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The best deal for Virginia taxpayers would be to not have us pay for Dan Snyder's miserable new stadium. Let St. Louis or San Diego deal with this jackwagon.
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It'll be interesting to see if any of this deposition testimony gets publicly released.
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Please don't tell me that some of you are tempted to try and kick that football that Lucy is holding. How many times have we been through this?
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Channel 7 isn't going anywhere. Given how few locals seem to care much about the Commanders (this is a Nationals/Capitals town, now), I'd say they need Channel 7 onsite a lot more than Channel 7 needs them. You just have to put up with the jerkish behavior until the equation changes. Not defending the reporter --to be honest, I haven't watched a local sports news segment here in probably 15 years--but drawing attention to it on Twitter (which reaches far more people) is just dumb. Mr. McKinsey & Co. should know better.
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This is exactly it. It's Public Relations 101. All Wright did was ensure that everyone watched this silly clip. Maybe that was his goal? There's nothing to be gained by picking fights with the local media. You know how you get rid of stuff like this? Start winning some games. The local media will turn into lapdogs really quickly if that happens.
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Based on the history of organized gambling in America, this could actually be a true statement.
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I wonder if the Dramatically Upgraded stadium includes working plumbing and intact safety rails.
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Heaven forfend that one should have to merely watch football at a football stadium. Given the on-the-field product lately, however...
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And you just know that's exactly what'll happen here if the leagues decides to "punish" Snyder.
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Back when I was younger and child-free, I remember not going to training camp in Ashburn because I didn't want to deal with the traffic and crowds. It's surreal to see no one there.
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This is EXACTLY where I'm at. I care very much that something I treasured as a young man has been despoiled by Snyder. However, I won't actively root against his current players or coaches. It's not their fault. But neither will I root for them, or even care that much about what they do. I come here to read/comment about the ownership situation, and maybe talk about the old days when they come up. If he goes, I'll reconsider.
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That's entirely possible. I'm not sure which it is. It could even be that I'm just getting older and moving on. I can say, however, that the systemic problems with the NFL aren't helping.
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This bears highlighting. Agreed 100%. I'm really over Dan Snyder and have zero interest in supporting or watching the Commanders as long as he owns them. Ten years ago, however, I would still have watched other games and followed the league generally. Now, I have very little interest, for all the reasons you list. That's not a commentary on the players or coaches, either. They're all amazing. The NFL has tinkered too much with what was a very good thing, and it's also gone too far to cater to the corporate high-rollers. I still like to think of it as the "blue collar sport", but that's a distant memory, now.
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The fan relationship has been slowly eroding for years. I date the real decline to the RG3 debacle. That one brief glimmer of hope in 2012 brought the enthusiasm back in a way I hadn't seen since the early '90s, but the crushing nature of the way it ended--plus the fallout with Kirk, Bruce, Jay and the rest--was a clear turning point. Before 2012, people loathed Dan but there was still a lot of residual love for the organization. After 2012, that's been changing year by year. If Dan was a "lovable loser", I think the fan support would still be strong. If he was a "winning weasel", I'm not sure. I suspect there'd be a lot more people (here and elsewhere) attempt to excuse the inexcusable. For all I know, I'd be one of them, though I hate to admit that.
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I suspect the value of the TV market is the biggest factor. Since the teams have relatively limited avenues for individualized revenue streams, with TV and merch profits shared equally, it might be that the valuations are properly flatter top to bottom than they'd otherwise be.
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Speaking just for myself, I don't give two bits about the product on the field anymore as long as Snyder is the owner. 22 years of this. I can't take any more of it. He's the one who hurts the football product, pure and simple. That and his wretchedness are enough for me to tune out. I stick around here mostly just to read and comment on the Snyder chronicles.
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It's a nice thought, and I felt that way for a long time. I just don't see it happening unless Dan's scandal gets so big or explosive as to threaten the league at large. Racism would do it, and that's probably what got Richardson out. Otherwise, I see the owners as not wanting to get too involved.
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Danny Boy's going to spend all his stadium fund on white-shoe attorneys. 😄
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Stan Kroenke already did that in Los Angeles, and it's working out very well. The current state of affairs seems to be that owners are willing to build out "football destination" developments in wealthy primary markets where they don't need to ask for public money to make the numbers work out the way they want. The rest of the development ends up being at least as profitable than the concrete bowl at the center of it. They're actually better off not letting the government get involved in the financing, since they have more control over the profits and outcomes. It's secondary markets like Buffalo and St. Louis that are expected to be the chumps that pay the tab for their "NFL Experience", sort of like the monorail huckster in that episode of "The Simpsons." DC is a primary market. The money here is outrageous, and the right development in the right place could generate vast oceans of profit beyond providing a place for the football to happen. Right now, it's iffy whether Snyder could even get land-use permission from local governments, let alone public financing. Nobody in this area wants to be associated with his foul odor. However, I don't think that fact will drive the other owners to vote him out. The precedent and legal complications are too risky as balanced against the relatively low impact of Dan's continued stinkitude on other franchises and the league overall. It's a big deal to *us*, but it's a minor news story to fans in most of the rest of the country, even now. The Commanders have truly become the "Washington Generals"--the patsy opposition no one pays much attention to. If racism allegations came out, then they'd cut him loose in a heartbeat, but sexist behavior doesn't seem to generate the same level of controversy or risk (and I'm not EVEN going to wade into offering an opinion about that outside the Stadium...)
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The only way I see the other owners getting rid of Dan is if he impacts their own bottom lines significantly. They may not like the DC market being stuck with a zombie franchise with no support, but it doesn't have a huge impact on their own franchises unless widespread support for the league drops.
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Here is a summary explaining the congressional subpoena process. It's based on a newspaper article that discusses it in the context of political stuff we don't get into here, but the procedural points are relevant to this topic. In short: The Supreme Court has upheld Congress' power to issue subpoenas for "legitimate legislative purposes." This doesn't include law enforcement or political gain. A majority of either House can vote someone as in contempt of Congress for defying a subpoena. The sergeant-at-arms can arrest and detain those found in contempt of Congress, but this hasn't been done in almost a century. Congress can ask the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia to bring criminal charges against a witness who refuses to appear. Doubtful anything happens to Dan if he ignores this, as it would take a bigger group than just this committee to bring forth any consequences.
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So, when I imagined Dan playing the new "Commander in Chief" by walking around in a fake naval uniform like L. Ron Hubbard, I never thought he'd take it all the way by floating around on his boat in perpetuity to evade the law just like Mr. Scientology.
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