twa Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Originally posted by jrockster77 Well, they have a warning label printed right on the can: "Do not use without common sense." Going out expecting to meet a bear is without common sense imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 Did some research on the subject of meeting bears in Alaska and found this : An atheist was walking through the woods one day in Alaska, admiring all that evolution had created. "What majestic trees! What a powerful river! What beautiful animals!" he said to himself. As he was walking alongside the river, he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him. Turning to look, he saw a 13-foot Kodiak brown bear beginning to charge towards him. He ran as fast as he could down the path. He looked over his shoulder and saw that the bear was rapidly closing on him. Somehow, he ran even faster, so scared that tears came to his eyes. He looked again & the bear was even closer. His heart pounding in his chest, he tried to run faster yet. But alas, he tripped and fell to the ground. As he rolled over to pick himself up, the bear was right over him, reaching for him with it's left paw and raising its right paw to strike him....he yelled out, "OH MY GOD!" Time stopped....... The bear froze....... The forest was silent............ Even the river stopped moving. As a brilliant light shone upon the man, a thunderous voice came from all around, GOD SPOKE: "YOU DENY MY EXISTENCE FOR ALL THESE YEARS, TEACH OTHERS THAT I DON'T EXIST AND EVEN CREDIT CREATION TO SOME COSMIC ACCIDENT. DO YOU EXPECT ME TO HELP YOU OUT OF THIS PREDICAMENT? "AM I TO COUNT YOU NOW AS A BELIEVER?" Difficult as it was, the atheist looked directly into the light & said, "It would be hypocritical to ask to be a Christian after all these years, but perhaps you could make the bear a Christian?" "VERY WELL," said GOD. The light went out... The river ran... The sounds of the forest resumed.. And the bear dropped down on his knees, brought both paws together, bowed his head and spoke: "Lord, thank you for this food which I am about to receive, Amen." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins1972 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Originally posted by herrmag I'm not an "outdoorsman", but I've read (do the research yourself if you don't believe me) that, should a bear charge you, you are supposed to hold your ground. Supposedly, they like to bluff a lot, and if you run, they may decide to chase you. Regardless, if a bear charges me, I'm bookin' it. LMAO hold my ground against a 800 pound bear that is mad and wants a piece of me?? No thanks, I ll take my chances running even though I have heard they can run up to 30 miles an hour or balling down and cry like a baby.. I deal with bears on a daily basis, usually mornings when walking my dog and nights when I get home from work. I have one that is always outside my house.. His name is Kevin, he is my neighbor and I wanted to say he is hairy as a monkey but a bear will do cause he is also huge :-) he is a quite bear, he usually has a beer in hand and always waves. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateCitySkin Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 I'm glad I don't have to deal with Bears on Rock Creek Park... Only Deer and One-Eyed Hookers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tarhog Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Originally posted by twa :laugh: It's not so bad. I woke up in Cloudcroft once with a bear licking crumbs off me,after he left and my heart quit fluttering,it was kinda cool. Of course I NEVER sleep outside anymore;) Your *** wasn't sore was it? I ask, only out of concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Originally posted by herrmag I'm not an "outdoorsman", but I've read (do the research yourself if you don't believe me) that, should a bear charge you, you are supposed to hold your ground. Supposedly, they like to bluff a lot, and if you run, they may decide to chase you. Regardless, if a bear charges me, I'm bookin' it. I'm a big fan of the 'Last Great Act of Defiance' Won't do you any good, but think of the story you'll have to tell in the afterlife! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryman of the North Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 I grew up in Northern Alberta and dealt with Bears as a daily occurence. I worked as as Hunting guide, Tree planter guide and GPS GIS technologist so I have a lot of experience in dealing with both Grizzlies and Blacks. 1- yes quite often you can smell a bear from a long ways away they smell like a combo of wet dog and rotten garbage. However not all bears smell so strongly so dont count on that. 2-I suggest a 7mm magnum or winchester 300 as a minumum but several bear spray are very good (id still carry the rifle tho, rather pay a fine than be dead) 3-Bears are like people they have different personalities, Ive had a grizzly blow on my ear as he snuck up on me while I was picking blueberries but do nothing else other than eat my entire bucket,and I have had Grizzlies charge me for no apparent reason you never can tell. 4-I have been chaesd while feeding our pigs and ill tell you there is no better way to train for your 40 than be chased by 800 pounds of bear! seriously the downhill thing is bull**** and if the bear is closer then 200 yards and saftey is more than 50 feet away then running is stupid as they are unreal fast! look for a tree and get on the other side and climb like a ****! 5- The joke about being fatser than the next guys is true but if there are several of you in the group then make noise and be "BIGGER" and you should be OK. 6-bear bells are useless. save them for the stupid hippy tree planters. 