in the case of Lumsden), either Nemo or White make the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMADD Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 I don't agree with your assessment that we need more competition at linebacker...our part-time starting LB will be scrapping it out with 3 other draft picks (Havner, McIntosh & Kevin Simon) and McCune, Clemons & Khary Campbell just to make the team. While the quantity might be right, I'm not so sure about the quality... after Washington, of course. Everyone falls back on the old "Gregg Williams could pick up some guys outside Home Depot and make star LBs out of them" argument, but it looks like the Skins will be manning a couple of LB slots with either rookies or underwhelming vets. And the depth will be more of the same. It looks like a question mark to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shsu1 Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 According to recent articles, Campbell is still listed as the #3 QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 The Redskins will certainly try to keep many of the guys you listed, but some will be practice squad players. No need to fill roster spots with guys who can be on the practice squad and develop there. Also, I don't think they're going to keep 17 guys to fill 7 starting positions on D. The D front seven need a back up or two but not nearly three at each position. With that in mind they can keep Carwright, practice squad Lumsden and keep a few other guys around either on the roster or the practive squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsman4u Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Rock makes the roster period... He came through huge in the very limited instances he was called upon to perform. Lumsden is a loooooooong shot headed straight for the practice squad if ya ask me.I like Nemo to make the team before Lumsden. Either at FB or HB. Ya, I like Rock mainly because he stepped in (ST Louis and Raiders I think) and proved that we don't miss a beat when CP/Betts is out and of course Betts is right up there. Rock also works, as JG would say, the "T"'s real hard too. I haven't seen Lumsden, but from what I hear on this board he's a noticeable talent. Question is what bench marks will he have to set and how much of a difference will he have to show to make the team. He'll have to definetly be good on Kick off coverage. Right now I know Lumsden has a huge size difference but still haven't seen him run the lane. He should be running a lot harder than CP, a whole lot and also blocking (stoning) LBs on blitz pick ups. For his size he must do all this equally well as Rock. Remember a lot of what CP and Rock does is just pure talent (not a lot of size) and they also do a lot of intangibles. I'll take the Rock but ya, good thread, it's thought provoking. Hopefully we'll get some more feedback on this board. But CP runs hard, I mean he runs hard as hell and there are not a lot of DBs that can go shoulder to shoulder with him. I mean CP ran someone down in the ground during the wild card in Tampa, when he scored after our INT, in the 1st quarter. I can go back and look at the tape but I think it was a SS. But he ran him down and there was some brushes from other LBs on that same play, too. Like when Philly came to town and he scored, again ran some one straite in the ground. When NY Giants came to town smoked the hell out of a Giants DB, I mena he smkoed him from about 25 yds out...I think we ran the left side, but he slipped a LB, a DB showed up and CP was gone. There are many instances where CP just runs people in the ground and he can go around you too. I would say CP is an All- Pro back easily and worth every bit of what he's paid if not more---probably more. Kootoes to Cerrato on that one. Rock will probably be running harder this training camp, and focusing on other intangibles....but like most of the comments already stated, if Lumsden hits the practice squad how long will he last. Ya, so all kinds of factors will be considered when we're talking roster changes. But then again Rock probably wouldn't last long either. We've also experienced results of Lumsden on another team--I think it was Seattle. :munchout: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Punter is Frost's to lose. Don't be suprised if we keep only 8 OL (not including Albright) on our final roster since we've got a couple of rooks who will probably be available for the PS and/or available to us if we need a body to sign to our active squad during the season. Same might be true for the DT. Between LB, CB and S, I think the extra slot (8 for LB and 5 for either DB slot) goes to the best ST player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegionOfDoom Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Everybody is high on Lumsden....what has he done.... Better yet is their video of him...I guess I should