Bigskinbauer Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 Just wondering the opinion on whether taylor is innocent. We have heard that they have witnesses and the witnesses played football in highschool with Taylor and one has been quoted on saying "whats the profit for me". I also suspect the people that were the victims have also said that he pulled a gun but they are not very crediable expecially if they are the ones who did the shooting at the house taylor was staying at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 Ah man, I messed this up. I voted "NO" thinking the poll was about whether or not Taylor was innocent. But now that I look again, the poll asks " Did taylor pull a gun? ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest amaprius Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 Taylor is not innocent...The real question is ... Will he get away with it? Probably. Too bad. Someone needs to make a stand on these athletes getting away with out and out crimes...even murder(see Ray Lewis). My friend was killed by a drunk driver and these cops and judges let these kids get off scott free from DUI's, just so they can kill with their cars or guns or knives(OJ), etc. and get away with that too. The justice system in america needs balls. They have no balls right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autographcollector Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 If ray lewis got off so should taylor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 :doh: let's hear all the evidence before determining guilt but passing a lie detector test don't hurt his case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 Originally posted by bubba9497 :doh: let's hear all the evidence before determining guilt but passing a lie detector test don't hurt his case Since it can't be admitted as evidence, it doesn't help his case. And why can't it be admitted? It's unreliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 in this case, im actually glad Rosenhaus is his agent, guy has become another Poston, but he knows how to fight well it seems. Im undecided until I hear the full story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matador36 Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 Undecided As long as this changes him for the better I don't care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 Guilty.. Just like O.J. and Koby and Ray and Michael and Baretta and Tyson.. oh wait not like Tyson no..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTASKINSFAN Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 He is guilty of being extremely stupid. At the very least. GO SKINS!!!!!:helmet: :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portis&taylor Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 I think he is innocent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightenupSandyBaby Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 Originally posted by Matador36 Undecided As long as this changes him for the better I don't care you're absoltutely right. i can forgive people for almost any bad deed or decision....it's how you respond fron=m the circumstances that counts the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHUBAKAH Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 If it doesn’t fit, you must acquit! I agree with Art. From what we are told, it just doesn't fit, or make any sense. Since when is it less of a crime to pull a gun over firing a gun? I'd like to believe he is innocent. One can only hope he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious-D Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 Originally posted by CHUBAKAH If it doesn’t fit, you must acquit! "I agree with Art. From what we are told, it just doesn't fit, or make any sense. Since when is it less of a crime to pull a gun over firing a gun?" I'm gonna guess that there is plenty of evidence to support the gun charge against Taylor and not enough evidence to bring gun charges against the others. After all, bullet holes in a house are evidence only that a gun was fired. But when and by who? Where is the gun? Were there witnesses? All of these questions can be answered in the Taylor charge. :helmet: BTW, I voted guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho fan Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 My guess is that there was probably a gun involved. However, the more I read of what comes out the more this sounds like the police are going after the wrong people. The house that Taylor was at after the "incident" along with his car was shot! Seems like the police are more concerned about weather or not Taylor waved a gun when others (any guess who?) shot up his car and the house he was at. I bet he gets off - but I am worried that this is going to be one of those distractions no team wants.:logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 I don't know whether he did it or not but when it comes down to it I think he'll end up just getting a slap on the wrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 Originally posted by tr1 Since it can't be admitted as evidence, it doesn't help his case. And why can't it be admitted? It's unreliable. it can't? since when? anything that might prove him innoscent will neer be accepted by many here..... simply because you have already made up your he's guilty. sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triple6mafia Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 of course taylor is innocent. Are the police really gonna believe the criminals story over Sean Taylors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 Originally posted by bubba9497 it can't? since when? anything that might prove him innoscent will neer be accepted by many here..... simply because you have already made up your he's guilty. sad http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1449312#post1449312 Originally posted by bubba9497 on June-25th-2005 01:25 AM : WT: Redskins' Taylor arraigned in Miami Redskins' Taylor arraigned in Miami By David Elfin THE WASHINGTON TIMES http://www.washtimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20050625-120344-2043r Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor was arraigned yesterday in Miami on a felony charge of aggravated assault with a firearm and on a misdemeanor charge of simple battery. Under Florida law, Taylor, 22, would face a three-year mandatory minimum sentence and a maximum of 16 years in prison if convicted of the felony. The former University of Miami All-American also would be subject to NFL discipline if convicted. "I was disappointed that the charges weren't dropped," said Taylor's attorney, Edward Carhart. "I feel the state has chosen the wrong side to prosecute. Hopefully, the