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It isn't nonsense that they have a good spine though to be fair. That's all I've ever said. Maybe you're making more of that than I am... Maybe they are a bit mentally weak I dunno. They definitely have some pretty inconsistent players. Ali has taken a pretty big step back this year and Son goes from a world beater to being completely ineffective on a weekly basis. Alderweireld obviously a massive loss the past month or so too as was Eriksen today. Unreal how little creativity they had without him. Lack of strength in depth has been a problem with them for years. They have some very tough fixtures coming up and could well fall off the pace with the way they are going. Need everyone to get fit and quick.

In what scenario that could be related to Coutinho would you wait 6 months? Coutinho wasn't given the option to go last summer but would've if Liverpool had made him available. Instead it seems he needed to do another few months of pounding the table behind the scenes till he got his way. Liverpool far more comfortable in the knowledge that they have the quality to finish top 4 with Salah providing the attacking threat and VVD to shore up the defense (an attempt at signing a GK to come in Jan too surely). Those were questions that still needed answering last summer. Makes sense for all parties to get it done now imo.

It does though. If someone said you can improve your lifestyle and career in virtually every way possible now or in 6 months time what would you choose? I don't see any logic whatsoever to waiting another 6 months for Barca or Coutinho. Liverpool are still developing tbf and aren't winning anything this season.

More money, more trophies, better lifesfyle, more glamorous club, better league, better teammates etc. He gains a few things tbf.

Woah, to call that a reach would be an understatement

GHH in unable to admit to getting something wrong shocker!

I think 160 mill is crazy money tbh. For me, Coutinho is a brilliant player but not properly elite,top tier. When you think Liverpool paid 8 mill (?) for him it's actually some business. I don't blame Coutinho at all either. There's no loyalty in football any more and exactly like Van Dijk did already this season, he's forced a move that gives him a better wage and a far better chance of winning trophies. When Barca or Real come calling it's a matter of when not if.

Dunno why you have to undermine me with every single post but anyway that's besides the point... I addressed why Sunderland is a fine move for him but you deleted that from what you quoted to suit your point. The football they play isn't even that bad at all either.

Jesse Lingard has to be on PEDs. Only explanation.

Really? I don't think the benefit of proper competitive football playing at a decent standard can be underestimated. The Championship is a million miles tougher than the Youth Cup. Way more to be learned playing at that level. If you look at the UK and Ireland's best players at the moment. Kane, Vardy, Alli, Lallana, Delph, Stones, Coleman, Bale, Ramsey etc etc. They all have the same thing in common, learned a lot of their trade in the lower leagues. I don't think that's a coincidence. Even nowadays when young footballers are being thrown thousands of pounds at a stupidly young age I don't think putting them out of their comfort zone and letting them see first hand how things aren't that easy does no harm. Sunderland are a big club with high expectations. Seems a pretty great fit for a guy who's anticipated to be the next big thing at a club the size of Liverpool. Also the added bonus that he gets to work with someone like Chris Coleman again who clearly rates him highly and will give him ample opportunities.

75 mill is mental but then again 40 mill for Salah now looks like the bargain of the century. It's all relative to how the player performs really. If he helps fix that defense he'll be worth every penny. Massively important signing for Liverpool. Still need a few more in but big step in the right direction.

Battle of the limp-wristed keepers!

Are Arsenal - Liverpool games ever not brilliant? What a game.

The warmth on this thread really knows no boundaries. Thanks

The shame

City played nowhere near their best and still were utterly dominant. Second year in a row there's gonna be no title race.

Lukaku with two assists at the wrong end Otamendi is lethal from set pieces. Great finish.

Bit tempted to not bother after you just told me to "**** off" () but anyway....no need. You should play your best team possible in derby games, no excuses. These games are too important for that. Going against an Everton team with one of the worst defences I've ever seen and with Salah, Coutinho and Firmino all bang in form you won't get a better chance to put up a cricket score against them. Criminal not taking advantage of that. He treated Everton like the mid-table team they currently are and showed no respect to the rivalry really. I hate that. You had enough chances to win the game anyway (and deserved to) but Klopp took that risk by omitting two of his best goalscorers. He has to take some blame. And I have no idea how i'm not being consistent in my thought process tbh. I'm saying nothing crazy here at all once again yet I seem to rile people up regardless. If anything I'm incredibly consistent

Thin skinned or what. ****ing hell. I just said you could've won that 3 or 4-0... I'm out of here till the rage passes.

Whether you think it's soft or not it's still an incredible stupid risk for Lovren to take. Brainless stuff. Klopp has made a right mess of this. Everton lining up with one of the worst defenses I've ever seen in this league and he rests two of his best attacking players and takes another one off with half an hour left. This should've been a straightforward 3 or 4-0 win for Liverpool.

That Everton back 4 is incredibly bad.

Lads, in all fairness. You two are the ones who keep bringing it up now. I have no idea why its after getting brought up again but that isn't my fault. I think both of you are somehow finding a way to get outraged by a point you actually agree with. I don't get it at all. If Liverpool some day win the league with Mignolet, any of their current CB's and Jordan Henderson all starting I'll admit I got something wrong. I'm not worried..

When did I say everyone else's is? Said they were better than Liverpool's. I'm sticking by that.

So you think the spine is good enough now or what? I can't keep up

City Spurs Chelsea Man Utd Liverpool Arsenal How the top 6 ranks imo.