search..... Does the guy have NFL experience...or does he look good in practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoSkins Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 My assessment of the roster. Albright, Ethan LS - Roster Alston, Jon OL - Battle/Practice Squad (PS) Archuleta, Adam S - Roster Betts, Ladell RB - Roster Boschetti, Ryan DT - Battle Bramlet, Casey QB - Cut Broughton, Nehemiah FB - Battle Brown, Manaia DT- PS/Cut Brunell, Mark QB - Roster Burns, Curry S - Cut Campbell, Jason QB - Roster Campbell, Khary LB - Roster Carter, Andre DE - Roster Carter, Kerry RB - Cut Cartwright, Rock FB - Roster Cash, Ataveus WR - Cut Clemons, Chris LB - Roster Clemons, Nic DE - Battle Collins, Todd QB - Roster Combs, Jonathan RB - PS/Cut Cooley, Chris TE - Roster Daniels, Phillip DE - Roster Dockery, Derrick G - Roster Doughty, Reed S - Battle/PS Espy, Mike WR - PS Eubanks, John CB - Cut Evans, Demetric DE - Battle Farris, Jimmy WR - Cut Fauria, Christian TE - Roster Fenner, Derrick WR - Roster Frost, Derrick P - Battle Golston, Kedric DT - Battle/PS Griffin, Cornelius DT - Roster Hall, John K - Roster Harris, Steven WR - Cut Harvey, Jasper OL - Cut Havner, Spencer LB - Battle/PS Hawkins, Chris CB - PS/Cut Holdman, Warrick LB - Roster Jacobs, Taylor WR - Cut Jansen, Jon T - Roster Jimoh, Ade CB - Roster Johnson, Robert TE Jones, Jim OL - Cut Jones, Tyler K - Battle Killings, Cedric DT - Battle Lefotu, Kili OL - Battle/PS Lloyd, Brandon WR - Roster Lonie, David P - Battle Lumsden, Jesse RB - Battle/PS Manupuna, Vaka DT - PS/Cut Marshall, Lemar LB - Roster McCune, Robert LB - Battle/PS McIntosh, Roger LB - Roster Molinaro, Jim T - Battle Montgomery, Anthony DT - Battle Morton, Christian CB - Cut Moss, Santana WR - Roster Ndukwe, Ikechuku OL - Battle Ortega, Buck TE - PS Patten, David WR - Roster Patterson, Dimitri CB - PS Pino, Chris OT - Cut Portis, Clinton RB - Roster Powell, Calen TE - Cut Prioleau, Pierson S - Roster Pucillo, Mike OL - Roster Rabach, Casey C - Roster Randle El, Antwaan WR - Roster Riley, Karon DE - Cut Rogers, Carlos CB - Roster Salave'a, Joe DT - Roster Samuels, Chris T - Roster Sellers, Mike FB - Roster Simon, Kevin LB - Battle/PS Smith, Richard WR - Cut Springs, Shawn CB - Roster Sykes, Joe DE - Cut Taylor, Sean S - Roster Thomas, Randy G - Roster Thrash, James WR - Roster Walter, Tyson OL - Battle Washington, Marcus LB - Roster White, Jr., Manuel FB - Battle Williams, Aric CB - Cut Wilson, Dennard S - Battle Woodard, Jonta OL - Cut Wright, Kenny CB - Roster Wynn, Renaldo DE - Roster I count about 40 guys who are locks. Position Battles S - Doughty vs. Wilson DT - Montgomery vs. Golston vs. Boschetti vs. Killings DE - Clemons vs. Evans LB - Havner vs. Simon vs. McCune HB - Broughton vs. Lumsden vs. White OL - Walter vs. Molinaro vs. Ndukwe vs. Lefotu vs. Alston P - Lonie vs. Frost There are 21 guys I think that are in a position battle with only 13 spots left on the team. Doughty will probably beat out Wilson for the 4th safety position. Decisions on both lines are going to be hard with deciding on keeping veterans or rookies. On the DL, Killings and Evans are most likely already on the team. The others have to have great camps and preseason to see what they are worth. I really like Havner but Simon and McCune will be right there at the most competitive position battle. Broughton and White are kind of the same player and Lumsden is the great white hope. Molinaro has been on the team for a couple of years and hasn't shown much. Walter needs to show he was worth a free agent pickup. I believe Frost will have to earn his job from Lonie. It is a little early to speculate the opening day roster. However, it will be interesting. I can't wait until preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 While the quantity might be right, I'm not so sure about the quality... after Washington, of course. Everyone falls back on the old "Gregg Williams could pick up some guys outside Home Depot and make star LBs out of them" argument, but it looks like the Skins will be manning a couple of LB slots with either rookies or underwhelming vets. And the depth will be more of the same. It looks like a question mark to me. While I mostly agree with you - I think Lemar proved his worth as an athlete - though he is older and it took him a while to adjust to the NFL I think he's got MLB locked up until we draft or sign a monster LB and move Rocky inside. Lemar is good. Plus Rocky is young and has had some injuries but he is about as good an athlete as you could hope for at the WLB position, plus he's smart. So yeah thats 2 guys I don't think count as guys you could pick up outside home depot. Not to mention if Mccune ever put it together he could be a devastating 3rd down pass rusher, he is more athletic than Lavar was. I also think Christian Mortonson makes the squad, he is really fast like Sean Springs and Jerry Gray likes