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You totally missed my point. You claimed that the Ravens don't need a stud WR because of the offense they run. Their draft history says otherwise. They would do it again because they just traded their best receiver.
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If the Ravens didn't feel they needed a stud at WR then why did they use their first round picks on WRs 2 of the past 3 years? Regardless of the offense they are running the Ravens obviously have and have had a big need for a stud receiver. Of course they knew they needed help at WR before this draft started. The Hollywood Brown trade was a done deal before the draft started. He was in Arizona on draft night because he knew he had been traded there, it just had not been announced. . FYI I am only using the Ravens because they were the team that selected the player I feel Washington should have taken.
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Yeah I think we are done here. You made some solid points, as did I. We'll find out in a few years, right now these are just opinions. I'm betting on the Ravens being smarter than the Commanders. They were the team with the bigger WR need but instead went for the better player instead of drafting a WR to fill an immediate need.
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Yeah I had meant to address the additional picks involved, that's a solid point. And we will see. I recall the Redskins passing on JJ Watt. Who did they get in return? Ryan Kerrigan, a solid player but obviously no Watt, and other players with the picks that never panned out. Now Sam Howell could turn out to be a viable starter, that's certainly possible. However history shows they will be lucky if he turns into Nate Sudfeld. Robinson and Turner? Hard to say, just saying players like them are not hard to find.
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You say they have invested little in the offense. I'd say Carson Wentz is a pretty big investment. I'm not taking the "we should invest in offense, no we should invest in defense" argument. I'm simply saying passing over higher rated prospects, regardless of if they play on offense or defense, to fill an immediate need because you are desperate to win a few more games next year is not a sound philosophy.
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I've already explained how a player like Hamilton will help the offense in terms of field position and time of possession. Sure they need to hold up their end and put the ball in the end zone. But sorry passing over a higher rated player to fill an immediate need is just not a sound way to build a roster long term. This has been proven over and over again.
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If you don't care what other people are saying then why should I care what you say? I'm only half kidding. Look it's very simple. Nobody said Kyle Hamilton was Sean Taylor. But virtually everyone had him rated much higher than Dotson. There is no arguing this point. Sure they could all be wrong, we all know this, but it's pretty clear that "I'm right and everyone else is wrong" is not a solid argument. Who cares if the invested picks in the defense and it didn't really work out? That's no reason to stop drafting potential impact defensive players. If the Lions had taken that approach they would have passed on Calvin Johnson because all their other first round WR picks didn't pan out.
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Again my point was a player like Hamilton could help improve on the team's biggest weakness, getting off the field on 3rd and 7 which would be a huge impact on the offense. Sure if the offense scores more the other team will become one dimensional and the defense can pin their ears back. But at what point in the game? Surely not in the first half when teams do not totally abandon their game plan down 17-7. Hamilton's presence would have an affect from the first play to the last. This defense has been overrated for several years now, that should be obvious. They rarely create turnovers giving the offense a short field, they allow long drives that forces Washington to start with poor field position. So many predict that this guy could be a star and a real game changer, not too many are saying that about the guy Washington picked. At least not at the same level. We all know they could be wrong but at this point in time this is all we have to go on. When you pass over higher rated players, and virtually everyone had Hamilton rated higher than Jahan Dotson, to fill a need you are doing it wrong.
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No he said he got that feedback when talking with the teams. Would you mind addressing my points about Hamilton could in fact help the offense in the post you quoted but omitted that part
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I rarely do for the reasons I just stated. If he really likes TH a lot then why did he spend the previous two off seasons trying like crazy to replace him? I believe actions and not coach speak reveals the true feelings
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You really believe a coach when he says that? When have you ever heard a coach dog any player? His comments were coach speak, they mean nothing.
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The player and his agent said they were expecting the pick to be a round or 2 later. So there's that. What you are failing to consider is how this defense hindered their offense. Allowing teams to constantly convert 3rd downs not only gives the opponent more opportunities to score it keeps the Washington offense on the bench. Even if the team didn't score they were able to flip the field and Washington was constantly starting with bad field position. This defense also rarely created short fields for the offense with turnovers. If you are going to argue that Hamilton does not possess the ability (potentially) to change this, and in the process HELP the offense, well I'll just respectfully disagree.
