Buck812 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 So really you meant to say he was in that situation SEVEN times. 3-4 is NOT good and niether is having 2 less picks than TDs. Fu*k that shiot Brunell has proven himself with his last two TD tosses. Until Ramsey does something of that worth, Brunell stays. What he really meant to say was that if Boonell would have beaten some of the easier teams that he got to play against like Cin, Bal, Cle, GB and NYG, then we would've had to count on Ramsey beating the Phi or Pit to make the playoffs. The level of competition was quite a bit different in the last 7 games then the first nine. If we could've just gotten Ramsey in after the bye last year we probably would have made the playoffs but we had to continue this Boonell experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 So really you meant to say he was in that situation SEVEN times. 3-4 is NOT good and niether is having 2 less picks than TDs. Fu*k that shiot Brunell has proven himself with his last two TD tosses. Until Ramsey does something of that worth, Brunell stays. What the...lol...again, maybe you missed the word "improvement" in my last post due to foaming at the mouth at thinking you had an argument with the stats. Ramsey actually improved in his one and only opportunity to be the starter...yes, those 100+ QB ratings (that Brunell has YET to achieve in even a single game as the Skins QB) came AFTER Ramsey started improving...in his last five games, he threw 7 TDs and 4 INTs...again, improvement. By the way, Brunell has thrown 2 TDs and 1 INTs. If having 2 less picks than TDs is "NOT good", then what is having ONE less pick than TDs??...lol...Also, Brunell is 4-6 as a starter for the Skins...if 3-4 is "NOT good", then what is 4-6??... I'm amazed at how often the logic train gets derailed around here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaj70123 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 How could you say that PR is the worst QB ever. has he ever had a chance to prove himself. I mean 2 complete seasons to show what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaj70123 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Point blank Brunell sucks. Ramsey is going to be traded and he will preform well somewhere else. like all of our other QBs that we ran out of washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmania123 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Based upon the small pickings out there in the league ( referring to the Jets situation) absolutely Ramsey will get picked up by another team, and will start no doubt. Anyway I am still on the Ramsey bandwagon. This poll is pretty even the way I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley83 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Yeah these threads need to stop. Brunell is in, Ramsey is out, that's it. I believe that our QB problem does not have a solution that will come quickly from choosing between these two. We need to find a way to utilize Moss and get some more yardage out of our running game. As it is our QB's suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 wow this is a close vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting for old D.C. Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Wow I am shocked that Ramsey is leading this poll. I was a big Ramsey supporter until the Dallas game, but after Brunell's performance against Dallas I don't think there is any way you can say Brunell does not deserve to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incrediblemojo Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I really disagree with you who say Ramsey hasn't had a chance. The question is how many chances does he need? He still overthrows the deep routes (nice arm though) and is usually high on the crossing routes which gets receivers killed and balls intercepted. His mobility is non-existent. The fact we didn't even listen to the Jets trade offer is somewhat puzzling. If they offer a 4th rounder, we say eat you know what. But what if they offer Vilma or a first rounder plus a late rounder? Do we not take that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Why is it I keep answering these silly polls.... I keep replying to them as well:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBChick Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I have NEVER seen Ramsey suck as bad as MB did in the first 55 min's of that Dallas Cowboy game. I don't know.. that Giant's game last year when Ramsey took over SUCKED way more then the first 55 mins of the Dallas game! I for one am about winning. Exciting or not.. I will takee the W over a bunch of pretty deep passes that end in an interception any day. Though I won't say I'm for one over the other. By mid season Ramsey may just well be the one that gets us the W, then again maybe not. It's not like he lit up the field last year... he simply won as many games as Brunell did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsknbill Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 wow this is a close vote I was thinking the same thing :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Why is it I keep answering these silly polls....I keep replying to them as well:doh: you're in the same boat with me.they're addicting :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raperry2 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 If you guys can't respect Joe Gibbs and his decisions, then who in football can you respect?! Sure, Joe Gibbs changed his mind, but he has earned the right to do that because of the fact that he is JOE GIBBS. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonefishing Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 The Redskins have too much $ tied up @ the QB position. Ramsey is gone after the season, his contract is up. Brunell has 200 years left on his contract so you can't chuck him overboard yet. Let the vet carry them until Cambell is ready to put down the clipboard. In the meantime put yourself at QB on Madden, we all have such high awareness ratings our QB vision cone should be huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonefishing Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 The Redskins have too much $ tied up @ the QB position. Ramsey is gone after the season, his contract is up. Brunell has 200 years left on his contract so you can't chuck him overboard yet. Let the vet carry them until Cambell is ready to put down the clipboard. In the meantime put yourself at QB on Madden, we all have such high awareness ratings our QB vision cone should be huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illuminati Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Ramsey needs a chance......aikman went 1-15 first year., and skins are building....just wait until 2 years from now when there is no brunell, and campbell is awful and then u have to find another aging qb with a draft pick behind him.....if u let ramsey get a shot and he fails campbell is there anyway....so give me one positive for starting brunell??? .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Redskins 14 Dallas 13 there's your positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanTheBeastTaylor Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Brunell i thought he was the better CHOICE last year also. I was looking through my thesaurus looked up ramsey let me tell you what i found..... Turnover,interception, and fumble.... odd isn't it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waleo32 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Lets rewind this one more time. Brunell plays horrible for 56 minutes, which is most of the game. Then he throws 2 great passes, and some of us are now jumping on the Brunell bandwagon thats very interesting. OOOOK, I still like Ramsey. In that game against Chi-town, you all remember that game right, the one Ramsey sneezed and the coach decided to take him out for good. He played well and moved the offense well. MB just handed the ball off to CP, that was his offense. And if I am correct Ramsey would have beaten Dallas last year if it wasn't for ST messing up in coverage. As long as I'm getting W's I don't care though. Gibbs is still the man in my book. But if Pat comes back he will play very well. Because this year is his audition for some team particularly Dallas, or Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 so give me one positive for starting brunell??? .... Less boneheaded plays and bad decisions.... Brunell won IN Dallas:doh: Need anymore? Ok one more... Gibbs thinks Brunell is the better choice:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Master Jay Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I remember Joe Gibbs saying he thought Brunell had something to give back to the organization. He made me proud last Monday so he is the man until he gets hurt or retires. We finally did to the Cowgirls what they had been doing to us for the last 5 years. Ramsey doesn't have what it takes just asked a HOF Coach who WON 3 Super Bowls with 3 different QB's. That tells me he knows something about quarterbacks. The Ramsey backers just be patient he will get to play again. I just hope not for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonefishing Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 #8 is a vet. The Redskins have to go to Arrowhead to play, and then Denver after the "I travel like cheap wine" Seahawks at home this week. On the road in a loud stadium, #11 will make mistakes, that is just what he does. I want to minimize my mistakes. He is a Int./Fumble machine. I would have put his butt in a slingshot and fired him to NY. for a pass rusher or a high round draft pick. #11's psych. must be shot. He needs a new start. He is a tough guy...But Spurrier got him "JACKED UP!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross3909 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I am one of the few fans who is just very happy with the depth we have at QB. I like Ramsey but I think Brunell is the smarter choice. If I have my way Brunell will win a few more and then have to leave the game for no serious reason then Ramsey comes in and lights the world on fire...taking us to the promised land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebskins Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 ramsey would have been yanked in the 1st quarter of the cowboys game had he performed like brunell was performing...does anyone else aknowledge that p-ram was playing reasonably well for the first quarter of the first opening game that he has started? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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