PotomacSkinsFan Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 The only problem with Lloyd is that he is a RFA. Now, I think he's a teriffic talent and he is worth the draft pick, but I think the 9ers would be quick to match any offer sheet he'd sign, unless the team doing the signing did something stoopid...I don't want to be THAT team anymore... exactly. really good point. we definately had way too many jetskins who were restricteds. was trung candidate one too? i think bowen was as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 lol have people been paying attention to the cap decisions? You rip someone for saying there have been a lot of poor decisions... when there have been. Coles is costing us a fortune this season, we finally got Deion off the cap a couple years ago, bruce smith more recently. We have a huge dead cap space every year because of players that were cut/traded. Coles himself cost us 13 mill in cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 the Redskins have brought in a number of ex-Bills for tryouts on the basis of Gregg Williams' stint as HC in Buffalo. While Peerless Price was a guy Williams couldn't stand (hence, the team's reluctance to consider him in 2005 after his release in Dallas), Moulds was the team's best player and had his best seasons for the coach. my guess is that with the 5'10 and 190 Moss as the deep threat the 6'3 and 215 Moulds would be the ideal player lining up across from him for the next 2-3 seasons in Washington. 1. First of all Joe Gibbs DID consider Peerless Price after Dallas released him. The Skins brought him in for a tryout but he was not signed because he wanted a MULTI-YEAR contract and would not play out the season for the minumum. As the Skins are currently tight against the cap in 2005, they didn't want to and were in no position to give him a large signing bonus, without seeing how he would pan out. Hence no signing was consumated. This is the reason he hasn't signed anywhere, because very few teams have the cap room this late in the season. 2. As to Moulds, he is under contract to Buffalo through 2007. He played this year for $1.5M, but his $6M contract for 2006, obviously will have to be re-worked or he will be cut. However, Moulds will be 33 next year and his YPR average slipped to 10.1 yards, down from his career average of 13.5. This would tend to indicate that his play is slipping and he is slowing down. I think we could do a lot better with signing a much younger, faster, and cheaper receiver -- someone like David Givens of the Pats. We don't want the Skins to get back in the habit of signing over-the-hill players again, like Mark Carrier, etc., so quit pushing these old geezers. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinklein Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 If Moulds was the guy lining up opposite of Moss, you wouldn't hear any complaints from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskinloyal_1 Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Once players play in the nfl for a while they become more efficient just look at torry holt. Moulds would be an excellent acquisition, but how does anyone know if are chances are good to get this guy. Who has inside information? Or is this just a daydream in someones mind. I would like to know how true this thread is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 do we really want to spend that kind of $$$ on a reciever that's been in the league for 10 years? it's one thing for QBs to stay productive with age, but WRs tend to lose some of their edge...i don't know...i think we could use what's his name from Cleveland...Mr. no-name that has produced great stats with a mediocre QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Vet minimum plus incentives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I suspect Gibbs, as myself, still has David patten in mind for that role, if he heals properly. I have yet to stop believing that it was just a matter of time before Patten played his role effecttively. He needed more time on the field and more of a connection with Mark to develop, IMO. He knows the system, and has the character Gibbs wants. Other than one apparent, and minor, griping press-session incident, he's been a real team guy. His history at NE was very paralell to Moss's at NY, in a "step-down" kind of way. He can still rise to a good #2 in our offense and the $ figure is less straining than signing some fading #1 or currently well-known #2. But, I'm open-minded, and curious to see what we'll really do when it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I don't think people have forgotten Patten, it's just that he never showed any signs of being a sufficient number two. Patten was fine when Ramsey was QB. He got plenty of looks as the second wideout and in fact, during preseason he was getting a fair share of passes and we were talking about Moss AND Patten being deep threats, not about Moss in an exclusive sense. The first game, I think Patten had a intermediate catch, as well (though I might be misremembering.) That's JUST a statement of fact, not intended as a resurrection of an undying controversy. We could bring in Buddha and Odin as our second wideouts, it won't matter because someone won't look in their direction and often our plays are designed in a way that HINDER the production of the second wideout (roll-outs, boots, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers22 Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I like Moulds but he'll probabily want too much money. I hope we find somebody almost as good but much cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 the Redskins have brought in a number of ex-Bills for tryouts on the basis of Gregg Williams' stint as HC in Buffalo. While Peerless Price was a guy Williams couldn't stand (hence, the team's reluctance to consider him in 2005 after his release in Dallas), Moulds was the team's best player and had his best seasons for the coach. my guess is that with the 5'10 and 190 Moss as the deep threat the 6'3 and 215 Moulds would be the ideal player lining up across from him for the next 2-3 seasons in Washington. He would be ideal - but I seriously doubt we have the cap space unless La Vars $12M cap number magically dissapears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 lol have people been paying attention to the cap decisions? You rip someone for saying there have been a lot of poor decisions... when there have been.Coles is costing us a fortune this season, we finally got Deion off the cap a couple years ago, bruce smith more recently. We have a huge dead cap space every year because of players that were cut/traded. Coles himself cost us 13 mill in cap space. Next year we have only $3M of dead cap. The biggest chunk of that is Mike Barrow at just over $1M. Of course that may go up depending on cuts/trades etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Huh? The 'Skins have consistently maximized the return they've gotten on their cap dollars. Our problem has been that the talent we've managed to put on the field hasn't produced very well . . . until now that is. The 'Skins cap management has been masterful. yeah, but we haven't won the Salary Cap Space Award in that time frame either. didn't you know that it pays to have a ton of cap space? just ask the eagles, cards and vikes. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milliondollarslim Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 a Buc fan (a classy one) told me during last Saturday's game that Moulds wanted to become a redskin and that he had lots of family in this area. he supposedly heard this from a friend. take it for what its worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk4theHall81 Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Definitely a guy worth looking at. Would be a nice addition at the right price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseGoForTheWin Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Moulds is getting a little old now, but he's still a great player. He might be too expensive, though. Anyway, all of this is loser talk because we have a game on Saturday that we should be focused on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLRedskins Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Is he a Gibbs guy (character guy)? Hope so seems he has the size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 However, Moulds will be 33 next year and his YPR average slipped to 10.1 yards, down from his career average of 13.5. This would tend to indicate that his play is slipping and he is slowing down. Or it could indicate that he had a crappy QB throwing to him I agree though that Givens would be sweet. Still, I'm sure he will fall into the Pierce/Smoot category of players who go to the highest bidder. This will be his one shot at the big bucks since he was such a low pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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