tithompk Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 They need to just go out and play. At this point they have seen what happens when they sit on the lead. Joe needs to let it rip. They have 5 games left, and all are winnable games. Dallas and NYG, you cannot say the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrol14 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 B/C we lost 6 games and only won 5. Pretty good analysis I must say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashback Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 We have been in EVERY game except the Giants game (and we'll see them again here). Which means we are a solid team capable of competing w/ANYONE. There is a hump that sometimes we can get over to WIN and sometimes we cant. It usually is a 3pt hump (where if we had 3pts or not allowed 3pts) that makes the difference.SD Oak TB DEN Turnovers in 3 of those 4 are to blame. The SD game our offense was inept in the 4th. When we dont turn the ball over we make up for it by committing dumb penalties. We need to play a perfect game to win. Some teams can win ugly...we arent that good. We need to have = or + turnover margins to win. I dont even want to know how far in the negative our ratio is...it sickens me. Turnovers are the key....we are ONE possesion from being 6-5 or 7-4 or 8-3 that one less Portis/Brunell fumble may have us sitting in good shape. Its interesting that you blame your offense for that loss, when a) it was the first time all year your offense didn't cough up a TO, and your defense surrended the most yards it had all year. More than the Giants game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 In the 1st quarter we play to win. In the 2nd quarter we play to win (except the final 1.59) In the 3rd quarter we play to win In the 4th quarter we hold on for dear life............ and fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck812 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 what is the biggest reason we are 5 and 6 at this point of the season,with the talent we have and the coaching staff we have, this is not where we should be..i thought turnovers was the biggest reason, but we didnt turn it over at all against the chargers and still lost at home..plus we got 3 turnovers from them...WHAT IS GOING ON? The talent is the real problem here....Or should I say it was more of our inability to increase our talent to the full extent that we could have. This last off season we essentially traded Smoot and a high 1st for Rodgers. A huge loss for us. We traded Pierce for Marshal. Another huge loss for us. We traded Gardner for Patten which has turned into a loss. (Though I never was a big fan of Gardner he was a lot better than Patten) We traded Coles for Moss which has been the one place we have improved somewhat noticeably. In all this, we missed out on the opportunity to get a player such as Mike Williams, Andre Ware or Shawn Merriman with our first pick because we handcuffed ourselves and had to use it on Rodgers. Now we have 2 1st rd picks, a 3rd rd pick, a couple of more mid round picks and a ton of cap space tied up in 3 qbs! How do we get them all on the field at the same time???? With decisions like this, how can anyone ever think that we could win anything? We have left ourselves with lot more questions then answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 No respectable WR To complement Moss. Everyones figured out that by taking Santana out of the game with double and triple teams, no wr is left as a real threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIDETHEWALRUS Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 All of the above and some bad officiating. Man am I cursing the officials now. When they stole those games from us I wasn't nearly as heated because I felt we still had a good shot but now... those motherfu--ers!!!! P.S. Where is the Go Skins/ Refs suck sign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIDETHEWALRUS Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 CP is too busy slowly coming out of the closet instead of preparing better. If you have questions about CP's sexuality just bring him your wife and she will tell you all about it.:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: haha...his words not mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozskin Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I guess it's just a lot of little things. Turnovers, key injuries, fundimental mistakes. It also just might be that we don't have a winning culture at the moment. The great teams go in to every game knowing they will win. Maybe we just don't have that yet. But i guess that's why Gibbs is here, to bring that back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanCollins Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Playing not to lose. Skins play good enough to stay in a game, but not great enough to win that game. After eleven games I doubt very much that will change. Turnovers, penalties, and play calling. Some one give Gibbs some viagra or something to get him going. New term "prevent offence" prevents us from winning. