Redskins4ever Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Eric Moulds is a elite WR. He's size, speed, athleticism, and veteran experience will compliment the offense well. That's just what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Eric Moulds is a elite WR. He's size, speed, athleticism, and veteran experience will compliment the offense well. That's just what we need. At this point, he's not an elite receiver. He's still a considerable threat... and you can envision him having a few breakout games across a guy like Moss. And that's exactly what we'd need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 However, I'm not prepared to give up on David Patten just yet either. He stretched the field on a few occasions. And I got the feeling he was going to be more of a factor later in the year. Too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted January 13, 2006 Author Share Posted January 13, 2006 Keenan McCardell as I mentioned before has done a lot more between 32-34 with LESS talent than Moulds at 32 has. I think for 2-3 years he can be a capable performer for us. He's a veteran who is ready to make the sacrifices to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotomacSkinsFan Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Brandon Loyd. Bottom line. However, I'm not prepared to give up on David Patten just yet either. He stretched the field on a few occasions. And I got the feeling he was going to be more of a factor later in the year. Too bad. I agree with both of you. i don't want to give up on patten because I think he's a great leader and a great player, but we certainly need to add something. i really like brandon Lloyd because he is up and coming and has shown signs of super satrdom in a lackluster system. Another guy I like is David Givens. I think if we have an oppurtunity to add Patriots than we should. They are proven to be winners and team guys. two guys i really like in the draft as well are Jason Avant (Michigan guy, big body, can win the jump ball, great route runner and INCREDIBLE hands)and Maurice Stovall (only 20, has played four years of big time college ball, has played under charlie weis, and is 6'5") I'm also not sold on signing old guys because you have to give them more money and it seems like this is where teams strike out in free agency (ala us with Deion, Mark Carrier and Seattle with Bobby Taylor, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atloldskin Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 LLoyd Moulds Andre Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Pressure Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 If we can afford him he could be a valuable veteran who is allready in high regards with the coach. Hell if he wants to play here that would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 At this point, he's not an elite receiver. He's still a considerable threat... and you can envision him having a few breakout games across a guy like Moss. And that's exactly what we'd need. Actually, he's due for his traditional, even-year-breakout: +--------------------------+-------------------------+ | Rushing | Receiving | +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ | Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD | +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ | 1996 buf | 16 | 12 44 3.7 0 | 20 279 13.9 2 | | 1997 buf | 16 | 4 59 14.8 0 | 29 294 10.1 0 | | 1998 buf | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 67 1368 20.4 9 | | 1999 buf | 14 | 1 1 1.0 0 | 65 994 15.3 7 | | 2000 buf | 16 | 2 24 12.0 0 | 94 1326 14.1 5 | | 2001 buf | 16 | 3 3 1.0 0 | 67 904 13.5 5 | | 2002 buf | 16 | 1 7 7.0 0 | 100 1287 12.9 10 | | 2003 buf | 13 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 64 780 12.2 1 | | 2004 buf | 16 | 5 19 3.8 0 | 88 1043 11.9 5 | | 2005 buf | 15 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 81 816 10.1 4 | +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ | TOTAL | 154 | 28 157 5.6 0 | 675 9091 13.5 48 | +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I've never understood the infatuation with Brandon Lloyd...he drops easy passes and runs sloppy routes, from what I've seen... It's not just the highlight reel catches........is it? Moulds is a guy I've liked for us for some time; I think, actually, I posted in that previous thread, and I continue to advocate pursuing him. While other teams are trying to finagle a trade for TO and trying to throw tons of money at Reggie Wayne (who I would also love) and the aforementioned Lloyd, we can be working with the newly released Moulds on a contract, or with the Bills on a trade. I don't think there will be as much market for Moulds because I don't think he has either A) the likelihood of being a true #1 next year (like TO) or the future potential of being a #1 (like Wayne or Lloyd). I think it would be a financially sound pickup that would really upgrade the WR corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan133 Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 has everyone forgoten patten??? he is a real character guy and i guarentee you he would have had a better year if he wasnt nagged by injuries and put on IR... but im all for picking up moulds if the cap is clean for that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 However, I'm not prepared to give up on David Patten just yet either. He stretched the field on a few occasions. And I got the feeling he was going to be more of a factor later in the year. Too bad.I feel what you're saying Die Hard, but do you still think that he can be a factor coming back from an injury? The troubles that he was having