H4172tehR3d5k1n5 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Derek HaganHeight: 6-2 | Weight: 202 | 40-Time: 4.54 Official Bio Strengths: Has solid size...Is a smart and cagey receiver who just knows how to get open...Runs good routes...Is more quick than fast...Tough and will lay his body on the line...Does a solid job of running after the catch...Never gives up on a play...Adjusts well to bad throws...Overachiever who gets the most out of his ability...Very productive...The type who does everything well but nothing great. Weaknesses: Does not have great pure speed...Is not a deep threat...Will still drop some catchable passes and hands are somewhat questionable...May have trouble separating from pro defensive backs...Is not a great blocker...Does not work the middle of the field much...May not have a lot of upside at the next level. Notes: An excellent college receiver who you have to temper your excitement about as a prospect due to his lack of ideal physical tools...Can be a great #2 receiver in the pros but to expect much more from him is probably being a little too optimistic. posted from nfldraftcountdown.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Nah______________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKiNz Jus 2 sick Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Weaknesses:Does not have great pure speed...Is not a deep threat...Will still drop some catchable passes and hands are somewhat questionable...May have trouble separating from pro defensive backs...Is not a great blocker...Does not work the middle of the field much...May not have a lot of upside at the next level. posted from nfldraftcountdown.com lol is this why we should get him:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadKarma Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Tapp from VT would be nice at DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC4 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Weaknesses:Does not have great pure speed...Is not a deep threat...Will still drop some catchable passes and hands are somewhat questionable...May have trouble separating from pro defensive backs...Is not a great blocker...Does not work the middle of the field much...May not have a lot of upside at the next level. This guy has already played for the Redskins I believe his name was Rod Gardner :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINZ_DOMIN8 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 People still on the "wide receiver" bandwagon? Will this be the 15th year in a row we don't address the pass rushing situation? If some of these "fans" had their way it would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 People still on the "wide receiver" bandwagon?Will this be the 15th year in a row we don't address the pass rushing situation? If some of these "fans" had their way it would. hold your horses, let the man start a thread...i mean we do need a pass rushing DE, but isnt it more probable that we could pick up Vanden Bosch or Abraham in free agency than draft one? Dont imply that hes not a fan just because he sees WR's more important that DE's at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-O-G Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I think the weaknesses just described Rod Gardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINZ_DOMIN8 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 hold your horses, let the man start a thread...i mean we do need a pass rushing DE, but isnt it more probable that we could pick up Vanden Bosch or Abraham in free agency than draft one? Dont imply that hes not a fan just because he sees WR's more important that DE's at the moment. That's exactly the problem. For the umpteenth year we have people wanting everything BUT a pass rushing end while Dallas and Philadelphia add to their defense. Yeah, lets "draft" another wide receiver. Tell me the last rookie wide receiver that actually made an impact on one team. Let alone name me 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 That's exactly the problem. For the umpteenth year we have people wanting everything BUT a pass rushing end while Dallas and Philadelphia add to their defense.Yeah, lets "draft" another wide receiver. Tell me the last rookie wide receiver that actually made an impact on one team. Let alone name me 3. Braylon Edwards + Reggie Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Sassy Molassy Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 His weaknesses sound scare me away from him. He sounds like Rod Gardner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlamVR Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Personally I would rather go for best player available there out of a range of options rather than just reach for a guy because he is a WR or DE. I wouldn't be displeased if we picked up an offensive linesman, a cornerback or safety . The only places I cannot see using a No.2 pick on are QB, RB, and LB - pending the LaVar issue. I understand what people are saying about the players we need but lets not just reach for anyone who vaguely meets out needs and certainly not for a guy like Derek Hagan who just simply doesn’t seem to fit our offensive system . The No1 and 2 receivers on this team have to be big time speedsters with real play making ability because they might only get 5-10 passes thrown at them all game, the slot or No3. receiver most likely Thrash/Cooley/Sellars at the moment are the bigger targets who have to excel at other things like blocking and making those essential 3rd down conversions. The knock on Hagen is he is inconsistent and cannot block, much like our other big receivers who have come and gone McCants and Gardner, I know people are looking for the next Monk but he was special so with no disrespect for the original poster but this shouldn't be the redskins No1. pick ...next ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
methuselahwikked Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Did anyone watch the Senior Bowl? Hagan dropped just about everything thrown his way. We'd have more success having Ethan Albright running deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Did anyone watch the Senior Bowl? Hagan dropped just about everything thrown his way. We'd have more success having Ethan Albright running deep. Line him up as a TE they'll think shockeys let himself go and joined us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktball74 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I would be estatic if we got this guy in the 2nd round! He is going to be a solid pro for years to come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDSKINSQ Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 i think we should go de,te or cb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 i think we should go de,te or cb. cb. and pick up a wr and de in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrentonboy Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Braylon Edwards + Reggie Brown. Thats two off the bat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 we need a WR more than a DE right now, but if it came down to hagan and tapp, i'll take the vtech boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas-Born Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Im not sure his weaknesses out weigh his upside. However, I do think that WR is a better draft than DE in the second round...if we can get a good DE in FA. Looking back over that sentence--looks like alphabet soup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcl05 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Yeah, lets "draft" another wide receiver. Tell me the last rookie wide receiver that actually made an impact on one team. Let alone name me 3. Fundamentally, I agree with you. We should draft defense. But to argue that rookie WRs don't ever make an impact is plain stupid. Use a smarter argument. Anquan Boldin Roy Williams Michael Clayton All had big rookie years in the last few seasons. There are busts and stars as rookies at every position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINZ_DOMIN8 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Fundamentally, I agree with you. We should draft defense. But to argue that rookie WRs don't ever make an impact is plain stupid. Use a smarter argument.Anquan Boldin Roy Williams Michael Clayton All had big rookie years in the last few seasons. There are busts and stars as rookies at every position. And 2 of those got injured. Or was it all 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Daryl Tapp would be the PERFECT fit here but I seriously doubt he lasts till 53. He is a lunchpail guy, he won the lunchpail award basically every week in VA Tech for being the blue collar player of the week. He is excellent against the run and is a solid pass rusher. Tapp on the Skins is a match made in heaven. As far as this Derek Hagan kid goes, bah no thanks. Sounds like another Rod Gardner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 And 2 of those got injured. Or was it all 3? Edwards + Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWSkins Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 yea, our D-line is pretty old. we need to adress this in the draft and NOT in Free Agency. Furthermore, Rookie Wr's never make much of an impact (Exception Randy Moss, but honestly, thats Randy Moss) So, draft DE Sign WR keep everyone else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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