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foppy63 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 In the halcyon Redskin 80's, the Skins' had cultivated as a team and kept on hand a type of rigid-mindset called "Killer Instinct" (clichés aside). All winning sporting clubs have possessed it. It means you can finish games. Give no quarter to the enemy. That high ideal, which MUST come from the top and transmit itself to the players via the hands-on staff, is dead and buried as far as this latest Redskins "reincarnation" is concerned. C'mon, Coach Gibbs is a nice guy, but I also remember the glory days when he didn't think twice about gutsy fourth down gambling, faking punts, onside kicks, or any other risky gadget play (even in the early quarters), attempting to oppress the enemy and keep him guessing. This gritty instinctiveness has gone missing this time around from a coaching standpoint, and it's distressing to see some of the younger and winning head coaches in the league with that same mindset, but not us. I realize the Redskins internal woes go deeper than can be remedied by some choice coaching gadgetry, and that we're fast becoming the George Costanza's of the league this year, but I also realize that a glaring lack of the "kill or be killed" NFL world view (no political correctees', please) is the Biggest single Reason we are under .500 at this critical point in the season. We don't need to just win a game over Dallas coming up, we need to drag them and their horses thru the mud and embarrass those Cowpoke Slobs. The Giants, too. We have a chance this season to take two from the Campbell's Chunky Soup Kid's Club in Philly if we play mean and unorthodox old-school Redskin ball from here on. The coaches have to want to do it, and top down attitude adjustments on this level are impossible to accomplish overnight. I know there's still some of that winning fire in Coach Gibbs, it just needs to re-surface. But soon. We can still win the East, but we have to become "killers" (figure of speech) to do it. Go Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foppy63 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 In the halcyon Redskin 80's, the Skins' had cultivated as a team and kept on hand a type of rigid-mindset called "Killer Instinct" (clichés aside). All winning sporting clubs have possessed it. It means you can finish games. Give no quarter to the enemy. That high ideal, which MUST come from the top and transmit itself to the players via the hands-on staff, is dead and buried as far as this latest Redskins "reincarnation" is concerned. C'mon, Coach Gibbs is a nice guy, but I also remember the glory days when he didn't think twice about gutsy fourth down gambling, faking punts, onside kicks, or any other risky gadget play (even in the early quarters), attempting to oppress the enemy and keep him guessing. This gritty instinctiveness has gone missing this time around from a coaching standpoint, and it's distressing to see some of the younger and winning head coaches in the league with that same mindset, but not us. I realize the Redskins internal woes go deeper than can be remedied by some choice coaching gadgetry, and that we're fast becoming the George Costanza's of the league this year, but I also realize that a glaring lack of the "kill or be killed" NFL world view (no political correctees', please) is the Biggest single Reason we are under .500 at this critical point in the season. We don't need to just win a game over Dallas coming up, we need to drag them and their horses thru the mud and embarrass those Cowpoke Slobs. The Giants, too. We have a chance this season to take two from the Campbell's Chunky Soup Kid's Club in Philly if we play mean and unorthodox old-school Redskin ball from here on. The coaches have to want to do it, and top down attitude adjustments on this level are impossible to accomplish overnight. I know there's still some of that winning fire in Coach Gibbs, it just needs to re-surface. But soon. We can still win the East, but we have to become "killers" (figure of speech) to do it. Go Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek1973 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 looking back at the season I think everything started with that stupid Tuck rule fumble. If you want to point to one play that led us down this path that was it. If that play is ruled a fumble we win the Denver game and we are at 4-0. confidence would have been way high. the next play that comes in mind is that fumble by the Rock that gave KC the victory. Rock doesn't fumble it we win that game. Then the Alstott 2 point conversion. Was he in or not? I don't think he was in but the play itself was down to the fact that Lavar missed hitting him by 4 inches...talk about a game of inches. If Lavar hits him the way he went in, Alstott maybe missing a head right now. Holding call on Rabach. Hall would have made that 41 yard field goal no problem (and remember we still had one more down to go so maybe Portis picks up antoher two making it a 39 yarder) So there you have it, 4 simple plays which would have us right now at 9-2. Naturaly hawks fans would say they had the game won but for a few inches to the right and puke fans would say if not for the hailmarys they had that game won however they quickly forget that the seahawks were in the position they were in because of inches also, just a one or two inches of the finger tips of Portis and into the CB of Seattle, and in the cowboys game their only TD came off a trick play. All in all thats what football is all about a game of inches. That is why its so important that the refs get it right because one bad call can change the entire game and we all know we have had those against us this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XSean21TaylorX Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 turnovers, and giving up big plays. the KC game for example. two big plays they scored on us on a fumble return and a quick dump off to priest holmes. if we stoped those plays, theres one win. the chargers game. the raiders game, we contain randy moss, but we let jerry porter help beat us. TB no adjustments made on galloway, Broncos tatum bell running all over us, list goes on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underwater Ally Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Strength