before he got injured just may be doubled now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted January 13, 2006 Author Share Posted January 13, 2006 I like Moulds because he not only fits our offense but because like Keenan McCardell in 2002 has a taste for being on a winning team. In fact, his differences with Mullarkey and the Bills had a lot to do with his impression the team was headed in the wrong direction while they were telling him he was past his prime :laugh: meanwhile, Donahoe didn't do much to help Gregg Williams or Mullarkey as the GM. Mostly poor personnel moves and the coaches took the fall for them. Ralph Wilson neeed to fire Donahoe a year ago. The Bills blamed Williams for having a team that could stop people but couldn't score and yet they never replaced Peerless Price and then drafted Willis McGahee despite the fact he wasn't going to be able to play if at all his first year. That left Williams without much to work with on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 What about J.Abraham? Is everyone still interested in him? Would we be able to afford both J.A. and E.M.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacky McSlackAss Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 plus he can have number 80. buhbye david patten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexxrev Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 has everyone forgoten patten??? he is a real character guy and i guarentee you he would have had a better year if he wasnt nagged by injuries and put on IR... but im all for picking up moulds if the cap is clean for that... 110% agree. I think Patten will still be productive for us, lets not forget about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 has everyone forgoten patten??? he is a real character guy and i guarentee you he would have had a better year if he wasnt nagged by injuries and put on IR... but im all for picking up moulds if the cap is clean for that... I don't think people have forgotten Patten, it's just that he never showed any signs of being a sufficient number two. Quite frankly, I think Patten would be extremely effective as a number three, where he could play a little out of the slot and work on some nickel backs. Moulds's presence would be a great boost to Patten's production I think, not in that Patten would get more looks, but in that Patten could get the right kind of looks...not working underneath, but stretching the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Happy Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Keenan McCardell just signed a 2 year extension. He is not available. Now Jimmy Smith... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandies Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I think we should have drafted Doss instead of Taylor a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCMONEY Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I don't think the Skins shoulda given Patten almost 4 million dollars in bonus money. I sadi from the start he wasn't worth it. Hell if it weren't for Coles griping I'm not sure what our WR. situation would be like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgs44 Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 However, I'm not prepared to give up on David Patten just yet either. He stretched the field on a few occasions. And I got the feeling he was going to be more of a factor later in the year. Too bad. DH... Patten is the perfect slot reciever in 3 wide sets. Moss and Moulds on the outside is perfect. I also dont believe he will get a lot of money because of his age. I for one am all for signing him.... remember how Henry Ellard was washed up when he came here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReefa Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 The only problem with Lloyd is that he is a RFA. Now, I think he's a teriffic talent and he is worth the draft pick, but I think the 9ers would be quick to match any offer sheet he'd sign, unless the team doing the signing did something stoopid... I don't want to be THAT team anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 How soon people forget. Henry Ellard, when he signed with us, was 33. Then, he proceeded to have one of the best seasons of his career with us. He was also pretty solid for two more years. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReefa Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 How soon people forget.Henry Ellard, when he signed with us, was 33. Then, he proceeded to have one of the best seasons of his career with us. He was also pretty solid for two more years. Jason Didn't some ridiculous percentage of his recpetions go for first downs? I think it was like 90%... BTW, congrats in advance on your 1500th post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 DH...Patten is the perfect slot reciever in 3 wide sets. Moss and Moulds on the outside is perfect. I also dont believe he will get a lot of money because of his age. I for one am all for signing him.... remember how Henry Ellard was washed up when he came here? Hey, I can live with David Patten as our slot receiver if Moulds is on the other side That would be THE ideal situation. And given our WR corps... SOMETHING has to be done to get more production out of the group. Thrash and Jacobs aren't getting it done. So there's certainly room for a guy like Moulds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Moulds won't come cheap... Especially with the ridiculously thin pickings at FA WRs this year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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