decision had nothing to do with the high profile nature of Sean Taylor." The charges stem from a June 1 incident in the West Perrine section of Miami during which Taylor purportedly assaulted three victims who he claimed stole two of his all-terrain vehicles. Miami-Dade police, to whom Taylor turned himself in June 4, had sought two assault charges, but when a third victim was found, the state's attorney office decided to consolidate the felony charges. Police accuse Taylor of pointing a gun at the victims, one of whom has been identified as Ryan Hill, and accomplice Charles Elwood Caughman of wielding a baseball bat. Caughman faces a felony assault charge in the case. A Miami-Dade police spokesman said the second phase of the incident, during which shots were supposedly fired at Taylor in retaliation, remains under investigation. Taylor passed a polygraph test administered last Thursday by the well-regarded Warren Holmes, but polygraph results are usually not admissible in court. Taylor, who hasn't spoken to the media since his Oct. 29 arrest for driving under the influence, wasn't available to comment yesterday. A Redskins spokesman declined to comment. Neither Taylor nor Carhart attended the arraignment, but they are required to appear before Miami-Dade County Circuit Court Judge Mary Barzee on July 12 to update her on discovery in the case. Trial is tentatively set for Sept. 12, the day after the Redskins open the season against the Chicago Bears. However, Carhart plans to ask Barzee to postpone the trial until next offseason in order not to further disrupt Taylor's football career. Taylor is expected to be on hand when the Redskins begin training camp at Redskin Park on Aug. 1. "Sean's a part of our family, and when he comes back, we'll welcome him with open arms," linebacker Marcus Washington said. Taylor, whom the Redskins claimed was the most researched draft pick in NFL history when they chose him fifth overall in 2004, has been as troubled off the field as he is talented on it. He has used three agents and three attorneys, been fined by the NFL several times and suspended by Redskins coach Joe Gibbs for a game in the wake of the DUI charges. Taylor was cleared of those charges this spring. A first alternate to the Pro Bowl as a rookie, Taylor greatly disappointed the Redskins by failing to show for the entire voluntary offseason program at Redskin Park. He also resisted Gibbs' attempts to reach him until June 9, when he was excused from the mandatory minicamp in order to focus on his legal situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 Originally posted by TK-IV II I http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1449312#post1449312 :doh: missed that...... however, having taken one before....I can tell you those ****s are pretty darn accuate..... and can make you squirm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigskinbauer Posted June 25, 2005 Author Share Posted June 25, 2005 wow this is pretty split, i will take taylors side we don't know that he is a bad person, we know nothing of him, i barely know his voice, he could sound like tyson for all i know. The report in the Washington post said that he was a family orriented guy that has done a lot of work with the community in donations and visits over the offseason. He wasn't a stupid kid according to his teachers at his private prep school. He gives a helping hand to most of his neighboors and it seems everyone he knows is more surprised than we are. The man doesn't like to talk to the media, hell art monk didn't like to talk to the media but obviously that doesn't make a man a goooooon. I just think that some of us(including me) jumped to the conclusion that he was a common thug. Some of us may wonder why he didn't take the police with him, seriously would we in his situation, he grew up in that area when he lived with his father, it was only 2 miles away. He couldn't call the police, i know this sounds very typical but he would be reffered to as a snitch. He went and tried to have a conversation. Now did he pull a gun? that is the question. He passed the lie detector test. the accusors are just people that played on his highschool football team and the people(who i assume shot up his house) that he assulted. Did he punch the guy i say yes but did he pull a gun. Taylor's word over these gangastas NO he did not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 Originally posted by Bigskinbauer The report in the Washington post said that he was a family orriented guy that has done a lot of work with the community in donations and visits over the offseason. He wasn't a stupid kid according to his teachers at his private prep school. He gives a helping hand to most of his neighboors and it seems everyone he knows is more surprised than we are. I think you're refering to the article from the Palm Beach Post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailSkinz1 Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 Originally posted by bubba9497 :doh: let's hear all the evidence before determining guilt but passing a lie detector test don't hurt his case Passing a non-State sponsored lie detector tests means absolutely nothing. It is not admissable and no one, other than the people in the room at the time, knows what questions were asked. The LD test is totally irrelevant. I think a lot of people formed an opinion of Michael Jackson before hearing the evidence and have formed opinions about many other people before hearing the evidence. I see no reason Sean Taylor should be treated differently. For us to speculate about one's guilt or innocent is harmless. Hail, H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailSkinz1 Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 Originally posted by ATLANTASKINSFAN He is guilty of being extremely stupid. At the very least. GO SKINS!!!!!:helmet: :helmet: That's exactly how I feel! That might not be worthy of jail time, but it does make you wonder. If Taylor wants to behave in this manner, then I'd rather not have him on the Redskins (as I've said before, he'd fit in much better with the Cowboys!). Hail, H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 I failed a lie detector with the Seattle PD, fellaz. I was being truthful and the two questions I tested 'deceptive' on were two of the easiest ones they could have done background investigation to confirm. The Green River Killer, Gary Ridgway, passed a lie detector test( I think two) and an innocent witness failed one. Now, I don't think Sean is a psychopath. If he passed, it means little, but he's not a trained spy or psychopath. Failing means nothing. BUt passing? It might mean something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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