dfitzo53 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 well a cheeta decides all of a sudden hey i want to take this gazelles life away, and does it. Since your entire contention is that mankind is above the animal kingdom, I'm not sure what your point here is. animals deserve to be eaten, religious or not you have to accept that. You really don't have to. There are sects of Buddhism which don't allow the consumption of any sort of animals whatsoever. Personally I love meat, and I'm comfortable eating it for a variety of reasons, but the view quoted above is an exceedingly narrow one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan133 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Since your entire contention is that mankind is above the animal kingdom, I'm not sure what your point here is.You really don't have to. There are sects of Buddhism which don't allow the consumption of any sort of animals whatsoever. Personally I love meat, and I'm comfortable eating it for a variety of reasons, but the view quoted above is an exceedingly narrow one. i meant rligious becuase i thought yall like PC (which i dont so thanks for the invitation to be "frank and true"). ok then i meant christianity, even judaism aplies even if it is kosher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 i meant rligious becuase i thought yall like PC (which i dont so thanks for the invitation to be "frank and true"). ok then i meant christianity, even judaism aplies even if it is kosher Who exactly are the y'all that like political correctness? I'm just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan133 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Who exactly are the y'all that like political correctness? I'm just curious. insert non-offending ethnic or neo-political background of choice in the blank were yall was:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 You could theoretically categorize animals and say these animals have rights, these animals don't, but then that seems very hypocritical to me. I once knew a girl (still do) who wasn't a vegetarian, but wouldn't eat the "cute" animals. Seriously. Fish were okay, because they were ugly. Anyone heard Denis Leary's theory on this? I'll summarize: "What are you?" "Im an otter" "What do you do?" "I swim around on my back and do cute little human things with my hands" "Youre free to go" "What are you?" "Im a cow" "Get in the ****ing truck." :laugh: My theory: Animals dont have "rights" but what the hell is the sense in causing anything undue harm? Just makes you a sadist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 here, i couldnt resist: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 :applause::applause::applause:Liberals and their complaints won't end until Hillary is Pres. Could I ask you to point out the massive liberal movement to force you to give up meat? PETA and it's stance on the food chain receives the same "warm" welcome on FreeRepublic as it does on DemocraticUnderground. Maybe I just should have wrote - "Conservatives won't bother to educate themselves before forming an opinion until El Rushbo becomes President' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Yes some rights depending on how comparable their intelligence is to ours. The greater the intelligence the greater amount of rights they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslowalrob Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I don' believe anything has rights, including the most DANGEROUS ANIMALS OF ALL; Otters (I mean humans!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I don' believe anything has rights, including the most DANGEROUS ANIMALS OF ALL; Otters (I mean humans!) Make no mistake Winslow. An otter would kill you and everyone you love given the chance. Look at this vicious monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslowalrob Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Make no mistake Winslow. An otter would kill you and everyone you love given the chance. Look at this vicious monster. HA, thanks a lot Troy... I remember you from other movies such as... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Anyone heard Denis Leary's theory on this? I'll summarize:"What are you?" "Im an otter" "What do you do?" "I swim around on my back and do cute little human things with my hands" "Youre free to go" "What are you?" "Im a cow" "Get in the ****ing truck." :laugh: That CD has been coming up a lot lately!!! :laugh: I used to know that entire CD by heart!! I think that was one of the reasons I found this chick to be so funny...:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 ahhh good old Jrock with a timely "liberal" response:D I believe animals should be slaughtered humanely. The cow, let's face it, is bred to be our food. Its been that way for forever...they are domesticated for one purpose; our food and milk. However, I do believe we owe it to them to at least kill them as painlessly as possible. I won't eat at KFC because they refuse to live up to animal cruelty standards (the only fast-food joint that doesn't). By the way, if you eat at KFC and you posted you don't think animals should be tortured, you are a walking contradiction. EDIT: I just realized I made a wierd jump from cows to chickens...but I think the same thing applies to chickens as cows; they are bred to be our food and they deserve to be killed humanely. how you like your steak Jrock? im partial to medium rare or rare, if its still mooing its just really fresh:D , and it has to be bleeding to get tste and texture Cooking a steak anything more than medium rare is post-humous animal abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo21 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I don't support the animal "rights" movement because I don't think animals should have "rights" in the sense that humans do. I do however support the animal welfare movement - and am all for stiff penalties for those that torture animals. People that take pleasure in dealing out pain sicken me and I like the idea of society delivering the message that such people are not wanted and will not be tolerated. I am with you Dest. Their is a film that just came on HBO dealing with this. http://www.hbo.com/docs/programs/dealingdogs/index.html Dealing Dogs Each year, 42,000 dogs are sold to veterinary