ntotoro Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Originally posted by brooksfb Can the Skins use that 9M in other places? If not, Danny Boy is the only one who benefits. It's not his fault, so don't blame him. I don't think the NFLPA will allow teams to renegotiate contracts to move some money up-front in the event that a team gains more cap space. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooksfb Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Originally posted by Grumpy Vet 6/1/05 Taylor allegedly is involved in a shooting in Florida 6/4/05 Taylor turns himself in to Miami-Dade Police 6/5/05 Taylor still not returning Gibbs calls 6/5/05 Taylor released on 16K bond 6/7/05 Taylor goes back to the scene looking for ATVs 6/24/05 Taylor tells judge, " I'm Sean Taylor b!atch." 6/25/05 Gibbs refuses to accept collect call from Florida State Corrections Institute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamingwolf Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 where do you figure 11 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVSkins79 Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 I wonder if he thinks those two ATVs were really worth $9 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 At least we could get some cap relief out of it. But I'm sticking to my theory that Taylor will not get any jail time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Vet Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Originally posted by dreamingwolf where do you figure 11 games? You are correct - nice catch. I was originally thinking 8 home games and 3 preseason. So - to save face will you guys grant me 8 home games, 2 preseason games and 1 playoff game so I don't have to re-do my numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamingwolf Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 sure I like the sound of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Just 1 home playoff game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatmeworry Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Originally posted by ntotoro The funny thing in all this? Rosenhaus was holding him in Florida to get him a new contract with more money and there's a strong possibility he's gonna' wind up losing money. Hope Rosenhaus recognizes the irony in all this. Nick Ten percent agent's commission (i'm guessing the fee) of minus $9 million is minus $900,000. Rosenhaus is worth every penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Vet Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Originally posted by whatmeworry Ten percent agent's commission (i'm guessing the fee) of minus $9 million is minus $900,000. Rosenhaus is worth every penny. ....a pathetic $300K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggins44 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Originally posted by Grumpy Vet So we have 92,000 fans, half drinking an average of 4 beers at 11 games per season at $7 a piece. $14,168,000 gross on beer for games. This does not include draft day, concerts, playoffs or any other special events. Not bad - but I'm sure the net profit on alcohol is very low......The Danny probably does not get a bulk discount on bottles.....poor guy....I feel bad for him. Think about this...a case of Miller Lite or Bud will run around $12-13. So for what is spent in 2 beers would be a case at a grocery store. So a case at the stadium would be $168. Regardless is gets a bulk discount or not...that is a pretty good chunk of change. Few years ago, I talked to a vendor at the Michelob golf tourney. The brewery is right in Williamsburg, next to the golf course. Beer was like $6. He told me the PGA sets the price of beer and other foods. Not sure if the NFL has a say in the price of concessions and if they even get a cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsMarchingBand Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 he is not going to get convicted. UNLESSS they have a strong innocecnt bystander witness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinker Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Originally posted by ntotoro The funny thing in all this? Rosenhaus was holding him in Florida to get him a new contract with more money and there's a strong possibility he's gonna' wind up losing money. Hope Rosenhaus recognizes the irony in all this. Nick I really doubt that Rosenhaus was holding him out for a new contract. I bet Rosenhaus doesn't get his phone calls returned either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Originally posted by Grumpy Vet Thank you sir....to be fair....I had to truncate it more than I really wanted.....I had a couple beers - did some research and came up w/ this: 4/24/04 Skins draft Taylor 4/26/04 Taylor fires agent Rosenhaus 6/5/04 Taylor misses practice b/c of shaving cream incident 7/21/04 Taylor hires agents Mato and Moorad 7/24/04 Taylor fined $25K for missing Rookie Symposium b/c of “apartment eviction” 7/27/04 Taylor signs rookie contract w/ Skins – heavily performance based 8/3/04 Taylor Rehires Rosenhaus 9/3/04 Taylor leads NFL in preseason w/ 3 INTs & 1 TD 10/28/04 Taylor arrested for DUI 10/31/04 Taylor Suspended for game vs. Packers 11/14/04 Taylor allegedly spits on Houzawatzit – 8 tackles – 1 INT 11/21/04 Taylor is fined $10K fine for an elbow to TO’s head / 15 yards 11/28/04 Taylor penalized 15 yards - unnecessary roughness vs Pittsburgh – 9 tackles 12/5/04 Taylor fined $7,500 for hitting Manning / 15 yards 12/7/04 Taylor is fined $5,000 for wearing red socks 12/14/04 Taylor is fined $5,000 for wearing red socks 12/26/04 Taylor produces 6 Solo Tackles & 1 Forced Fumble vs. Cowboys 1/2/05 Taylor’s 1st season = 76 tackles (59 solo), 2 forced fumbles, 4 INTS 4/12/05 Taylor is a no-show for Voluntary workouts 5/17/05 Taylor