7-Carry a hatchet as well, a guy in BC last year managed to fight a bear off with a hatchet and I know an old guy from Paddle praiirei who did as well. better to at least make the bear regret his meal than to just roll over right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins4life234 Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 I have a story, True story, our guide told us while in Denali. A man was walking around denali park, and saw a bear, it was about 300 yards away, and the bus was about 50. The bear started charging, he ran to the bus and the door was closed. He banged on the door for the driver to open up, and he said "Sorry i dont let people on the bus with a bear behind" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soliloquy Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 He won't be carrying a gun in Denali. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingJeremy Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 I encountered Mike Bibby when he came into my pharmacy in DC once, before Vancouver drafted him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted July 18, 2005 Author Share Posted July 18, 2005 Originally posted by redskins4life234 I have a story, True story, our guide told us while in Denali. A man was walking around denali park, and saw a bear, it was about 300 yards away, and the bus was about 50. The bear started charging, he ran to the bus and the door was closed. He banged on the door for the driver to open up, and he said "Sorry i dont let people on the bus with a bear behind" What happened next ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Originally posted by Mickalino What happened next ? Are you being serious? It was a joke...:laugh: Sorry if I missed the joking tone of your post (if it was there), there were no smileys. :mad: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted July 18, 2005 Author Share Posted July 18, 2005 Originally posted by jrockster77 Are you being serious? It was a joke...:laugh: Sorry if I missed the joking tone of your post (if it was there), there were no smileys. :mad: :laugh: I guess it was the part where he emphasized "True story", that made me believe him :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Originally posted by Mickalino I guess it was the part where he emphasized "True story", that made me believe him :whoknows: It was a pun; "I don't let anyone on the bus with a bear (bare) behind." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted July 18, 2005 Author Share Posted July 18, 2005 Oh, I got the pun the first time. I just thought it was a pun, within a true story. Considering that running from bears, is probably a common occurrence in Denali Park, I figured that by that time, the bus driver had obtained a witty response to those situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDane Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 There is no end to the story, because the grizzly ate everyone on the bus, and there was no one left to tell how the tale ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted July 18, 2005 Author Share Posted July 18, 2005 Originally posted by TheDane There is no end to the story, because the grizzly ate everyone on the bus, and there was no one left to tell how the tale ends. Then who was left, to tell how the tale began ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins4life234 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Originally posted by Mickalino Then who was left, to tell how the tale began ?? a on going moose. And seeing bears, and running etc, arnt that common in denali. The park is huge, and there is onyl 13 miles of road you can go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted July 19, 2005 Author Share Posted July 19, 2005 Originally posted by Ryman of the North look for a tree and get on the other side and climb like a ****! How will that help ? Bears can climb trees almost as fast as they can run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouBrave86 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Wear a Walter Payton jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halter91 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 no offense, but unless i have a really high powered rifle, preferably automatic, I'll be damned if you'd catch me near a damn grizzly bear. On another Grizzly note, they should be coming off the endangered species list this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney B Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Originally posted by halter91 no offense, but unless i have a really high powered rifle, preferably automatic, I'll be damned if you'd catch me near a damn grizzly bear. Grizzlys aren't that tough. I once killed one by dropping a safe out of an airplane on it. Da** sissy Grizzly didn't even put up a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDane Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Originally posted by Mickalino Then who was left, to tell how the tale began ?? Ah, it's funny you should ask that. Actually, one of the guys who was on the bus - HOLY ****, Mickalino, look over THERE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Mick, isn't that a stupid law? If Grizzlies are a possible encounter, I'd want firepower. You could always ignore it. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. Well-placed shots will kill even a grizzly. They aren't all powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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