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This kind of rational thinking isn't allowed on here I'm afraid. The pitchforks will be out for you soon too. At the end of the day, Lovren played the ball so the correct decision was 100% made there. Kane couldn't have been offside by the rules of the game. I do think the actual penalty decision (Karius' foul) was dubious enough. Kane was definitely looking for the contact. Not a straightforward call by any means though.

I've never known such a hostile thread where people takes themselves so seriously I've said absolutely nothing outrageous here. If I have please point out what it is. You're Liverpool fans so obviously you have an agenda. Maybe take a deep breath, read over my posts again and realise what I'm saying is actually completely fair. If it wasn't then I wouldn't have every pundit under the sun agreeing with me I reckon.

Dunno what world you're living in but getting called a **** is generally said to be an insult. Note how the petty insults only come from one side of the argument too (not mine). As always you're both overreacting and getting annoyed over very little. I said Liverpool were unfortunate to have all the decisions go against them but apparently that somehow feeds to my "agenda". I give up

Since the neutrals are agreeing with me maybe ye should take a look at yourselves I dunno what part of me saying Liverpool were unlucky to concede all the decision they did feeds to my apparent agenda but anyway....you guys always read what you want to read I suppose. Anyway I waste far too much energy defending myself from insults on here. I'll leave ye at it for the time being and enjoy my Sunday night!

You look at it here (the linesmans view) and it looks a blatant pen. Then you look at it from this view at it looks awfully harsh. Just one of those calls. Very tough to say for certain. Liverpool very unfortunate to come out the worse in all the big ones though for sure.

The linesman said the first pen was offside if Lovren didn't play it. The ref (who had the better view of it) correctly said that Lovren did play it. For the second penalty the linesman (who had the better view of it) said it was a pen. I thought it was harsh enough myself but I can see why he gave it. There isn't an exact formula between who gives the decision. The ref has the final say but surely it's whoever see's it best that should call it which is exactly what happened. Don't see the issue myself. Lovely words as always! Hopefully makes you feel better about yourself

How do you come to that conclusion? They both agreed that both were pens. Dermot Gallagher (Ex Prem Referee) also brought on to the show and said every decision was spot on. I said in my first post that I thought they were close calls. Most days Spurs probably don't get them all to go there way but today they did. It is what it is. A draw was a fair result overall. Dunno why I'm the villain here.

Both said Spurs deserved a draw, both said Lovren played the ball for the first penalty so wasn't offside.

Carragher and Souness on Sky are agreeing with me for the record!

God how I love how amicable this thread is.

Don't think I said anything wrong..

You can't be offside when it was last played by a Liverpool player though. Whether it was a dive or not is a close call though. I'd like to see it again. Think a draw was fair overall. Think Spurs shaded it but a few close calls went their way tbf. Great game.

Could be 2 or 3 because of Sanchez's mistakes! He's all over the shop in and out of possession imo. Looks very nervous.

Liverpool looking pretty secure at the back whereas Spurs are at sixes and sevens. They badly need Alderweireld back. Sanchez having a proper mare.

Think the last time Man Utd played a decent team away from home without Matic and Herrera starting was when they played Arsenal and conceded about 25 good chances. Same again today, look absolutely wide open. Great game.

VAR is a complete abortion of a system isn't it. Literally going to ruin football. I don't want to be celebrating a goal and have it in the back of my mind that it could get disallowed in two minutes. Awful.

Yep it's not a tricky formula. The rose, 1919 and Leeds United/LUFC need inclusion, keep it nice and simple and job done. To be fair I always liked the shield we've been using the last 20 odd years even if it only really brings back horrendous memories.

Literally never a dull day supporting Leeds. New crest an absolute monstrosity, making headline news kinda bad. 50k have signed a petition to change it in a few hours. https://www.change.org/p/andrea-radrizzani-stop-lufc-from-implementing-the-leeds-salute-crest Absolutely zero chance that crest is staying. The fans just won't let it happen thank god. Yeah I was thinking he'd gone a bit quiet recently. Felt like he was always scoring up till then. I liked him in the brief opportunities he got last season for us to be honest. Limited like, but there's talent there. Definitely an above average player in League 1 and probably serviceable in the Championship.

Do you rate Marcus Antonsson?

It isn't nonsense that they have a good spine though to be fair. That's all I've ever said. Maybe you're making more of that than I am... Maybe they are a bit mentally weak I dunno. They definitely have some pretty inconsistent players. Ali has taken a pretty big step back this year and Son goes from a world beater to being completely ineffective on a weekly basis. Alderweireld obviously a massive loss the past month or so too as was Eriksen today. Unreal how little creativity they had without him. Lack of strength in depth has been a problem with them for years. They have some very tough fixtures coming up and could well fall off the pace with the way they are going. Need everyone to get fit and quick.

In what scenario that could be related to Coutinho would you wait 6 months? Coutinho wasn't given the option to go last summer but would've if Liverpool had made him available. Instead it seems he needed to do another few months of pounding the table behind the scenes till he got his way. Liverpool far more comfortable in the knowledge that they have the quality to finish top 4 with Salah providing the attacking threat and VVD to shore up the defense (an attempt at signing a GK to come in Jan too surely). Those were questions that still needed answering last summer. Makes sense for all parties to get it done now imo.

It does though. If someone said you can improve your lifestyle and career in virtually every way possible now or in 6 months time what would you choose? I don't see any logic whatsoever to waiting another 6 months for Barca or Coutinho. Liverpool are still developing tbf and aren't winning anything this season.

More money, more trophies, better lifesfyle, more glamorous club, better league, better teammates etc. He gains a few things tbf.

Woah, to call that a reach would be an understatement

GHH in unable to admit to getting something wrong shocker!