is the only unexcused Redskin for voluntary practices 6/1/05 Taylor allegedly is involved in a shooting in Florida 6/4/05 Taylor turns himself in to Miami-Dade Police 6/5/05 Taylor still not returning Gibbs calls It was interesting to do.....maybe spent an hour or two on Google. I think graphically it shows that it has been a year of highs and lows......definitely busy... I'm convinced drinking beer increases one's IQ...here's the proof. Thank you, GV:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Vet Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Originally posted by riggins44 Think about this...a case of Miller Lite or Bud will run around $12-13. So for what is spent in 2 beers would be a case at a grocery store. So a case at the stadium would be $168. Regardless is gets a bulk discount or not...that is a pretty good chunk of change. Few years ago, I talked to a vendor at the Michelob golf tourney. The brewery is right in Williamsburg, next to the golf course. Beer was like $6. He told me the PGA sets the price of beer and other foods. Not sure if the NFL has a say in the price of concessions and if they even get a cut. So what you are saying is that Snyder is working on slim margins.....like - say an American Car Dealership? Kidding of course.....I'm sure Snyder, as good a businessman as he is, has Miller and Bud down to ridiculous prices for bulk discounts w/ extended terms and has them financing his inventory.......His margins must be insane. No question his costs are more appreciable than what I'm used to dealing w/.....but I don't get those types of margins. Must be good to be the king......I'll keep thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Vet Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Originally posted by tr1 I'm convinced drinking beer increases one's IQ...here's the proof. Thank you, GV:D My pleasure......If what you say is true - I'm going to go out in the thunderstorm and wait for my MENSA application to arrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Originally posted by Grumpy Vet My pleasure......If what you say is true - I'm going to go out in the thunderstorm and wait for my MENSA application to arrive. All of these great posts tonight...you're rapidly approaching 'hero' status... After all of the ST stuff this weekend, it's a bit like a hangover...the light-tone on a bad situation is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVSkins79 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Originally posted by Grumpy Vet Quick math = Skins don't pay ST the $9 mil Everyone attending a Skins home game during the 2006 season gets their first beer for free courtesy of ST....at each and every home game this year...including preseason. .....and the remaining $2 mil goes to buying a real jumbotron.....or maybe a charity - Redskins against Guns...... $9 mil = 90K fans x $7 beer x 11 games = $7 mil + $2 mil jumbotron/charity.... That's a lot of money... I know your formula is just for fun, but it's hard to imagine 90,000 people in one stadium drinking beer. I wonder how many would actually accept a free beer. Not everyone drinks, and not everyone who drinks likes beer, and a lot of spectators at games are under the age of 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAsBeachBoy Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Why couldn't Sean just get busted with reefer like normal football players... Geeze! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 The difference between Winslow and Taylor is that Winslow's default occurred pursuant to arguably sympathetic circumstances, since he almost, you know, died. how can anyone read that, and still consider them a legit news source :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Originally posted by ntotoro It's not his fault, so don't blame him. I don't think the NFLPA will allow teams to renegotiate contracts to move some money up-front in the event that a team gains more cap space. Nick I absolutely guarantee you there are ways to move cap hits from future years into this year. Example: Take a player who's carrying a lot of dead money. Let him renegotiate his contract into a shorter one (accelerates the dead money faster) and gives him a roster bonus or bigger salary this year. Now, will we do that? Face it: We won't know how this works out 'till we hear the verdict, which may not be 'till next year (barring plea bargains). Don't count Danny's money, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dent19 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 how much will Drew lose in the deal......how bad will he have to beg Dan just to keep him on the team?:puke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Jumbo Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Originally posted by Grumpy Vet 7/24/04 Taylor fined $25K for missing Rookie Symposium b/c of “apartment eviction” 11/21/04 Taylor is fined $10K fine for an elbow to TO’s head / 15 yards 12/5/04 Taylor fined $7,500 for hitting Manning / 15 yards 12/7/04 Taylor is fined $5,000 for wearing red socks 12/14/04 Taylor is fined $5,000 for wearing red socks Must be nice to lose $52,500 (in less than a 5 month period) in fines to the league and not bat an eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschlesi Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Do you think Drew Rosenhaus was the one to steal those ATVs??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamshatterer Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Originally posted by brooksfb Can the Skins use that 9M in other places? If not, Danny Boy is the only one who benefits. He can use it towards siging bonuses too lure players here. OR redo contracts for current players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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