of schedule definately comes into play. It's been a brutal year for us in that regard.Even so, we could have (and should have) been a lot better this year. We need, in no particular order: A possession WR. Cooley is a great find, but he's not good enough to be a primary option. Sorry. We need an Art Monk-type on this team to pull the doubles off of Moss's Gary Clark. A pass-rushing DE. A HUGE oversight by the staff this year. Plase, for the love of all that is holy, don't ignore this need again this offseason. A #2 corner. Rogers looks promising, but he wasn't able to step right in and fill Smoot's role. That really hurt us, because Harris isn't good enough for more than nickle work and spot-duty at this point. Hopeully Rogers' development will fill this spot naturally, but (minor rant warning) if we had simply kept Smoot, we could have used the first rounder on a pass-rusher and TWO of our big holes wouldn't have been holes this year. Grrr. Very true, though I think Pierce was a more costly loss than Smoot. Pierce's worth was closer to his asking price. Keeping Smoot would have been nice, but he wasn't worth what the Vikings paid. A pass rushing DE has been a glaring need since at least 1999 when we signed an obviously aged Bruce Smith. That fact that the coaching staff didn't make this priority number 1, and instead went for Campbell while having Brunell and Hasselbeck and refusing to trade Ramsey, is inexcusable. I really hope this season serves as a wake-up call for Gibbs, because I think his priorities this offseason were miserably out of focus. Brunell has looked much better this year, but we are still losing and that proves two things: 1) The quarterback position isn't our major problem, and 2) Brunell isn't the answer and wasn't worth the contract we gave him. I hope that this causes Gibbs to pause the next time there is a player out there that he just "has to have." As things now stand, the next 5 seasons may depend on Campbell not being a bust and more than that, proving that he was worth a first round pick. Lets hope Gibb's judgement didn't fail us there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budski Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Floppy63, great post, hopefully that meeting was all about that instinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Poor predictable offensive playcalling. Plain and simple. It was so predictable a former redskin(Pierce) knew exactly what we were going to do all game long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiswadeness Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I think that in the 6 losses our opponents have scored more points than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozskin Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I think that in the 6 losses our opponents have scored more points than us. hmmmm......that is deep. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONTEY Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 In the halcyon Redskin 80's, the Skins' had cultivated as a team and kept on hand a type of rigid-mindset called "Killer Instinct" (clichés aside). All winning sporting clubs have possessed it. It means you can finish games. Give no quarter to the enemy. That high ideal, which MUST come from the top and transmit itself to the players via the hands-on staff, is dead and buried as far as this latest Redskins "reincarnation" is concerned. C'mon, Coach Gibbs is a nice guy, but I also remember the glory days when he didn't think twice about gutsy fourth down gambling, faking punts, onside kicks, or any other risky gadget play (even in the early quarters), attempting to oppress the enemy and keep him guessing. This gritty instinctiveness has gone missing this time around from a coaching standpoint, and it's distressing to see some of the younger and winning head coaches in the league with that same mindset, but not us.I realize the Redskins internal woes go deeper than can be remedied by some choice coaching gadgetry, and that we're fast becoming the George Costanza's of the league this year, but I also realize that a glaring lack of the "kill or be killed" NFL world view (no political correctees', please) is the Biggest single Reason we are under .500 at this critical point in the season. We don't need to just win a game over Dallas coming up, we need to drag them and their horses thru the mud and embarrass those Cowpoke Slobs. The Giants, too. We have a chance this season to take two from the Campbell's Chunky Soup Kid's Club in Philly if we play mean and unorthodox old-school Redskin ball from here on. The coaches have to want to do it, and top down attitude adjustments on this level are impossible to accomplish overnight. I know there's still some of that winning fire in Coach Gibbs, it just needs to re-surface. But soon. We can still win the East, but we have to become "killers" (figure of speech) to do it. Go Skins. :applause: Great post. Totaly agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEman49 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 Giving the ball to the other team playing not to loose. Bascily ourselves:dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santanamoss89 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 because we lost 6 games and won 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzSkinsFan63 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Not burying teams when we've had the chance.... Like Portis said..we obviously can't leave it up to the refs. But you shouldn't be losing games all because you kept it close when the league wants Parity.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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