schools and research labs by Class B dealers, who are required by federal law to buy the animals from pounds, shelters and small breeders and to treat them humanely. However, many Class B dealers violate the law. DEALING DOGS exposes the abuses that took place at one of America's most notorious Class B dealers - Martin Creek Kennel in Arkansas It's truly ruff to watch. Seeing a human being put a gun to a dogs head and pull the trigger. I couldn't take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36SKINS56 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 the right to remain silent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 EDIT: I just realized I made a wierd jump from cows to chickens...but I think the same thing applies to chickens as cows; they are bred to be our food and they deserve to be killed humanely. What about cats, them's good eatin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rictus58 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 It's truly ruff to watch. Seeing a human being put a gun to a dogs head and pull the trigger. I couldn't take it. HAHA. ruff. Seriously though, someone mentioned Animals don't have souls. The Catholic church does have an annual blessing of the Pets in honor of St Francis of Assisi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchwood Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 So let me tell you all a story. And this will probably make some of you made. I once had a tarantula named Tequila, he was a good spider, although he was "smuggled" here from Brazil by my uncle (He was still very much fangy and venomous). He was a great conversation piece and enjoyed eating mice. Well my favorite uncle (the one that got me Tequila) "smuggled" a black king scorpion from Mexico back to me. Well my dumb brother stuck that scorpion in the cage with Tequila and it killed that tarantula in a matter of minutes. We were so made that it killed Tequila that we let it starve to death. Now my question to you is: Were we cruel and unusual to the scorpion? Did we violate its rights (we did forego the jury trial)? Plus is throwing cats out a 2 story window considered bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I am with you Dest. Their is a film that just came on HBO dealing with this.http://www.hbo.com/docs/programs/dealingdogs/index.html Dealing Dogs Each year, 42,000 dogs are sold to veterinary schools and research labs by Class B dealers, who are required by federal law to buy the animals from pounds, shelters and small breeders and to treat them humanely. However, many Class B dealers violate the law. DEALING DOGS exposes the abuses that took place at one of America's most notorious Class B dealers - Martin Creek Kennel in Arkansas It's truly ruff to watch. Seeing a human being put a gun to a dogs head and pull the trigger. I couldn't take it. The worst part is that only time these violators seem to get caught is when some kid with a camera catches them. Who the hell is enforcing these laws? Seems like it would be pretty easy to send someone for an unscheduled visit once a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthSidious Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Yeah, the right to be eaten by humans if they are delicious. As someone noted before, if a cow had the chance, it would kill and eat you and your family. Better them than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 So let me tell you all a story. And this will probably make some of you made.I once had a tarantula named Tequila, he was a good spider, although he was "smuggled" here from Brazil by my uncle (He was still very much fangy and venomous). He was a great conversation piece and enjoyed eating mice. Well my favorite uncle (the one that got me Tequila) "smuggled" a black king scorpion from Mexico back to me. Well my dumb brother stuck that scorpion in the cage with Tequila and it killed that tarantula in a matter of minutes. We were so made that it killed Tequila that we let it starve to death. Now my question to you is: Were we cruel and unusual to the scorpion? Did we violate its rights (we did forego the jury trial)? Yes Plus is throwing cats out a 2 story window considered bad? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macd36 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 What type of rights? I believe the have the right to be treated humanely and not be abused. Great post! :notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I guess in some way, in my book they have rights. I'm a real socialable person and I get along well with almost everyone I know, and I'm not a real big animal person, but I value animals and their well being as much as I value a human beings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 We were so made that it killed Tequila that we let it starve to death.Now my question to you is: Were we cruel and unusual to the scorpion? Did we violate its rights (we did forego the jury trial)? Are you serious? If you are, that is sick and psychopathic. Who was that scorpion bothering when it was taken out of its habitat? I guess the scoorpion had a right to live, and not be starved to death. So yeah, in a sense you did violate the rights of that paticular animal. It is not so much a "right" as it is the right thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 So let me tell you all a story. And this will probably make some of you made.I once had a tarantula named Tequila, he was a good spider, although he was "smuggled" here from Brazil by my uncle (He was still very much fangy and venomous). He was a great conversation piece and enjoyed eating mice. Well my favorite uncle (the one that got me Tequila) "smuggled" a black king scorpion from Mexico back to me. Well my dumb brother stuck that scorpion in the cage with Tequila and it killed that tarantula in a matter of minutes. We were so made that it killed Tequila that we let it starve to death. Now my question to you is: Were we cruel and unusual to the scorpion? Did we violate its rights (we did forego the jury trial)? Plus is throwing cats out a 2 story window considered bad? Man....I thought you were kidding about punting cats in the cat thread, but now I'm not so sure. You're sick...seek help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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