speed - plus I think he's shown over the last 2 NFL seasons he deserves a shot. So we keep 1 more corner and Khary Cambell gets cut. IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Everybody is high on Lumsden....what has he done....Better yet is their video of him...I guess I should search..... Does the guy have NFL experience...or does he look good in practice? No he was a rookie in the CFL last year and he tore it up, I'll link video for you. I think the thing that mostly got people high on lumsden is that he was moved up the depth chart to the 3rd RB and Kickoff Returner after Minicamp. I say Nemo and White go to the Practice squad, I just can't see White making the Roster right away over Cartwright at FB - as high as I am on White, I really think the kid is going to be special. Here is his CFL Highlights, remember he went there after he tore his hamstring as an UDFA with the Seahawks. Even though they knew he was going to leave he still got drafted 5th over all. And he came to the Redskins with Kerry Carter - even though our RB situation was supposed to be "set" and there are tons of other teams all these RBs like him and Carter could have gone to. He knew the Skins wanted him, at least as a kick returner. 6'1.75" 230 runs a 4.43 and returns kickoffs. He is a monster, I hope he makes it in a Redskin uniform. Just remember, if he had played for Ohio State last year instead of a CFL team we would be drooling over him after watching this video. http://www.jesselumsden.net/lumsdenautumn2005.wmv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURGUNDYnGOLD123 Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 boo ohio state sucks (coming from a psu student) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsman4u Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 My assessment of the roster.Johnson, Robert TE I count about 40 guys who are locks. Position Battles S - Doughty vs. Wilson DT - Montgomery vs. Golston vs. Boschetti vs. Killings DE - Clemons vs. Evans LB - Havner vs. Simon vs. McCune HB - Broughton vs. Lumsden vs. White OL - Walter vs. Molinaro vs. Ndukwe vs. Lefotu vs. Alston P - Lonie vs. Frost There are 21 guys I think that are in a position battle with only 13 spots left on the team. Doughty will probably beat out Wilson for the 4th safety position. Decisions on both lines are going to be hard with deciding on keeping veterans or rookies. On the DL, Killings and Evans are most likely already on the team. The others have to have great camps and preseason to see what they are worth. I really like Havner but Simon and McCune will be right there at the most competitive position battle. Broughton and White are kind of the same player and Lumsden is the great white hope. Molinaro has been on the team for a couple of years and hasn't shown much. Walter needs to show he was worth a free agent pickup. I believe Frost will have to earn his job from Lonie. It is a little early to speculate the opening day roster. However, it will be interesting. I can't wait until preseason. What do you have on Robert Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan09 Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 QB: Brunell, Campbell, Collins (Campbell wins #2, Brunell will go down, the Campbell Era will begin!) RB: Portis, Betts, Rock Cartwright, White (Cartwright signed a 5 year deal, no way he gets cut. nemo and white is a toss up) FB: Sellers, White TE: Cooley, Fauria, Johnson OT: Samuels, Molinaro OG: Dockery, Pucillo, Lefotu (do not deny the Semoin! [srry i spelled wrong]) C: . Rabach, Pucillo, Walter (Pucillo signed a 4yr deal so i believe he will be primary backup) OG: Thomas, Pucillo, Jones OT: Jansen, (Molinaro) WR: Moss, Randle El, Thrash WR: Lloyd, Patten DE: Carter, Wynn, Evans DT: Salavea,*, Montgomery(Gibbs said somewhere that they will keep 4 or 5 DT and 4 DE) DT: Griffin,*, Killings (*= if one of our starting DT go down. Wynn will start a DT) DE: Daniels, Wynn, Evans SLB: Washington, Mccune MLB: Marshall, Campbell, Simon WLB: Holdman, McIntosh, Clemons CB: Springs, Wright CB: Rogers, Jimoh, Patterson (not necessarily Patterson, but some sleeper DB will make it. no way we go into the season with 4 DBs like we did last year) SS: Archuleta, Prioleau, Doughty FS: Taylor, Prioleau, Doughty LS: Albright K: Hall P: Frost thar she blows! parfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB44 Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Nice List! Only difference I see is in the back up RB and FB. RB...Lumsden - Rock FB...White - Nemo In another thread, I said the battle at back up WR would be the toughest competition, with Patten vs. whoever and Thrash a lock (i.e. ST Ace). But the guys I showed above will be battling equally as hard. Personally I'm routing for Rock and Nemo, but may the best make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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