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Of course they need Hamilton. Perhaps the biggest issue with this team, outside of the QB, was the inability to get off the field on 3rd and 7. It's a huge problem that has been going on for a few seasons now. So they passed on a player who has the real potential to be an impact player, reached 1-2 rounds to fill a need they created for themselves at DT when that was a position of strength, and drafted for the quick fix by filling immediate needs instead of taking the best player as the successful teams do for the most part. The only pick that appeared to be for the future was the QB. They needed a developmental QB for sure but the question has to be asked: How many 5th round QBs ever turn into the real answer at QB? The best they can hope for realistically is they drafted another Nate Sudfeld.
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Well if DeCosta is unproven then what is RR and his group? The best players on this team are still players that were here when he arrived. We'll see in a few years which team has the better roster, I like my chances.
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I don't want to come off as too negative. I don't want to curb the enthusiasm of those who are optimistic and I fully understand all of this is guesswork and we won't know for several years how this draft will turn out. But I see a team whose entire offseason reeks of desperation, starting with the Wentz trade and continuing through the draft.. The first pick should have been Hamilton IMO, instead they had a lot of reaches on upper classmen who they think will come in and contribute right away instead of taking the best players regardless of position and age. They do not appear interested in developing talent, Ron hears the clock ticking and is looking for quick fixes instead of building the roster for the long term. Hamilton has a chance to be a star and I don't see that with any of the Commanders' picks. I also trust the Ravens front office over Washington. They didn't draft for need, they were set at safety, but throughout the draft they took far better players by going BPA in most people's opinion than Washington did.
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That was one of the weirdest things I've seen in a while. He was acting as if this was his Hall of Fame induction speech. What a complete clown. From the Wentz trade through the draft the offseason just smells of RR's desperation to win a few more games in 2022 as opposed to any long term thinking.
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I don't know how you can defend what they are doing at DT. They went for this being a real strength to having to reach 2 rounds (by the player's own admission) to try to fill a void they created for themselves instead of drafting other positions of need or, here's a wild thought, just taking the best player available like the good teams do.
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So to be clear the posts we have all seen from you, which came across as defending this man, was based on your own personal experience with him where he was nice to you? Surely you can see why you are getting so much push back, being nice to an employee's son does not mean you are not still a terrible human being. -
I heard the Sheehan podcast with Neil. Just as I had suspected it is hard to believe that Friedman had access to such information. So I'm back to believing this will never happen and will always wonder why a league would keep a member who is so bad for their image.
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I don't find all of this exhausting at all, I find it exhilarating. I mean for the first time in a generation we have hope. The involvement of Congress changed everything, without them this story had already been dealt with and dismissed by the league. Even if they don't do anything else, such as subpoena the key players, what they have revealed in their investigation is pretty damning
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Oh I could never do that, it would be like announcing that I am now a fan of Alabama Football and the LA Dodgers. The Ravens have the Maryland state flag at midfield, they are on TV every Sunday. It won't be too hard for me to swing that way. But the passion I once felt? That's probably gone forever unless Snyder is removed. If I am being honest I actually believe there is a good chance. There was discussion of owners turning on this little prick months ago, and that was before this new charge (again with receipts) of stealing from the other owners. I believe this changes things dramatically, but like everyone else I've been reluctant to post this as I can't afford to get my hopes up.
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I've been a Red Sox fan longer than I was a Redskins fan. So I must correct you. The Sox were never losers for decades. They were good but choked in the end of the year or in the playoffs. But you can't choke if you weren't in the position to go from good to out. And for the vast majority of my life they had good records, they were never the Browns or the Orioles now.
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A ploy by whom? The witness came with receipts, I do believe it is the job of Congress to get to the bottom of all of this. I pray Dan Snyder is called to testify. Knowing how bad he is at public speaking this will be OJ Bronco level of interest for me.
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Remember that report during the Super Bowl where it was said that for the first time there is active discussion among the owners on what to do with Snyder? Well that was then, I have to think with all this other news since that time the conversation got more interesting.
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I don't think it's a stretch to assume that literally any new owner will be an improvement. We have many years of data to support the theory that the team will never win with Dan Snyder. We aren't looking for a quick fix, fans are in it for the long haul. And there is no doubt long term it would be best for the team's future that a new owner is in place. Not sure if this is a shot at me or not but I won't apologize for being OFF this team as long as these creatures own it.
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